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Mumsnet Discussions: Adult fiction : The Book Thief - MUST read (131 messages)
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By katiekittlemouse on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:05:51
I have just finished this book - it's brilliant! Well written, unusual, harrowing, sad, and in parts funny....
Everyone should read it!! What did you think?
It sits now on my shelf of the best books I've ever read with The Secret History, Shantaram and The Kite Runner.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ShowOfHands on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:06:54
I have tried and tried and just can't get into it. The constant metaphors make my teeth itch.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By boogeek on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:11:33
I liked it too. The Secret History is my favourite ever book! On which basis I am going to look out for Shantaram, which I haven't heard of before ;)
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By lilibet on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:14:15
I loved it!! Dh is now reading it but I keep picking it up and reading the best bits - sob!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Spaceman on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:15:39
I read it recently and loved it.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By geraldinetheluckygoat on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:17:53
Showofhands, my dp hated it for the same reasons as you, but I am about a third of the way through and am LOVING IT! (Although nervous that it is about to get incredibly sad and one of those books that haunts me for ages afterwards....).
I really liked the Kite Runner too, but it left me feeling a bit depressed!! Have you read A Thousand Splendid Suns, katiekittlemouse?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Twims on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:18:10
What's the secret history?

Loved Book Thief
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Spaceman on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:20:30
I've read thousand splended suns and kite runner too. To be honest I started of loving both stories and then they suddenly seemed a bit soapy - especially suns.

What's Secret History? Never heard of that one either.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By duckyfuzz on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:21:31
I started this on holiday and struggled at first then got into it and enjoyed it, but since we've been back home (only a couple of months blush) I haven't finished it - will try harder!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By HumphreyCushion on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:22:00
I loved 'The Book Thief'.
It made me cry, and I'm hard as nails usually. grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By geraldinetheluckygoat on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:25:48
oh no, it is going to make me cry then definitely (not hard as nails at all...grin)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Spaceman on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:28:36
made me choke up badly. You WILL cry.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By EmmalinaC on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:33:37
It's a wonderful book - made me sob. And I also loved The Secret History and The Kite Runner. So, like boogeek I too am off to hunt down Shantaram - thanks for the tip katielittlemouse!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bagsforlife on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:35:58
I didn't like it at all, sorry. Found it really irritating but was written as a children's book originally I think.Did make me cry. Found it a bit self consciously trying to be clever. However, The Secret History is one of my fave books! in fact may read it again now you have reminded me.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By boogeek on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:39:25
What's the secret history? What is the secret history???
It is wonderful - my favourite ever and the only book I have ever read through (in about 24 hours, breathlessly) then turned over and started again immediately.
By the unfortunately named Donna Tartt: it apparently took her 10 years. She then spent another 10 years and came up with The Little Friend, which was so disappointing.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By retiredgoth1 on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:40:58
.....whilst I can see where the criticism originates (contrived and clunky metaphors certainly) I loved this book.

Despite the seemingly bleak subject matter it is ultimately warm, funny, human and humane.

...I read the book, have listened to the audiobook, and am just going to have a peek on IMDB to see if film rights have been sold. I think it would transfer very well to the screen....
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By retiredgoth1 on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:44:08
...the answer to my own question is yes. Projected 2010 release....
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By nowtygaffer on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:49:12
I didn't enjoy it at all. Found it far too contrived and irritating. Thought it was just me who felt like this as most of my friends loved it.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Simplysally on Wed 05-Nov-08 21:52:09
I loved the Book Thief - not quite so much 1000 Splendid Suns. That made me angry more than anything.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By katiekittlemouse on Thu 06-Nov-08 11:28:54
The Secret History is by Donna Tartt, it's a fab book - unputdownable... another MUST READ.

Shantaram is a mammouth novel, set in India. I is about a guy who escapes jail from Australia, travels to India and gets involved with the mafia and also works as a doctor in the slums of Bombay.... fascinating. I love books about India. Have travelled there several times, my fav. country!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By lilibet on Thu 06-Nov-08 12:00:41
They're making a film of Secret History - oooh - I wonder who they have cast. Will go and look, bet they will be wrong.

Oh, I tried and tried and tried with My Little Friend - total bilge!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By lilibet on Thu 06-Nov-08 12:02:36
Retiredgoth - I can't find it on IMDB - can you do a link please?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By katiekittlemouse on Thu 06-Nov-08 12:31:05
lilibet - was warned off My Little Friend..... what a shame after such a good first novel
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By FlossieT on Thu 06-Nov-08 12:38:29
Am putting Shantaram on my list - never heard of it before but it sounds excellent. Thanks, kkm!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By sleepyeyes on Thu 06-Nov-08 18:55:50
I found it hard to get into 'The Book Thief' and gave up in the end, there are so many other great reads out there.

I second Donna Tarts Secret History it was highly recommended to me on here last summer, its one of my favorite books now.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By nuttymum303 on Fri 07-Nov-08 08:13:21
I have a copy of The Book Thief (have read it already). GOt a copy from charity shop for 45p lol.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TwoIfBySea on Fri 07-Nov-08 19:59:45
I do think that it is jam packed with metaphors that do sometimes catch of the flow of reading but even for that I still loved The Book Thief. Simply for the characters I think and for once I didn't foresee what was going to happen.

Also loved The Secret History too and was equally disappointed in My Little Friend. Although I didn't mind the ending as such I did feel it was very rushed, almost as though she realised how much she had written and got fed up with the story so just ended it. There, managed that without putting a spoiler I hope!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By forkhandles on Thu 27-Nov-08 21:42:03
So on the strength of this thread I bought the Secret History and have just finished it and loved it. Thank you
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Blossomingintoachristmasfairy on Thu 27-Nov-08 21:51:51
I wonder if I should try and finish the Little Friend. I too waited with bated breath for it as loved Secret history, might have to read that again now.

Loved Kite Runner and Splendid suns.

Just finished a Jodi Piccoult run, and am relaxing with Slummy Mummy which has had me laughing out loud on trains etc. blush
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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Tillyboo on Fri 28-Nov-08 22:43:33
I am descended from Dutch Jews and I have been researching what happened to them in WWII. There was no happy ending for the majority and so, to me, reading The Book Thief was poignant, thought provoking and gave me an insight into how some Germans felt about the persecution.

A brilliant book and one I urge you to read if you have not.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CalifraundingFathers on Fri 28-Nov-08 22:52:23
I really liked teh book thief but Donna Tart owes me my money and time back. The secret history was a steaming pile.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Fri 26-Dec-08 18:05:13
I'm 100 pages in, thinking you lot are smoking something.

If death ever talks, I would expect him to have something more interesting to say about the world, life, death, etc than rambling on about colors in the sky like a retard.

Does it get better? Or should I go back to my book club saying the dog ate it?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By NancysGarden on Sat 27-Dec-08 21:44:31
Want to read it, recommended by most, but if this is, dear OP a parallel of heights with the kite runner then maybe I won't like it. KR could have been at least a third shorter, great story I love thousand splendid suns but lots of KR was overdone/ overexplained IMO
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Sat 27-Dec-08 22:08:43
I hated 1000 Splendid Suns. Written in English by an American who knows little about Afghanistan. Everyone in the West knows two things about Afghanistan - (1) Buddha statues blown up by the Taliban and (2) women get beaten up there. And that is all this book talks about.

Like a book about the US, written in Arabic, by a Saudi guy, which talks only about everyone eating hamburgers and banging each other.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Frizbe on Sat 27-Dec-08 22:10:29
I loved this book, was randomly recommended to me by a woman in Tesco (shock horror at the shop) whilst I recommended a John Harvey book to her! (lots of pondering in the book aisle) I enjoyed this immensley, I hope she enjoyed her book too!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Sat 27-Dec-08 22:11:47
Does it get better after page 100, though?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Sat 27-Dec-08 22:14:04
Phew - CoteDAzur. I pretty much felt the same way about The Book Thief. Totally overwritten. The basic storyline was ok, but the writing was so self-indulgent. Drove me nuts. There are lots of good books out there about the German experience of WWII and the Holocaust. This is, IMHO, not one of them.

Haven't read A Thousand Splendid Suns. Was put off by all the hype...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Sat 27-Dec-08 22:17:29
The author seems to get more involved with his story as the book progresses, and less obsessed with proving how novel and clever his writing can be, so yes - to a certain extent - it does improve.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Sat 27-Dec-08 22:20:51
If it's in the library, maybe I'll check it out.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Sat 27-Dec-08 22:33:37
I've only read the first 100 pages so perhaps shouldn't judge, but it is just so... puerile.

If characters were any less developed, they would be one-dimensional. So far, the only thing I know about 'Mama' is that she calls everyone "swine", for example.

And will death stop rambling like an imbecile about colors? In the rest of the book, does he say anything remotely interesting about being an immortal predator?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Sat 27-Dec-08 22:34:58
i only give books 50 pages and if they still bore me, they go back to the library, donated to the charity shop or, for ones i find it sinful to impose on others, they become tender for the garden rubbish fires.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Sat 27-Dec-08 22:38:57
Would you be surprised to hear that the irascible Mama actually harbours a softer heart than she lets on? How, erm, original...

No, no really.

Expat: a bit tasteless to talk about burning books on this thread, no? wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Sat 27-Dec-08 22:40:41
Penth, I haven't read The Book Thief. I came on this thread to find out what people thought about it. wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Sat 27-Dec-08 22:49:53
Just kidding with you, expat! The book's about Germany during WWII, hence my aside.

If you want to read this book, I'll send you my copy.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Sun 28-Dec-08 10:59:54
Why is it a "must read" for adults, though? It reads like a typical children's book so far - superficial, stereotypical, and heart-string tugging.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Bumperlicious on Sun 28-Dec-08 11:13:56
Someone at work has just lent this to me so I will give it a go, as soon as I have finished Freakanomics!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Thu 01-Jan-09 09:32:34
I'm at page 250 or so, and it is just the worst waste of time ever.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By dietstartstomorrow on Fri 02-Jan-09 17:26:01
Loved this book. Probably the best thing I read in 2008.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TotalChaos on Fri 02-Jan-09 17:27:36
Oh it was all right, not amazing, not the best book on the topic of childhood in Nazi Germany by any means.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 27 on Fri 02-Jan-09 17:28:29
I loved this book. I cried all the way through the last third of it.
I thought the ending was really good.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Fri 02-Jan-09 21:29:48
Without meaning to be rude - How old are you people, and which other books are you comparing this to?

I'm at page 387 and it is still as superficial, dull, and childish as the first 10 pages.

Alice In Wonderland is a children's book, but it works on multiple levels and the adult reader takes something from it as well as the child. Same with Moby Dick, where a simple story carries complex themes.

Not here. The Book Thief is just a children's book. There is no complexity. Even death, a timeless entity that should be a source of penetrating wisdom and unique perspective, has nothing remotely interesting to say.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Fri 02-Jan-09 21:38:33
Why are you still reading this, Cote? Masochism?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bagsforlife on Fri 02-Jan-09 21:40:25
Completely agree with you CoteDAzur.Found it dreadful and v badly written. Was not in the least surprised to see it was written by a youngish Australian.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Fri 02-Jan-09 21:47:02
Not masochism. Book club.

Which is also how I came to read such examples of mediocrity as Memory Keeper's Daughter and 1000 Splendid Suns.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Fri 02-Jan-09 21:48:02
Ah-ha. Why I've never joined a book club.

Shudder.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By janeite on Fri 02-Jan-09 21:49:32
I agree that The Memory Keeper's Daughter and 1000 Splendid Suns were no good but I really liked The Book Thief.

Unfortunately it's a while since I read it and I can't remember much about it, so need to read it again.

The not remembering is a flaw in me, not in the book!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bagsforlife on Fri 02-Jan-09 21:52:04
Yes, I was forced to read the Memory Keepers Daughter too.....
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:07:53
LOL. Would love to be a fly on the wall in Cote's book group when she lets rip about the general crappiness of this book. grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:27:30
I've done it before. They humor me grin

You should have seen me rant and rave on 1000 Splendid Suns. I was born & raised in a Muslim country so know a bit about the religion, customs, traditions and ripped that pile of poop page by page.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:30:42
Just trying to visualise the stunned faces of the other members who thought it was 'a nice read'. Ho ho ho.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:32:36
"Read it again" shock

Will you live forever? If not, just how do you justify another eight hours spent on these 500+ page book?

I'm just wishing for it to end now so I can start reading a book written for adults. Like Anathem (Neal Stephenson) or even Devil May Care (Sebastian Faulks).
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:36:10
Oh, that's nothing! I was forced to read The Time Traveller's Wife.

I nearly lost the will to live a few times.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:37:50
You know what would make this book interesting? If the eternal, preternatural predator Death was more like Lestat in the book "Interview With The Vampire". He is just a vampire, but the subject of eternal life, witnessing the deaths of mortals, caring for humans but being above it all, etc was narrated with interesting depth and beauty.

This Death just rambles about the sky being "the color of Jews". Wtf? hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:38:47
Was it worse than Memory Keeper's Daughter?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ScottishMummy on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:39:22
forced to read TT Wife,me toowinkmy sole book long haulwink will never get that tie back
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:40:47
Hmm, that would actually be an interesting competition, because The Memory Keeper's Daughter could certainly give it a run for its money. As could The Island.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ScottishMummy on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:40:50
Oh Memory Keeper wife,the endless descriptions schmaltzy naratives.eugh
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:41:00
See, I'd say that The Time Traveller's Wife is 'better', by virtue of being more original than The Book Thief, whose plot, while good-ish and worthy, was nevertheless almost entirely predictable (to say nothing about the style, however).
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:42:54
Haven't read The Memory Keeper's Daughter or The Island. Generally I avoid 'bestsellers' (unless it's Roth, whom I lurrrve). Somehow The Book Thief slipped under my radar. Waste of £7.99.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:43:54
Oh the endless descriptions of snow in Memory Keeper's Daughter almost killed me.

He was "listening to the snow fall". Right. hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By blackrock on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:44:52
Secret history by Donna Tartt was fabulous. I waited and waited then didn't like My Little Friend.

The book thief...I am reading now. Its ok, but not a stunner in my book. I am enjoying it, and yes it has brought me to tears, and laughter. May be i will feel differently when I finish it.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:45:42
'Waste of £7.99.'

Was it sitting on the 3 for 2 table at Waterstone's?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ScottishMummy on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:46:08
fecking endless pages about wife willowy pallor,nape of neck etc.heavy on narrative low on story
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:46:50
Ironic that we keep bumping this thread, thus subliminally encouraging hordes of MNers to go and buy this MUST READ book... hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By blackrock on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:47:12
Thought 'The Island' was dull, dull, dull.

Also thought that about Iris Murdoch's The Sea though. It was a memorable read, but undulated gently.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ScottishMummy on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:48:00
thing is i an copious reader,and will listen to reviews/recommendation in case i miss outwink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:48:18
Holy shit, expat. In Borders - yes. I bought a Roth book, the last Rebus (I know, I know), and that! God help me. I was suckered in.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:50:09
Before this book club, I honestly did not know that loads of people read the same books. They feature on bestsellers lists and are read by everyone. Like following fashion.

It is insane. Isn't it common knowledge that these bestselling books lists are just like Top Of The Pops - catering to the lowest common denominator. Written/performed by talentless newcomers and heavily mass-marketed. Most people I associate with don't listen to shitty #1 pop songs, so it was a bit of a shock to realize that friends read these books. And enjoy them shock

Now I am really hoping none are MNers.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:53:08
The last Rebus was far better The Memory Keeper's Daughter, though.

I did a smash and grab last time I was in Waterstone's as didn't have the kids so the clock was ticking on me.

Wound up with a Richard and Judy machination, The Savage Garden, Joan Harris's debut novel (I know, I know! I blame the post-partum hormones, I had just had DS 4 weeks before) and Duma Key by Stephen King.

Duma King was the best out of the lot.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:53:49
I didn't even had the excuse of being drunk!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:54:26
Cote, I am so feeling your righteous outrage.

I feel dirty that I bought The Book Thief.

In my defence, however, and as an illustration of its general simplicity, etc., I read it in one day while bf-ing DD. Not too demanding, obviously...

Actually, that doesn't work. It makes it even more of a waste of £7.99.

Godammit.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:55:04
I read Duma Key. It was actually pretty interesting.

Compared to this lot of new generation bestseller authors, Stephen King is a damn good writer.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:55:11
Consider it the freebie in your 3 for 2, Pen. That should dull the pain.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:57:11
Penthesileia grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 02-Jan-09 22:59:02
He had a few of his cliches in there, Cote, he loves his dead children (twins, especially) but yes, I have to agree, his writing was top-notch and the story showed an originality which is sadly lacking in a lot of what is out there.

Anyone else feel rather furtive when checking out the 3 for 2 table?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Fri 02-Jan-09 23:01:27
Me, expat. They make me all hysterical - I have to find 3...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Quattrocento on Fri 02-Jan-09 23:02:13
I rather liked the Book Thief - it is fresh and original - the metaphors aren't that clunky. It's a light read for sure - in no way is the book Serious Literary Fiction - but it's none the worse for that.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 02-Jan-09 23:03:13
I always look round at the cameras, thinking, 'Bet the staff are laughing their arses off,' or I feel like picking up the 3 and going, 'Bbbbaaaaaa'.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Penthesileia on Fri 02-Jan-09 23:06:26
I occasionally think about peeling the stickers off the books on offer and sticking them on books I'd rather buy.

But I think they'd catch me at the till...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 02-Jan-09 23:07:23
Yes, they'd catch you. But they're probably at least be secretly sympathetic.

At least I only checked out 'The Abortionist's Daughter' from the library.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Fri 02-Jan-09 23:09:18
Forget "Serious Literary Fiction". The Book Thief is not even written for adults. It's a children's book.

Looking back, I read more complex and intriguing books in my teens. Even at school. Lord Of The Flies, for example.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 02-Jan-09 23:12:29
Or Heart of Darkness, which all first-time authors should be forced to study for lessons in how to tell a proper story in well under 1000 pages, how to credit your reader with an imagination and why subtlety and suggestion are art forms.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CurlyhairedAssassin on Fri 02-Jan-09 23:20:01
Oh I had forgotten how good the Secret History was! Read it years ago, and nearly died with disappointment when I struggled througn over 50 pages of the Little Friend then gave up. Did she ever write any more after that?

Memory Keeper's Daughter - wanky, Woman's Realm bag of shite. Sooooo bad. And somehow I'd actually bought 2 copies by mistake!!! grin

Loved the Time Traveller's Wife.

And loved The Post Birthday World which I first saw mentioned on here.

Currently loving The House at Riverton, again which I've heard good things about on here. Not that far in but story seems to be trying to be a bit too Ian McEwen Atonement-y?

think I will try the Book Thief next.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Fri 02-Jan-09 23:21:20
I'm guessing you only read the first page of the thread, then grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 02-Jan-09 23:23:08
'Currently loving The House at Riverton, again which I've heard good things about on here. Not that far in but story seems to be trying to be a bit too Ian McEwen Atonement-y?'

It's a rip-off of Upstairs, Downstairs, although the author admits only to being 'inspired' by the series. hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CurlyhairedAssassin on Fri 02-Jan-09 23:29:31
Was really referring to the "old lady wants to tell her deepest secret before she dies" type of idea. But yes, have also recognised Upstairs Downstairs, although never saw that series all the way through so haven't a clue if she's nicked it or not! grin Still, it's a page-turner for me. I have come to realise that whilst searching for my perfect read I am looking to recreate exactly the same feeling I used to get as a child reading an Enid Blyton blush (i.e. used to come in early from playing Kick the Can in the street with my friends just to see what happened to George and Timmy next LOL)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CurlyhairedAssassin on Fri 02-Jan-09 23:46:11
Ohhhhhh........was it the mention of [whispers] Enid Blyton that killed this thread? grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Sat 03-Jan-09 07:52:50
Nooo, I loved Enid Blyton and agree that it should be mentioned on a thread about a children's book. I read lots of his books in translation, before I learned English - so, age 8-9.

It was the time (late o'clock) that finished me off. (We are an hour ahead)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By juuule on Sat 03-Jan-09 10:30:32
I agree with katiekittlemouse.
The Book Thief is a brilliant book.
Incredibly poignant in places. As katie said unusual, harrowing, sad and in parts funny.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By janeite on Sat 03-Jan-09 15:38:04
I liked "Duma Key". Having said that, I'm now reading King's new collection of short stories atm and they're not really doing it for me tbh.

"The House At Riverton" was terrible. It was a direct rip off of "Attonement" - which was also terrible.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Sat 03-Jan-09 16:08:47
At which point does The Book Thief get "brilliant", then? Because as of page 417, it is shallow, childish, and toe-curlingly dull.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By juuule on Sat 03-Jan-09 17:14:09
Cote, I think if you've not 'got it' by now you probably aren't going to Sounds like it might not be your cup of tea.wink

In no way would I apply the adjectives that you've used in your last post to describe this book.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Sat 03-Jan-09 17:16:04
Cote, you and I appear to have similar taste in books.

I'll be giving this one a miss.

I found both 'House at Riverton' and 'Atonement' steaming piles, IYKWIM.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Sat 03-Jan-09 19:01:42
(How to put this nicely...)

I honestly do not think that this is a case of me not 'getting it'. It is as transparent and 2-dimensional a book as I've ever read (and that is against some competition).

Is there a level to this book that you feel I may have missed? An allegory perhaps? For example, you need to know that "Lord of the Flies" is the literal translation of Beelzebub (= Devil) to properly understand that book. Was there such a key to appreciating the depth of The Book Thief?

Or, is it possible that this is a simple children's book with a very simple plot and paper-thin characters?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ahfeckit on Sat 03-Jan-09 19:08:21
I started reading it 22nd dec last year and finished it Christmas Eve. Reallly enjoyed it, brilliant read.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ahfeckit on Sat 03-Jan-09 19:10:37
couldn't put the book down, it was so bloody good. and when i wasn't reading about it i was fantasising about how it would end.

will read the book again in a year's time to remind myself of how amazing a read it was!!!! grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Sat 03-Jan-09 19:24:05
Atonement was another book chosen by our book club. I didn't mind it, because Ian McEwan is a first rate author. Or possibly because previous choices were so badly written and dull.

If the writer is not great, he should have a great story. Ian McEwan doesn't have good stories (and sometimes even has no story at all, like in Saturday) but has singular insight into the human psyche. Some other authors I have read and loved are not terribly gifted, but have amazing stories to tell (like Neal Stephenson) that blow you away.

What pisses me off with pea-brained "bestseller" books like 1000 Splendid Suns and The Book Thief is that there is nothing special about the story and there is nothing special about the author. Just a lot of heart string tugging.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Sat 03-Jan-09 19:25:11
ahfeckit - Boring Xmas family get-together, eh? smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Sat 03-Jan-09 19:40:17
expat - I think you would like this book:
Miracles Of Life
J. G. Ballard

(He is the author of Empire Of The Sun and the controversial Crash and this is his autobiography)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Sat 03-Jan-09 19:53:02
Snap, Cote. I loved Empire of the Sun and Crash.

I'll reserve this one in the library when I go next week if I don't find it on the shelves.



I couldn't agree more with your philosophy, btw.

I really like Ransom, for example, because it was an intriguing and different story.

Others, the writing is just so good, it can't help win you over - The Blind Assassin, for example.

A lot of what's on the bestseller list, nowadays, however, I liken to the latest 'feel good' movie.

And I just ain't feelin' it hmm.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ahfeckit on Sat 03-Jan-09 20:39:56
t'was a tad boring at Christmas but reading that amazing book made it little less boring wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Sat 03-Jan-09 20:41:39
I'm genuinely curious. What did you think was so "amazing" about The Book Thief?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ahfeckit on Sat 03-Jan-09 20:45:58
it was set during the war, related to Nazi Germany and was beautifully written in a unique style. I liked the funny bits at the start of each chapter or throughout the chapters, written by death. it was rather amusing at times, even if the story itself was rather sad. poor Liesel was just doomed losing her mother and then her foster parents. At least Max was their for her in the end.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ahfeckit on Sat 03-Jan-09 20:47:09
there instead of their. oops blush
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Sat 03-Jan-09 21:07:49
There are only about 10,000 other novels based in Nazi Germany, so I assume you didn't feel the setting was that unique smile

Those "funny bits" really annoy me, because they make Death sound like a particularly dim 8 year old. All those lists. Here is the definition of this and that. Sky is the color of Jews. I like this color and that color. Wth? hmm You are the immortal predator, the timeless spectator of all history. And that is all you have to say?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Sat 03-Jan-09 21:10:51
Yikes. I would find this juvenile and extremely annoying, too, Cote.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TotalChaos on Sat 03-Jan-09 21:22:14
I thought that the "sky is the color of Jews" was reasonably clever writing - as referring to the smoke that came from concentration camp crematoria and would have been visible to residents of nearby areas.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By multitasker on Sat 03-Jan-09 21:25:26
Is The Blind Assasin good - I've had it on my pile to read for ages now, am in the middle of The Tennant of Wildfell Hall - got it in a library clear out for 20p!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By preggydonuts on Sat 03-Jan-09 21:26:46
I really liked the book thief and recommend it to everyone.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By janeite on Sat 03-Jan-09 21:29:03
I loved "The Tennant of Wildfell Hall". You got yourself a bragain there!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By multitasker on Sat 03-Jan-09 21:34:11
Jan - I am enjoying it and have no idea how it will all pan out.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bagsforlife on Sat 03-Jan-09 22:20:16
Still agree with Cote D'Azur, 'tis a dreadfully badly written book. Utter rubbish.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By blackrock on Sun 04-Jan-09 09:58:16
Talking in Whispers by Watson, James

Great book
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Mon 05-Jan-09 13:03:08
Just finished The Book Thief.

Worst
Book
Ever

I know it is written for teenagers, but still...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ilovelovemydog on Mon 05-Jan-09 14:54:41
Cote, did you like The Alchemist? Because I heard it was great, but must be the only person who hated it. I mean hated it...

Heard they are similar, that's all.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Mon 05-Jan-09 19:37:38
I read The Alchemist when it first came out about 15 years ago, so don't remember it in detail. A bit allegorical especially re Freemasonry, so it was a bit more interesting than the average sentimental fairy tale of the moment. From what I recall, it was full of truisms, simple words of wisdom, etc so yes it did bore me to death as well.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Mon 05-Jan-09 19:39:23
The Alchemist was better than The Book Thief, imho. At least it was written for an adult audience and had a few layers of meaning.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Thomcat on Mon 05-Jan-09 19:39:37
Oh I can't get on with The Book Thief at all. Have tried but oh no. Is it really written for teenagers? That would explain a lot.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CoteDAzur on Mon 05-Jan-09 19:41:01
Well, Amazon calls it a "young adult book".
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Thomcat on Mon 05-Jan-09 19:50:08
Interesting.
Feel better about not being able to connect with it now smile


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