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AIBU?

To think that as a civilised, animal loving society, we need to do something about this.

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Piggyleroux · 02/12/2011 15:40

I want to start a campaign. This is really getting to me and I am struggling to hold back the tears.

I posted some time ago about my neighbours staffie getting into my garden. He is a big, unneutered boy and he was intimidating my elderly JRT bitch. This has now been resolved and me and neighbours remain on good terms.

They bought another SBT at the weekend and brought her in to show us last night. My neighbour said they are going to mate her with their other SBT.

I told her that I thought this was a bad idea because the rescue centres are full to bursting with unwanted and abused SBT's. She said that they bought a bitch specifically because they would like pups but she said that she saw my point and would discuss it with her husband before making a final desicion. I advised her to ring the RSPCA as well for information on breeding and the consequences of over breeding.

I then went on a few websites (All Dogs Matter, Battersea etc) and they are FULL of SBT's that are unwanted and may never be rehomed.

Why the fuck (sorry, but that's how I feel) don't you need a licence to breed dogs? Or cats? Or any other animal. I seriously hope my neighbours have a change of heart.

Rant over.

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FearOfFlying · 02/12/2011 16:28

YANBU. I hate backyard breeders, puppy farms the lot :(

Rescue dogs all the way for me.

Hope the neighbours come round to your pov.

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Popbiscuit · 02/12/2011 16:34

I'd ring the RSPCA myself. Couldn't they pay her a visit?

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issey6cats · 02/12/2011 17:55

sadly the people "who want a nice litter" of staffies cannot see the bigger picture of the hundreds of dogs who are in centers, wont get rehomed and the sheer number that are PTS each and every day, you and people like you who do care will be banging your head against a brick wall rottweillers and dobermans have gone through the same scenario and soon it will be another breed that becomes popular, gets overbred and the same thing will happen, a cause close to my heart that something can be done about hopefully is the appalling cruelty in the greyhound racing fraternity

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issey6cats · 02/12/2011 17:59

you could also point out to her that the mess of a litter of puppies, the cost of the stud dogs fees, feeding a pregnant bitch for nine weeks extra food and then, possible vets fees if she has to have an emergency ceaserian op, and feeding the pups for eight weeks (could be up to ten pups) and if a pedigree the fees for registering the pups with the kennell club, and possibly getting thier first vaccinations done, flea treatment and worm treatment for all of them before they go to new homes far outwhieghs any money they will make

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Joolyjoolyjoo · 02/12/2011 18:02

Piggy, I sooo feel your pain, but it is hopeless Sad I spend half my day every day trying to talk people out of "giving their bitch a litter" but all they can see is either a) cute puppies and b) pound signs ££££. To them, I'm just a boring kill-joy, trying to take all the fun out of their little foray into genetic mix and match for cash. I try to explain about the importance of knowing the breed, knowing the pitfalls, the benefit of experience within the breed, but they nod politely and don't listen to a word.

then, when the bitch needs an emergency C-section, it's somehow my fault!

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LambofGod · 02/12/2011 18:33

It's shocking isn't it. Sad

I investigated recently when someone was selling Presa Cana x Staffies on a local forum, there is no law against it.

Only licensed breeders can sell puppies in Sweden, but there's no such law in England.

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Piggyleroux · 02/12/2011 18:57

It's so shit. I'm going to go round there tomorrow with some stuff I've printed off the net about irresponsible breeding (if I can find anything). They'll probably thnk I'm a loon but what the hell

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mrsjay · 02/12/2011 19:01

I have nothing against staffies i wouldnt have 1 though not because of anything other than i dont like the look of them , im the same with boston terries etc etc , but i do think breeding of them should be stopped and all dogs unless you registered as a breeder SHOULD be neutured ,

Im looking for a dog and rescue centres are full of staffies or Xs its sad and bloody irresponsible ,

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ApocalypseCheeseToastie · 02/12/2011 19:02

TBH I think it should be illegal to own an unneutered male unless you're a registered breeder.

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mrsjay · 02/12/2011 19:03

issey around where i am its alot of huskies and huskies type dogs that are the new staffie there is complete arseholes walking around with huge huskies pulling on leads , look out for them in rescue centres anytime soon , it makes me quite angry .

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FearOfFlying · 02/12/2011 19:39

Yup, I keep seeing husky pups around here too - they're absolutely gorgeous aren't they? But quite a commitment to look after/exercise. People don't always realise.

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mrsjay · 02/12/2011 19:44

fearofflying they are beautiful some arnt huskies but they are sled dogs iyswim they do take alot of looking after and can be pully by nature and these numpties are buying them and no doubt breeding them ,

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LordOfTheFlies · 02/12/2011 19:45

A few years ago it was dalmations, after the 101 Dalmations film made them the must have.
Then there were ones born with the 'wrong' spots, splodges, colour wrong. They can be prone to deafness and need alot more excercise and care than people think.

Aaww but they are soo cute as puppies, so that gets overlooked Sad

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WhoIsThatMaskedWoman · 02/12/2011 19:45

Very difficult to make it illegal to breed unlicensed, but you could indeed make it illegal to sell a dog without a breeder's (or a rescue) licence. I think that would really help, by cutting down the profit motive (yes of course pups would still change hands for cash in pubs, but I'm sure it would make a difference.

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ApocalypseCheeseToastie · 02/12/2011 19:50

I dunno, if they targetted certain breeds ( it's pretty obvious if a dog has it's nads or not ) that are filling the pounds.

Simplistic I know, and no doubt unworkable, which is a damn shame since our pound's full of the poor mutts which are basically sat on death row.

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Piggyleroux · 02/12/2011 20:03

i think the 'huskys' your thinking of are actually Akitas. Another fighting type dog which are becoming more popular.

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Piggyleroux · 02/12/2011 20:06
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ShellyBoobs · 02/12/2011 20:28

YABU

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Pixel · 02/12/2011 20:38

I've seen loads of these 'huskies' around too and they are definitely not Akitas. Actually I think they are Malamutes.

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Pixel · 02/12/2011 20:41

Not that it makes much difference. They are still animals bred to run all day who get to drag their owner round the block a couple of times a day if they are lucky and never get let off the lead. I agree the rescue places will be full of them soon when the novelty wears off. Sad

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OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 02/12/2011 20:43

I have seen a couple of posts on FB lately.

'I am thinking of breeding my xxxxx'
'brilliant she is lovely'
'do you think you should? lots of unwanted dogs'
'Yeah but I have loads of people who say they want one'
'AND its GOOD for them to have puppies'
'no it isnt'
'YES IT IS and anyway its not you business, take no notice hun'
'ya my vets says its better for them to have puppies and I think its cruel not to'

And so on. In one case the dog was bred TWICE in one year.

WHen I was a veterinary nurse for the RSPCA I heard all that tripe. That was over 20 years ago. People still reeling out that crap about it being cruel not letting them have babies Hmm

Ok if you dont neuter and you dont bred you are likely to end up with a bitch with a pus filled uterus when they get to about 7.

SO NEUTER you bloody dogs.

I had to pick up mad little dog (inherited from my nan - the dog was insane and dementing and kept getting out) a couple of times from battersea. I didnt see a single dog that wasnt a staffie/staffie cross or a JRT.
I havent anything against staffies but I almost cheer when I see a dog (specially a x breed) that hasnt an ounce of staffie in it.

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OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 02/12/2011 20:45

Apparently there has been a huge surge in abandoned chihauhaus etc.

Not suprising. Dogs that dont know how to walk because they have been carried everywhere. An unsocialised, untrained Chi is not a pretty thing.

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reasonstobecheerful · 02/12/2011 21:14

The idea of anyone breeding any more staffies is horrendous. I absolutely love staffies. I read recently that Battersea Dogs' Home ALONE took in approaching 2.500 staffies last year. I have no idea how you can get through to these people, they always think they know best. Angry

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winterreise · 02/12/2011 21:19

Staffies are noted for eating their own pups. Tell your neighbour that.
They were bred to fight and they do. It's a breed I never trust near other dogs.

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saintmerryweather · 02/12/2011 21:21

TBH I think it should be illegal to own an unneutered male unless you're a registered breeder.

You cant show a neutered dog. my mum shows her male dog but doesnt want to breed, so that wouldnt really work

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