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NAET Allergy treatment

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tinytalker Fri 20-Mar-09 14:45:04

Has anybody researched or have experience of this homeopathic method of treatment for allergies?
I usually steer clear of 'unproven' treatments but my allergy specialist actually referred to it at a consultation last week! Though he doesn't offer it I was wondering whether to pursue this as a treatment option.
Any thoughts would be useful.

Mumfie68 Fri 20-Mar-09 16:25:39

I have to say, as a parent of an anaphylactic (and unlikely to grow out of it) child I think I've probably read every page related to allergies on the whole internet! And honestly, I think the following link sums up my opinion on NAET: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devi_Nambudripad.

Trouble is, the way the NAET supporters describe their work, it sounds perfectly rational and logical, but the bottom line is it's not been proven to work - the results aren't reproducible under test conditions. Personally, I'd change my allergy specialist and have a word with someone about being recommended to try such quackery if that happened to me.

williamsmummy Sat 21-Mar-09 10:37:52

I would change your allery specialist.

MumsLove Fri 29-May-09 09:26:48

□ NHS Evidence. www.library.nhs.uk/booksandjournals/details.aspx? t=naet&sc=bnj.pub.MED&sr=bnj.pub&did=18803817
(to access link copy and paste it on your browser)

Title: Successful treatment of food allergy with Nambudripad's Allergy Elimination Techniques (NAET) in a 3-year old: A case report.
Citation: Cases journal, 2008, vol./is. 1/1(166), 1757-1626
Author(s): Terwee CB
Abstract: Food allergy may constitute a major burden to children and their families. A 3-year-old girl was intolerant to milk, sugar, egg white, pork meat, and other foods, causing eczema and dyspnoe. She was treated with Nambudripad's Allergy Elimination Technique (NAET), a combination of kinesiology and acupressure. After 7 treatment sessions (within 4 weeks) she was free of symptoms. After three years, she can still eat everything without symptoms. This case report highlights that possible benefit of NAET for children with food allergy. Randomized clinical trials should be encouraged to study the effectiveness of NAET in treating food allergy.

Publication type: Journal Article
Source: MEDLINE from PubMed

MumsLove Fri 29-May-09 09:35:27

□ NHS Evidence. www.library.nhs.uk/booksandjournals/details.aspx? t=naet&sc=bnj.pub.MED&sr=bnj.pub&did=18803817
(to access the link please copy and paste it on your browser)

Title: Successful treatment of food allergy with Nambudripad's Allergy Elimination Techniques (NAET) in a 3-year old: A case report.
Citation: Cases journal, 2008, vol./is. 1/1(166), 1757-1626
Author(s): Terwee CB
Abstract: Food allergy may constitute a major burden to children and their families. A 3-year-old girl was intolerant to milk, sugar, egg white, pork meat, and other foods, causing eczema and dyspnoe. She was treated with Nambudripad's Allergy Elimination Technique (NAET), a combination of kinesiology and acupressure. After 7 treatment sessions (within 4 weeks) she was free of symptoms. After three years, she can still eat everything without symptoms. This case report highlights that possible benefit of NAET for children with food allergy. Randomized clinical trials should be encouraged to study the effectiveness of NAET in treating food allergy.

Publication type: Journal Article
Source: MEDLINE from PubMed

Nighbynight Fri 29-May-09 10:02:23

I was also recommended to an alternative practitioner by a doctor working in teh nhs.
I have never verified every single one of the alternative test results, but 2 of the allergies identified(wheat and tomatoes) were verified by skin prick tests, years later. (also many negative results were verified). Also the tomatoes was verified by red rash round mouth, something I hadnt bothered to mention because I didnt realise it was allergy related.
I did get better when I avoided the foods,too. Also, being tested blind (I could not see the food I was being tested for), I knew when the test for tartrazine failed, because I got such a strong reaction I could feel it, and asked the doctor (he was a medical doctor) what food was being tested.

The tests I had were muscle reflex tests, that have been slated on this site as quackery. All I can say is, that the evidence appears to suggest that they did provide a reasonable estimate of the things that I was allergic to. But they did look like magic, and I was sceptical at the time.
So I would not automatically change the doctor just because they recommend an alternative diagnosis.

VelvetCushions Fri 29-May-09 10:41:45

I'm open to trying out alternative and homeopathy treatments after I've seen it work on a relatives baby who suffered with serious exzema. After lots of dr's appointments and steroid cream, a homeopathy treated it within a week and its never returned in 5 years.

I do believe that you need to find a reputable homeopath. I'm sure there are lots of dodgy ones around.

tatt Fri 29-May-09 11:44:53

A case report about an "intolerant" 3 year old child is not something I would take very seriously. Firstly we all know that intolerances can be outgrown. Even with allergies you get false positive tests so an apparently good result can be someone who was never allergic.

Many so called "allergy specialists" are useless - there are very few qualified doctors in this country and stories like the death report below are why I really don't think the OP has seen one of them.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/man-died-an-hour-after-being-treated-for-pea nut-allergy-1719832.html

VelvetCushions Fri 29-May-09 11:49:04

I've been hearing about the desensitising technique now being used in hospitals for serious nut allergy sufferers.
I read that apparently, the method they are using is the one that has been used by homeopathics. Surely there must be some good results with trying alternative therapies if they have been doing this?

PMSLBrokeMN Fri 29-May-09 17:37:46

Intolerances ARE NOT the same as allergies. The whole mechanism is completely different. Is there eny evidence that these 'intolerances' didn't go away on their own, as often happens? Can they, as Tatt said, prove that the subject had intolerances to start with? This is just a case report on ONE PERSON, not any sort of scientific trial, and until that happens I stand by what's in the link I posted earlier (2nd post, posted as Mumfie68).

And I take your point about alternative remedies VelvetCushions - as long as they're shown scientifically to be effective, as is happening at Addenbrookes, I'm all for anything that can help!

pointydog Fri 29-May-09 17:56:26

agree with tatt and broke.

misdee Fri 29-May-09 18:07:26

personally, i wouldnt risk it.

tatt Fri 29-May-09 22:22:03

think its important to make clear that the method used at Addenbrookes is not homeopathic and that it is extremely well monitored in a hospital setting. The doctors known what an anaphylactic reaction looks like and have full resusitation facilities available if there are problems.

There are some superficial similarities in that they start with a tiny does of allergen.

I am sympathetic to alternative therapies, provided they are used carefully. All too often they are used by people who don't really understand what they are doing or the risks their "patients" run.

MumsLove Sat 30-May-09 09:39:59

Stacy L. LaPoint. A Helpful Guide to Feeding Your Pets A Raw Food.
SKIN ALLERGIES: Analyzing an Uncomfortable Situation
"At least thirty percent of my practice is treating animals with allergies," said Jan Harkins, DVM of the Reedsburg Small Animal Hospital in Reedsburg, WI. "We've found NAET to be a reliable screening test that is quicker and less evasive than skin and blood tests. We can get very specific in finding the antigens causing the allergies. In most cases we change the diet to raw whole foods. Improving diet and digestion helps almost every allergic condition," concluded Harkins.
With principles based in Chinese Medicine, the diagnostic method used in NAET is Muscle Response Testing (MRT), while the treatment component involves stimulating the spinal nerves via acupressure to re-imprint the brain's recognition of the allergen.

Link: www.companionnaturalpetfood.com/pdf/companionbookletv3.pdf -

MumsLove Sat 30-May-09 10:24:09

If we where to choose going to the doctors or not, by relying on the statistics and proved court cases there are, on how many patients have died- just yearly- because of doctors and hospital mistakes, then we would never approaching there door.

It takes very long time before whole societies and there establishments accept new ideas. Because change is very uncomfortable thing when it comes to risk personal interests.

Galileo Galilei was one who believed the heliocentric model. Who said that earth moves round the sun and latter credited for ''discovering'' it. But he was also imprisoned for believing such an idea.

PMSLBrokeMN Sat 30-May-09 13:16:02

Fine. But can you agree that there needs to be uncontested scientific proof? I'm fairly sure that Galileo's ideas are provable.

MumsLove Sun 31-May-09 01:36:39

You are absolutely right.
But what do you think?
Is there a scientific proof that Jesus Christ has died and resurrected?
I thing yes, there is.
In my opinion if science does not prove the existence of God as well the manifestation of God through His/Her creation, then it is not true science.
What I mean is, that things they are a little bit more complicate, when it comes to what is scientific proof and what is not.
So it is a matter of choice.
People generally are weary and resistant on things and ideas they are new to them and the way they conceive reality.
But life has proved that what was "yesterday" unconceivable becomes today everyday life.
As well the other way round. - What was "yesterday" everyday life today is unconceivable.

bruffin Sun 31-May-09 12:00:18

But all it need's is a simple blind test which none of the various alternative testing pass.
I do wonder if a doctor recommends it is done as a sort of placebo

MumsLove Sun 31-May-09 19:33:07

Neither Jesus "passed" the blind tests of His judges because they "did not have ears to hear and eyes to see " and understanding to understand and most of all they did not have guts to accept His truth.
Thats why our world is the way it is.
Because pride Ego and personal interest governs.
And then what is placebo?
If placebo can alleviate symptoms and heal even without the side effects, just because the patient believe on it.
Then what is this mechanism in the make up of the human nature that just belief can trigger a healing process?
And we shouldn't be concentrated to find out why placebo works?
You might be interested on some literature on the subject.

The Genie in Your Genes: Epigenetic Medicine and the New Biology of Intention
by Dawson Church

The Divine Matrix: Bridging Time, Space, Miracles, and Belief (Paperback)
by Gregg Braden

The Biology of Belief: Unleashing the Power of Consciousness, Matter and Miracles
by Bruce H. Lipton

The field
By Lynne Mc Taggart

PMSLBrokeMN Sun 31-May-09 19:47:50

Sorry, I only know about scientific discussions - I'll leave the spiritual to others.

MumsLove Mon 01-Jun-09 01:39:53

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fairywave Mon 01-Jun-09 01:46:29

Mumslove, I posted recently a link which detailed a death due to 'treatment' by NAET . I find it very offensive that you are posting this nonsense here and I am about to report your posts.

MumsLove Mon 01-Jun-09 10:33:20

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MumsLove Mon 01-Jun-09 12:14:26

Well what can I say.
Just for the mothers they want to know of what can help our children to get healthy.
Of what it works or what doesn't.
Just pray and ask Gods help and will lead you to it.

MumsLove Mon 01-Jun-09 13:05:40

For scientific evidence and not gossip you can look at:
http://scholar.google.co.uk NAET

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