Gay Chinese welshspeakers

[PatFig]

WTF

What a waste of money

[donkeyderby]

The Daily Mail and the Con-Libs dredging up reasons why the equalities act will be watered down and people who suffer because they are minorities will suffer more. Don't believe this sort of shit

[0karen]

Sorry for the hijack

I was born in Wales but brought up in Cheshire and Manchester, last 5 years I lived in Wales. It bugs me how council jobs are advertised that you have to speak Welsh even though the job does not involve having to know Welsh, Admin Assistant for example

Having signs and printing in Walsh these days is a waste of money that could be put into education, health care, looking after the elderly as everyone knows English.

The equalities act needs sorting so some people can not tread all over other peoples rights, so weaken it or strengthen it, but as it stands it is wrong

[castleonthehill]

My mum (who is welsh but not a welsh speaker) was once paid to go and learn welsh as tv licensing need to provide a service in welsh. She enjoyed doing in as it was a chance for her to learn it but I don't think she ever used it.

[Unrulysun]

YABU - it's the Daily Mail - when they say 'you couldn't make it up' that's generally because they just did.

[BuzzLightBeer]

Why is it a bad thing that government officials in a country should speak the first language of that country?

If you don't look after your language you lose it, and you will be worse off for it. Its not a waste of money at all, Bread and Roses innit?

[MackerelOfFact]

What a hideous article, the subtext clearly being that ethnic minority/gay/lesbian/transgendered people don't deserve to be treated equally... and if they happen no to be, serves them right for 'choosing' to be gay, or 'choosing' to live in the country their ancestors emigrated to.

Classic Daily Mail. Disgusting.

[GandalfyCarawak]

If I phone the council or goverment, I always choose to speak in my own language in my own country. That's not asking a lot imo.

The Daily Mail makes a lot of money out of hating most people.

[MIFLAW]

These are some of the examples given in the article.

Officials at the Department for Culture, Media and Sport carrying out a so-called ?equality impact assessment? to ensure minority groups are able to take a full part in the Queen?s Diamond Jubilee celebrations next summer.

Government officials undertaking a study into India?s traditional caste system and its implications for discrimination in the UK.

The Department for Work and Pensions publishing a report into whether proposed changes to its scheme to help disabled people find jobs would have implications on a range of issues from religion to gender reassignment.

Kent Police issuing fresh equality guidance earlier this month, to comply with the Act, saying that transsexual staff are protected as soon as they start to dress, behave or live ?in the gender they identify with?.

Can anyone (e.g. the OP) explain to me why these are bad things to do?

[welshbyrd]

agreed with Gandalfycarawak - I live in wales, welsh is my first language, and if I phone a local authority, I speak my first language. I try and promote the welsh language in Wales, Its a terrible percentage that can not speak Welshles, yet are welsh, but thats a different thread all together

If there are spelling errors, poor grammer etc, I apologise in advance

[JemimaMop]

"I was born in Wales but brought up in Cheshire and Manchester, last 5 years I lived in Wales. It bugs me how council jobs are advertised that you have to speak Welsh even though the job does not involve having to know Welsh, Admin Assistant for example"

Why wouldn't an Admin Assistant need to speak Welsh? If correspondance to and from the council was in Welsh then it would bve fairly useful for an admin assistant to be able to understand it don't you think?

Oh, and many of the elderly that you talk about looking after are first language Welsh and find it increasingly difficult to communicate in English as they get older and/or ill. Therefore bilingualism is very important when providing care for them.

[poppyknot]

Do they manage a dig at the BBC in the same artcle?

[Shewhoshallnotbenamed]

Government officials undertaking a study into India?s traditional caste system and its implications for discrimination in the UK.

How is that a bad thing?

Daily Mail - brilliant for lining the cage of a hamster.

[MIFLAW]

As long as the hamster's illiterate.

Last thing you want is a fascist hamster.

[ISNT]

What a rubbish article.

[pushmepullyou]

If you read the article and mentally substitute the words 'minority groups' for the specific groups mentioned then I don't really see a problem with the studies quoted.

I am a consultant, although not in this field. I suspect most of the studies have focussed on a wide range of minorities for whom the specific issues being covered are more or less relevant and the DM has picked out the groups for whom each study is least rather than most relevant in order to mock the legislation.

[TheVisitor]

Better for lining a cat's litter tray with, at least the cat can't see it before it shits on it.

[Shewhoshallnotbenamed]

Genuine LOL @ MIFLAW

and a Guffaw for good measure

[Shewhoshallnotbenamed]

I do love a good DM bashing :)

[BuzzLightBeer]

Hamsters are facist enough really. Neo-nazis of the rodent world, they are.

[deepheat]

Oh come on. Its the Daily Mail ffs. You only need to read the text box at the bottom of the article to see that the headline is the usual misleading scare-mongering shite that you expect from that rag.

pushmepullyou's second para above is actually pretty much bang on the mark.

OP If you don't want government to address inequality issues then please ensure that you never choose to complain about institutionalised racism, sexism, disability discrimination etc.

[MIFLAW]

One day we will storm the Daily Mail offices and find nothing but hamsters running over keyboards.

[Anniegetyourgun]

It's amazing how sticking "so-called" in front of a phrase can be taken to instantly devalue the subject. Consider the difference between:

DCMS are carrying out an equality impact assessment (= thing the government is doing)

DCMS are carrying out an "equality impact assessment" (= thing the government says it's doing, with a rather strange name)

DCMS are carrying out a so-called "equality impact assessment" (= did you ever hear of anything so ludicrous in all your born days)

But then I don't expect unbiased reporting from that so-called "newspaper". Oops, I did it myself. Catching innit?

[Shewhoshallnotbenamed]

Neo-Nazi Hamsters.......I'll have nightmares!

Next time I see the DM in a shop I will get an image of a Hamster sat at a computer, wearing a swastika armband!

[BuzzLightBeer]

then my work here is done.