thanks v much for that bilbomum. Egg challenge makes it sound they will get her to juggle eggs or do the egg and spoon race! they have not asked me to cook anything though..

We had an egg challenge a few months ago for ds. They usually try well cooked egg first so I had to take a cake I'd made in. Often kids can tolerate cooked egg but will react to lightly cooked eggs, cooking at a high temperatures alters the protein structure I think.

They basically book you a bed for half a day and introduce the egg product via stages. First bit of cake taped to arm for half an hour (ds 2.6 looked at the nurse as if she was mad when she did it ). Then if no reaction they rub it on lips and wait. Then rub on tongue and wait. Finally they get to eat a slice of cake and then wait again.

We thought ds had passed but literally as we were walking out of the hospital he started complaining of stomach ache and had violent cramps and diarrohea (sp?) for the rest of the afternoon so it was classed as a failed challenge. It was a fairly tedious process but worthwhile and takes the fear factor out of introducing things at home.

My only advice would be take lots of snacks and food with you. My ds has multiple food allergies and they had absolutely nothing he could eat on the ward but luckily I had taken full supplies as usual. They had a play therapist and loads of toys, ds quite enjoyed the experience I think (apart from the end result...).

Think I may just give chicken a miss rather than avoid bottom meat!! Thanks for your post though as it seems that it is unusual to have chicken intolerance..How is your dd now with egg? Our dd2 10mo RAST positive for egg so been told not to give. Has an 'egg challenge' in September at the hospital. Did you ever have one of those? not sure what to expect..

Re the chicken and egg question, I was once told that if you are very allergic to eggs you may react to chicken - not often due to the meat itself but because there may be traces of egg on it. My egg allergic daughter used to get an allergic rash around her mouth after chicken but seems to have grown out of it (although not sadly the multiple allergies!). I went through a stage of avoiding giving her meat from around the chicken's bottom - not sure if that helped!!

Have you tried him with strogonoff? If he can tolerate soya then tofutti do a good sour cream called sour supreme (nice and high in calories), if no soya try with oatly cream which also works very well and doesn't have the sweetness of standard soya cream.

I've just tried some baking with coconut oil which was fairly successful. Bought it from a company called Tiana (google them, their web site has lots more info).

I read an article in the Telegraph about a bakery in New York called Babycakes who specialise in non dairy/egg/refined sugar cakes and they use coconut oil a lot and also apple puree instead of eggs. I think using the agave syrup instead of sugar was a step too far for poor ds but he seemed to quite enjoy them.

He is nut allergic as well as other things but I was assured coconut wasn't included on the danger list before I tried it and he was fine.

curry with two levels of fieryness?

When my dd2 had a dairy allergy (now outgrown) I used to make things like shepherds pie with minced lamb (just avoided dairy in the mashed potato).
Other things were: home made burgers or meatballs (that's tomato sauce again though...).
Have you tried making a white sauce with soy spread and soy milk? I vaguely remember doing that to make a bechamel sauce for lasagne (with no cheese) and it worked out fine. I also used to make dairy free pancakes with soy milk - they weren't bad either. She grew out of her milk allergy by the time she was 3 years old, but the nut allergy remains...

Our pharmacist- who has a v allergic niece- has said chicken not v common allergy but could be whatever chicken was packed in. (plastics??surely removed during cooking process??) He also said you can do a DIY skin test by exposing skin on tummy to a food you are unsure about for about 5 mins then thoroughly washing it off. Beats waiting for NHS tests I suppose.. Anyone else tried this?

chicken and egg - now you have got me thinking as DS allergic to egg, not allergic to chicken but not keen on it despite devouring everything else .....!

Babybarrister thanks for letting me know that. Ds2 is going to have tests done for tree nuts so I'll ask for a chickpea test too.

Girlsyearapart Ds2 has an egg allergy but seems ok with baked goods that contain egg. He's never had a problem with chicken (thank goodness, don't know what I'd give him otherwise!)

Yes, olive oil is much better. I used to fry one side of of ds2's toast in a bit of olive oil but I got lazy and just started using the spreads. I probably shouldn't.
I think I'll start doing all baking using oil.

Yes also use alot of olive oil. Not sure if this is an odd question but are egg and chicken allergies related..? DD2 def allergic to egg but seems v itchy and puffy after eating chicken.(Could end up in a philosophical chicken or the egg debate..!)

don't assume chickpeas same as lentils - DS allergic to lentils but not chickpeas so I make my own humous [without tahini as allergic to sesame ....]. MIL makes strawberries dipped into dark chocolate for DS which he loves of course

Sorry, I meant for dipping bread into of course .

You could use olive oil instead of spreads for some things. After all, in countries like Spain, Italy, Greece etc they also use olive oil for dipping into bread. Is quite yummy .

Not an opposition to Pure itself but just general marge/spreads.
They're not very good for you due to the way they're processed to make them set. They're essentially oil and water, which normally never mix. So the oil is heated to a really high temp, is then chemically altered and set.
Or something like that.

Not everywhere sells the sunflower pure so I do get vitalite too.

vitalite

Why the opposition to Pure?? Do you know something I don't? OMG if I can't give her that I don't know what's left...

co-op dougnuts.
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i have been cooking a fair few roasts to cater for dd4. or salads

I haven't tried DS on baked egg yet as I have still not recovered from re-trying DS on humous on the dietician's advice!! It has made me ultra paranoid about knowingly trying stuff I think/know he is allergic to.

He is nearly 2 1/2 and I think it is possible that he is growing out of his dairy allergy. He ate a kit kat when my FIL was supposed to be watching him with no apparent side effects, whereas he used to react if someone was drinking milk beside him so I am hopeful.

We're back for re-testing in September so I'm hoping I don't get my hopes dashed!

Tatt I agree that with allergic children you don't have much choice but to cook from scratch most of the time so don't feel any guilt about the ocassional can of spaghetti hoops.

In fact i was laughing about the juxtaposition of a thread in AIBU about a mum being up in arms abou the nanny giving her PFB filled pasta and my thread in the allegry section being all excited about co-op doughnuts being egg, dairy and soya free!!!

How about quinoa for a change?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/glossary/q.shtml?quinoa

Although it wouldn't work for you I sometimes resort to canned tomato soup when I get fed up of making different meals. I have tried making tomato soup from scratch but they prefer the tinned stuff, most probably for the higer sugar content. Nothing wrong with an occasional can - children with food allergies probably eat more heathily than most the majority of the time.

Do you give ds baked eggs? The dr told me to keep offering ds2 baked goods that include eggs. Obviously they're homemade with pure or oil, and include eggs. He seems to be ok with them so far, touch wood.
How old is your ds? Is he showing any signs of growing out of his dairy allergy?

I'm paranoid about giving ds2 anything new and had to pluck up loads of courage and stood there with the piriton ready when I gave him strawberries and mango!

He did have loads of tests, they did them on his back the first time as there wasn't enough room. I think the consultant didn't believe me when he asked what I thought DS was allergic to and I produced a list, but they were all positive apart from tomato .

They then did a peanut skin test when he did the tomato challenge as they suspected as he was allergic to so many other legumes he would be allergic to peanuts as well. It was negative, but we don't give him any nuts anyway.

I hate giving DS marge as well, but don't have much choice.

Trixy he must have had to have loads of tests.
Ds2 has had one session of testing where they tested for 6 things that I was concerned with. He tested positive to peanuts although he's never had any. They didn't do a tree nut test which I would like done. It would be good if I found he could have almonds and other nuts.

I don't think it's that bad to give spaghetti hoops. I am going to try them.

Personally, I am really anti margarine/spreads so hate having to give Pure.

shepherds pie

Yes, he's allergic to everything in that group apart from peas and peanuts (although he has never tried peanuts, just had a negative test so is most likely allergic to them as well).

I know exactly what you mean, I would love to be able to give DS egg or beans. I am struggling to find summery meals in this hot weather particularly.

I don't know whether I should be admitting this, but when I don't feel like cooking DS has heinz spaghetti hoops and potato waffles <<bad mother emoticon>>.

Something that also goes down well is homemade pizza. I just don't put cheese on DS's.

Trixy is your ds allergic to chickpeas?
Ds2 tested positive to all lentils - I assumed chickpeas was included in that group.

Thanks. Some good ideas here.
Unfortunately he can't have chickpeas as part of the beans/lentil group.
We used to regularly eat lentils and chickepeas (and fish) but I don't think I've cooked them in ages now.
When I didn't feel like cooking, ds1 would be so happy with egg, cheese or beans on toast but now I feel I have to be so much more organised and it gets quite draining.

I'll look out for that mayo and oatly cream as that could definitely vary things.

Burgers would be a good idea. I suppose I could freeze a batch and I'm definitely going to try rice pudding with coconut milk. Even its just for me. Sounds gorgeous

sorry it's the rice mayo that's dairy, egg and soya free, the rest have soya in.

Just the same way you would with normal milk misdee, just substitute the rice milk. It is also nice made with coconut milk.

Velvetcushions, Plamil make a mayo that is dairy, egg and soya free, which could help mix things up a bit, you could do baked potatoes or sandwiches with coronation chicken or chicken and sweetcorn.

rice pud with rice milk

how do i make rice pud with rice pud?

I can definitely empathise with this!!!!

DS is dairy, egg, legumes and sesame allergic.

I am getting really fed up of tomato pasta.

i can second oatly for a good white sauce.

I used to cook moussaka with a white sauce made from oatly which was nice.

How about homemade lamb burgers? DS also likes my homemade lamb and mint kebabs.

is he okay with chcikpeas? You could make humous.

nothing sensible or helpful to add just wanted to say I feel your culinary pain!! dd2 no dairy soya egg wheat tomato banana or plum. Wheat free pasta with broccoli and Pure spread anyone?? Mmm mm...

We have a similar problem, but thankfully not contained in just 1 child. DS1 has allergies to eggs, nuts, beans, kiwi and he most recent addition is peas (together with hayfever), ds2 has allergies to dairy and sesame seeds and we now suspect fish. I am vegetarian. I end up cooking different meals for everyone each night.

Quorn is not OK for dairy or egg allergy, soya is probably not OK with a bean allergy but that said ds1 will tolerate soya products but has a proven allergy to beans e.g. kidney, baked, black-eye etc.

I would second the suggestion of using oatly cream for sauces it is very good. Tescos also sell a dairy free "cheese" sauce mix which is quite reasonable when made using oatly. Home made rice pudding is good with rice milk if you want something a bit "milky" occassionally.

Oatly oat cream good for that "creamy" sauce ....
apart from that I can only empathise as just as boring round this way!

sorry meant dh and I cook a different meal on Saturdays for us (usually as he wants a fiery curry!)

I think soya comes from the bean/lentil group so he won't be able to have it.
Not sure about quorn.

Coconut milk is a good idea. Thanks I will try that.

I tend to cook one meal during the week (dh/I cook something different for us) and I think I'm just missing simple meals like fish in a white sauce and feel sad that ds2 won't be able to have anything like that. Plus ds1 misses out too.

How about soya? or tofu.

Could you do sauces with coconut milk? A chicken (I know!) Korma style dish without the almonds?

Can he have Quorn (Do they do a version without egg in - I think the regular one has some egg-white)

Ds2 has mutiple allergies and he can't have dairy, nuts, egg, beans and lentils or fish.
For him to get his proteins, I have to cook with chicken or meat everyday. He can't have white sauces so everything tends to be in a tomato based sauce or just roasted or grilled.

I do use a lot of veg and lunches are usually left overs or a carb and veg (today its rice cooked in a tomato, garlic base with carrots and veg thrown in)

Is there another protein source that I haven't considered?
Can anyone give me any ideas to vary meals?