Has anybody read Doctor Sleep yet?

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Started it yesterday and just finished it. Must say that I rather enjoyed it. Anybody else?

ScarerAndFuck Sat 12-Oct-13 00:28:11

I think the True Knot and steam are like Vampires and blood.

What they consume keeps them young but doesn't give them powers. Andi had her powers already and was somehow converted to become True. Rose hints that the same happened to her many years before in Ireland.

There must have been some original True to turn the others but that wasn't explained and I would have liked to know who was the first. Perhaps that's another book.

mignonette Fri 11-Oct-13 19:25:55

Laqueen I think you might need to watch The Shining first as otherwise it may not make so much sense. I didn't find The Shining especially scary but I may well be in the minority.

mignonette Fri 11-Oct-13 19:24:55

Yes King was a bit vague about how/why they became True Knot. Maybe they'll appear in another book?

He only said that they had always existed. They did target some people with special abilities- the girl found putting men to sleep to rob them was one they absorbed into their tribe. But they needed steam once they were initiated to stop them from ageing and dying. Steam kept them young and came from the dying breath of civilians with the Shining. I think the True Knot used this as 'food' allowing them to maintain their abilities. I don't think Steam gave them special powers other than eternal youth.

valiumredhead Fri 11-Oct-13 17:56:11

Oh great, will watch that over the weekend, thanksthanks

LaQueenForADay Fri 11-Oct-13 17:41:29

Yes, I got that mig - but how come the True Knot had special abilities? It wasn't explained whether they'd always had them, or whether it was a result of them taking steam?

I think King was too vague about them.

I will check out Room 237 on YouTube. Thanks. It's not scarey though is it, I have never dared watch the film.

mignonette Fri 11-Oct-13 17:39:02

The people had the shine or some other ability and True Knor hunted them down to either use their ability or to consume it.

Room 237 is on Youtube in installments LaQueen. Well worth watching. Some of the theories are far out but intelligently argued.

LaQueenForADay Fri 11-Oct-13 17:28:35

I wasn't quite sure...were the people of the True Knot, people with shine but who had gone bad?

Is Room 237 on YouTube mig ?

mignonette Fri 11-Oct-13 17:21:17

For fans of the film of 'The Shining' (definitely not Steven King) can I recommend the documentary into the possible references etc inserted by Kubrick into this film?

It's called 'Room 237' and it is brilliant. Watched it a few days ago and boy does it make you see the film in a new way.

ScarerAndFuck Fri 11-Oct-13 17:04:23

I found it to be less dark than The Shining, and a bit more of a people pleaser type story (in that what I was expecting to happen didn't happen but probably should have).

I enjoyed the book and thought that the True Knot were interesting. I would have liked to know more about how they came to be. And perhaps more about Rose's past as well.

mignonette Fri 11-Oct-13 15:20:28

Yes it was less dense I agree. I wanted to know how the first True Knot became the True Knot. I felt there was a hint of the darkness within man (Original sin) and our rejecting of it in the way he described the True Knot as always having been with us but outside of us. The idea that evil has an everyday face (The elderly RVers) and goes amongst us.

I did get tearful at the end and during the Hospice death scenes. I am also pleased that King made it clear just how much Danny had been damaged by his childhood (who wouldn't be?) rather than writing a character who had brushed it off. The reappearance of Dick Halloran was wonderful-like meeting up with an old friend. I would love to know even more about him and appreciated the little bits of his life that King gave us. Also the idea that his Mother Wendy had to bear some responsibility for Danny's trauma at the hands of his Father was suggested even though 'The Shining' made it cloear how limited her options were- no money, no family, living in a time when finding work was hard for anybody let alone a single Mother.

LaQueenForADay Fri 11-Oct-13 15:09:43

I quite enjoyed it, is started very promisingly - but felt it a bit on the light weight side?

Was very touched that Danny's father appeared at the end, to help his son.

Would have liked more background history on the True Knot e.g. why were they like they were, what were their personal histories etc.

mignonette Tue 08-Oct-13 23:27:59

I hated the True Knot murder of the little boy and found that very hard to read (His hoarse little voice). The denouement between Rose and Abra fizzled out a little bit but I did find the actual ending moving and it did trigger a few tears.

mirandawitch Tue 08-Oct-13 23:25:25

I've waited until I finished the book to post, dying to know what others thought.

I didn't like all that 'Rose the Hat' and the True Knot. Not sure they were adequately creepy villains next to the seemingly invincible Aphra. Some other niggles too, but overall the story opens up really well, and I found it a well-written, enjoyable read.

pointythings Sun 06-Oct-13 18:24:04

It's sitting beside me even now - I let DH have it first because I am incredibly wonderfully generous and unselfish. He loved it. I am looking forward to reading it.

valiumredhead Sun 06-Oct-13 17:17:25

Ok, thanks!grin

mignonette Sun 06-Oct-13 15:10:51

Yes I thought it was worth the price. I will re read it again and I paid 9,99 for it from WH Smith. Have loaned it to DD now.

valiumredhead Sun 06-Oct-13 15:01:05

Was just about to start a thread and ask if it's worth paying 7'99 on kindlegrin

chipsandpeas Sun 06-Oct-13 11:32:25

im in the middle of reading it and its been ok so far just at chapter 10 i think when its in 2004

samu2 Sun 06-Oct-13 11:20:56

I loved it.

Really no reason to re-read The Shining unless you want to. All you need to remember is that Danny has The Shining.

Very different to The Shining, works well as a stand alone book too.

I really enjoyed it.

CoteDAzur Sat 05-Oct-13 09:12:23

I'm looking forward to reading Dr Sleep but I will re-read The Shining first.

Have seen/heard a few duff reviews tbh.
Yes to re-reading The Shining first, if it's been a long time.

mignonette Tue 01-Oct-13 17:52:24

It might help if you reallly cannot recall much of it MrsDavidBowie although SK writes the sequel so skillfully though that it jogs your memory without feeling as though chunks of 'The Shining' have been either C&Ped or rehashed. Danny's memories are very subtly woven in, appearing a natural part of the new story.

MrsDavidBowie Tue 01-Oct-13 17:47:48

Should I reread The Shining first?
Can't remember too much about it.

mignonette Tue 01-Oct-13 17:46:26

I won't spoil it other than to say that I had tears running down my face by the end.

And King has nothing to worry about regarding the reviews- they have all been great (especially the Guardian) and I appreciated the chance to find out what happened to Danny and Mr Hallorann.

When you've all finished, will return to properly worship at the feet of Mr King!. I'm now going to re-read The Shining, The Dead Zone and 11/63

Wouldn't dream of spoiling it! Danny is grown up and battling alcoholism. His shining still works and he 'meets' a girl with super-strong shining - together they battle evil. That's all! smile

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