eumovate has stopped working on DS's eczema - can I get your advice on what to do next
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DS is 2.5 and has moderately bad eczema which we kept on top of with emollient 4 or 5 times a day and used eumovate on some small patches where it was worse. All this worked pretty much ok from when he was 16 weeks until about 4 months ago. The eumovate doesn't seem to be having much effect and I'm going back to our GP later this week to ask if we can review it and maybe step up to something stronger, as DS has now got eczema on more of his body than ever before and it's spreading every day & he's waking at night with the itching, which is fairly recent. Swiched to epaderm on GP's advice 3 weeks ago, previously liked doublebase (and like many of you, have tried lots of other creams along the way). I try and do other things that work for LOs with eczema: extra rinse on washing machine, got a water softener a month ago, keep him cool at night, only wears cotton clothes.
I'm sure the hot weather is not helping but I feel must try some other measures.
The 2 things I'm thinking about are: getting rid of carpet in DS's bedroom and trying him on a dairy free diet. I'd be really interested and grateful to hear if anyone thinks these two things are worth trying - or got other suggestions. Everything I read about eczema says there is no conclusive evidence about diet, but I know from MN that others think it's helped. Thank you so much.
I have discovered this amazing cream and bath treatment from America called Aveeno Baby (not Aveeno). They only sell Aveeno Baby line in the US but they are much better than any other cream in the UK (I have tried Oilatum, Doublebase, E45, Dermo 500, Aveeno, Cetraben etc, you name it I have tried it!)I use the Aveeno Baby Bath Treatment sachets and the Soothing Relief Cream for my son. His skin is much smoother and his eczema is much better after I use them. I now order them on the internet. Although the shipping cost is quite high, it's worth it!
when , definitely get rid of the carpets & cuddly toys , he might be highly allergic to dust mites ( that's what triggers my dd & my eczema) . i have had REALLY bad eczema since i was a baby myself but 2 years ago i got wooden floors put in & changed our sofas to leather ones within a few weeks i LOST my eczema completely . my dd still has it she attends a hospital & i swear by AVEENO , if your lo is bad at the moment he might need antibiotics to help clear him up as none of his usual creams will work while he is infected , oilatum in the bath is great , hope he feels better soon
Doublebase is great stuff. We have just swapped to Hydromol as a soap subs. instead of aqueous. He has neoclarityn in the morn. and Ucerax (hydroxyzine)antihistamine at night to help him sleep.We were only presribed the Ucerax yesterday and were told to start on 2.5ml and work our way up to as much as 7 mls if we need to. He still woke up scratching last night so probably neeed to try 3 mls tonight. He has started on Eumovate which seems to work.
Has anyone else had Ucerax prescribed and did it work?
We (me and dcs) avoid Doublebase, seems to aggravate the skin; it certainly stings on mine. Instead we use Aveeno and Dermol.
It sounds from your description as if the eczema might have become infected and dc could need anti-b from the gp.
Eumovate comes in different strengths but gps are often reluctant to increase the strength as it thins the skin but when applied only to the directed area it works well. In combination with Calmurid, is the only creams that works for us.
Couple of other things: are you using sun-tan lotion on dc? Might that be irritating him? Have swapped to E45 lotion as the only non-aggravating cream I can find, although it makes them look like little white ghosts. And do you line-dry your clothes? Sometimes pollen in the air is a problem.
Our eczema is exacerbated by dairy but is not the cause. Cream and strong-flavoured cheddar particularly are not good but other dairy products are ok. Strangely cheeses made in the west country that have quite a distinctive taste are the worst aggravators.
Id happily bet my house on the body shops hemp hand cream (use all over body) working. Go into your local store, ask for a free sample pot and try it. Its about £9 per tube but I swear to god its a miracle cure. Good luck!
Adding my 2p worth! DD2 9mo baaaaad excema since only tiny got miles better on dairy and soya free diet also no wheat tomatoes bananas etc etc. Confirmed egg allergy amongst others. Epaderm didn't work and seemed to make her more itchy now back on diprobase and eumovate still seems to work for her on the bad bits. Hands covered with cotton socks pretty much 24-7, fan on all night long. Tried aveeno bath and oilatum but now we scrub her with Johnsons Top to Toe and randomly it seems to be working. (DH's idea..) Still itchy though looking fab compared to the days of people looking into the pram and struggling to hide their horror!
Victoriagirl - Hello - I have added to your post about feet and eczema - sorry for the delay.
thank you so much everyone. I am just glad to have some practical tips to follow up rather than sitting around worrying. Really interesting to read the mixed views on epaderm - had heard SLS caused problems for some people but hadn't looked at what's in epaderm.
DS was definitely struggling with pollen earlier this year with tree pollen, but I am not so sure that the grass pollen is as much of a problem (no hives, no sneezing, but then he is on antihistamines).
Victoriagirl - the oats thing (although others might correct me) is when you cut the foot off an old pair of tights, put a handful of porridge oats into it, tie a knot and then hold it under the tap as you're running the bath, or I think some people mabye use it to wipe over the skin as well.
Epaderm - I love it at times (eg on feet as it is so thick) but it contains SLS!
Pollen count - my daughter's eczema goes bananas with a high pollen count, and heat. Skin prick tests showed allergies to pollen (grass), dustmite, cats, peanut. She was previously cows milk allergic. Foods Matter website is a gem of info.
Aveeno - great stuff too for us but everyone is different.
Maybe ask pharmacist about Eumovate - why the change - any change to the ingredients?
Hi, just adding my experience..DD has eczema since a 2 week baby..having tried many preps, found a protocol which has been working for the last 2plus years..I shower her everyday with lukewarm water but use soap only on alternate days or once in 3 days etc depending on the weather and where she has been playing etc. soap is only a white soap (have tried oatmeal, diprobase etc for bathing but presently soap seems to be fine when used sparingly) imediately after bathin, a quick pat to take away the water followed by liberal use of : equal amounts of diprobase and aveeno cream mixed in my palm and applied generously. when she was younger I used the emollients twice a day and now use it once a day- may have to go back to twice a day in winter. for flare ups have used mometasone (elocon) in the past and found it better than eumovate, dermovate etc. havent needed to use steroid for a year now. for her hair, I use infaderm shampoo from boots.
have used epaderma and she was covered in rash he next day. others have worked a bit but never took away all the eczema till i tried the above combination- hoping it works for others