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Mumsnet Discussions: Adult fiction : I like Carver, Tartt, Proulx, Byatt, Amis. Tell me what to read next. (46 messages)
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By franch on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:21:51
I think I'm on novels rather than short stories at the moment. Thanks ...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By choccyp1g on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:24:09
Honestly thought it was a baby name thread.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By franch on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:25:05
Right ... Tartt would be an interesting choice ...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By choccyp1g on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:26:11
Didn't notice Tartt grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By nickytwotimes on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:26:36
If you like Carver, you might like Ali Smith. Similar pared down style in some ways. "Hotel World" and "The Accidental" are fantastic.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By franch on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:27:28
Ooh yes I've read Hotel World which was brilliant. Will put The Accidental on my list - thanks nicky
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Aitch on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:28:02
omfg... i thought for one awful moment this was a baby names thread! shock
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By nickytwotimes on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:29:33
Her short stories are excellent too, btw.
"The Whole Story and Other Stories", "Other Stories and Other Stories" and "The First Person and Other Stories" which is new and which dh bought me today - extra brownie points for him, then. grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By choccyp1g on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:30:08
Tell you what I just re-read which was brilliant; Small Island by Andrea Levy.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By franch on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:31:03
Oh yes - been meaning to read that choccy
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By choccyp1g on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:31:12
Also Hilary Mantel.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By franch on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:32:50
What do you recommend by Mantel choccy?

Well done nicky's DH!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By choccyp1g on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:43:11
I've read others of hers (can't remember names), but The Hilary Mantel that I really liked was called Beyond Black. I found it really clever and intriguing ... but noticed on the blurb that it was " a masterpiece of wit" which I did not agree with...[puzzled]
I've also enjoyed Kichen God's wife by Amy Tan (though took a few chapters to get into it) and Sky Burial by Xinran. (Chinese name)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By choccyp1g on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:46:21
BTWI don't have such fantastic recall powers as to quote blurb. Couldn't even remember the name of the book, or where I'd put it (turned out to be with the other books where I first looked). So picked up the best of the other ones that I'd read in the last six months from the pile by the bed.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By pofaced on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:50:31
i adore Carver but loath Tartt so bear that in mind with what foloows..

Have you read Kate Atkinson's first novel, "Behind the scenes at the the Museum"? Very funny, very witty, very good.

If you want to go thrillery, Hurting Distance by Sophie Hannah is very, very good... scary, perceptive, female etc
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By hanaflower on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:54:03
LOL Aitch - I just opened this to post the exact same thing grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By janeite on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:56:06
Chandler? Yes, I think you'd like "Behind The Scenes At The Museum" and "Hotel World". I hated "The Accidental" though, for what it's worth.

Have you read "Winter In Madrid" or the Matthew Shardlake books by CJ Sansom?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By choccyp1g on Sat 08-Nov-08 23:02:08
Following the baby names theme ... Trollope is good.. I mean Anthony though not Joanna !
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By franch on Sun 09-Nov-08 07:50:18
Thanks choccy! Am starting a list.

pofaced I've just read Atkinson's Case Histories which I disliked so would need persuading to try Behind the Scenes - DH (similar taste to mine) gave up on it.

Will try the rest!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By janeite on Sun 09-Nov-08 13:15:54
Behind The Scenes ... is the only one of hers I've liked.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By YeahBut on Sun 09-Nov-08 13:21:08
I loved 'Behind the Scenes' but not her others, apart from the most recent 'When Will There Be Good News'.
'The Book Thief', 'Child 44', and 'A Quiet Belief in Angels' are all excellent.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By LackaDAISYcal on Sun 09-Nov-08 13:25:15
Margaret Atwood? I'm a huge fan of hers and haven't read a bad one yet.

Also John Fowles. The Magus is a real brainstormer; lots of twists and turns for the hero and the reader.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By franch on Sun 09-Nov-08 13:32:55
Oh great John Fowles - never read him - great idea. Ditto Atwood.

Still need convincing about Atkinson! Will read the others first!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By janeite on Sun 09-Nov-08 14:30:03
The Book Thief is lovely. I hated "A Quiet Belief In Angels" tbh; I seem to be the only person in the world to feel this way though.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By janeite on Sun 09-Nov-08 14:31:37
Atwood - "The Handmaid's Tale" is far and away the best of the ones I've read.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By UnquietDad on Sun 09-Nov-08 14:34:36
It's funny referring to them all by their surnames. Makes us sound like the Self-Righteous Brothers from Harry Enfield.

"Now, Atwood, I like a bit of Atwood."

"Oh, yeah, Atwood's yer real fing."

"But I tell yer what. If Atwood came round my 'ouse I'd say, "Atwood! I appreciates yer complex characters and yer intricate plottin'!" but if she tried to get all feminist on me, I'd be sayin', 'OY! ATWOOD! NOOOOOOO!'"
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By franch on Mon 10-Nov-08 01:06:39
grin Unquiet

I feel like I've done something weird, calling authors by their surnames - has this never been done before ...

Oh - I should've mentioned GRAHAM Greene and VIRGINIA Woolf among my favourites
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By zazen on Mon 10-Nov-08 01:17:30
Try Marisha Pessl's "Special topics in Calamity Physics".
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By zazen on Mon 10-Nov-08 01:17:45
grin@UD
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By oops on Mon 10-Nov-08 01:21:36
ohhhh the magus is dreadfully dreadfully pretentious.

I love love love Jenny Diski. there's one where she goes to the antartic just to sit in somewhere that is white IIRC.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Miyazaki on Mon 10-Nov-08 06:37:52
If you like Raymond Carver - I would think you would like Cormac MacCarthy. All the pretty horses. Is amazing.

Peter Carey - Oscar and Lucinda?

Amis. Shudder.

UQD. spot on.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By tinierclanger on Mon 10-Nov-08 07:18:31
Try Richard Ford - The Sportswriter, Independence Day and the other one.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By plumandolive on Mon 10-Nov-08 08:24:27
grin lol at unquiet! You're right!

I like all those writers too.
Have you read Siri Hustvedt? Absolutely brilliant- she's Paul Auster's wife- he's great too.

I always recommend William Boyd- Restless, The Blue Afternoon, Any Human heart-- I think he's one of the great writers.

Jonathan Franzen- The Corrections, I read after Donna Tartt because I wanted more US stuff.

And then Alice Hoffman- who reminded me a bit of Donna Tarrt, although her plots aren't quite as strong.

Amis makes me ... shudder too Miyazaki- he gives me the creeps. I read his stuff when I was younger though... maybe just getting too old..
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By franch on Mon 10-Nov-08 09:45:53
Many thanks all! Have added these to my list. Excellent suggestions. I have read one Siri Hustvedt plum, but would def read more.

And I know what you mean about Amis, definitely. I just like the way he writes - and sometimes I like to read outside my comfort zone. Everything I've read lately has been way too comfy - probably because people keep lending me books and I never get the chance to choose anything myself!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By brokenrecord on Mon 10-Nov-08 10:01:03
Ooh, your taste sounds similar to mine! (I know you are off short stories, but have you read The little black book of stories by AS Byatt? I thought it was amazing.)

How about Alan Warner? Morvern Callar and These Demented Lands are pretty special. I found the later stuff hard to read though.

Ann Enright? The Pleasure of Eliza Lynch - or any of them in fact...

Emotionally Weird by Kate Atkinson is good, and Helen Dunmore writes some haunting novels (so much so that I haven't been able to even begin reading some of the latest ones she's written!

If you like Carver you might like Updike. Not the same sort of writing, but lots of women don't seem to have the stomach for him. The Rabbit series is one of my all time faves.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By franch on Mon 10-Nov-08 10:12:54
Yes I think we are on the same wavelength broken! Have read Morvern Callar (have you seen the film too? v good) but none of the others - many thanks
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By midnightexpress on Mon 10-Nov-08 10:15:18
Have you read any Michael Chabon? I've just started The Yiddish Policemen's Union, and am enjoying it, and thought The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay was fabulous.

John Irving? The Hotel New Hampshire or A Prayer for Owen Meany
Philip Roth?
Jonathan Frantzen (but wouldn't bother with him apart from The Corrections)
If you like short stories, AL Kennedy is good - I'd recommend Original Bliss
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By francagoestohollywood on Mon 10-Nov-08 10:25:18
Try Kurt Vonnegut (any novel could do, but "slaughterhouse n. 5" is one of the most popular).

I have just started to read "Easter Parade" by Richard Yates, who also wrote Revolutionary Road.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By brokenrecord on Mon 10-Nov-08 11:52:58
Assuming you've done:

Heart of Darkness

Anna Karenina

Madame Bovary?

I liked the look of the film of Morvern Callar, but thought it might not live up to the book for me.

I read some Siri Hustvedt but it didn't really do it for me. She is in the camp for me of people who want to be a writer, rather than want to write IFYSWIM.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SixSpotBonfire on Mon 10-Nov-08 11:57:04
Early Ian Banks - The Crow Road especially is very good. Avoid later stuff like the plague, though.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By franch on Tue 11-Nov-08 19:35:34
More great ideas! The only one I've read out of that lot is Heart of Darkness. Thanks so much.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By brokenrecord on Tue 11-Nov-08 21:03:32
Anna Karenina is probably my all-time favourite book. I tried once and couldn't get started, but non-stop breastfeeding dd1 meant that I had run out of all other options. It seemed to me it could have been written yesterday, and all the characters were just like people I knew.

Another one you might like is Restoration by Rose Tremain, and also the one by her about Hamlet's parents whose title I've forgotten.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By franch on Thu 13-Nov-08 20:19:39
Will def give Anna K a go. And yes Rose Tremain's pretty good - haven't read Restoration or the other one you mention, sounds interesting
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By gingersarah on Wed 19-Nov-08 13:39:08
I can't recommend Mating by Norman Rush highly enough.
It's not that easy to get hold of, but well worth it to anyone who likes these authors. I would put Mating up there with Anna K.

ha ha ha ha "OI! Atwood! NOOOOOOOOOOO!"
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By mrsgboring on Wed 19-Nov-08 13:48:51
How about Julian Barnes, Barbara Kingsolver and Carol Shields. Pretty much anything by any of them. Barbara Kingsolver tends to slightly purple prose in her opening chapter (IMO) but persevere.

I second the suggestion of trying Behind the Scenes at the Museum; it is far far better than anything else she's written, though it does have some thematic similarities to Case Histories, which may put you off.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cheesesarnie on Wed 19-Nov-08 13:49:48
after a quick glance at title i thought this was a baby name threadgrin!


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