how come nobody has bought Rowling's new book?

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went into town at 4pm after work, thinking 'shame, they'll all be gone' only to find that every shop had them discounted - a tenner in Waterstones! HMV had piles of them and I gave in and bought one in Tescos for £9 - what happened there then?

mrsshackleton Fri 09-Nov-12 10:42:00

I'm sure the book is selling, all big retailers discount big name books. Also, it will be selling hugely on Kindle.

Whether people like it or not is a different thing

NicknameTaken Fri 09-Nov-12 10:37:08

Just finished it. I didn't dislike it (lukewarm praise indeed!) I can get behind her moral purpose, the idea that it's all very easy to sneer at the poor and excluded for not improving themselves, but they can be struggling under immense burdens and just about holding on. The portrayal of Terri was, to me, very poignant. I also thought the portrayal of domestic violence was very convincing, including the way the mother tries to put the best light on it to her sons.

But it's a hard book to really warm too. All that relentless unhappiness. I also find there is something a bit paint-by-numbers about her characters - they don't really strike me as fully rounded and convincing people.

lingle Tue 30-Oct-12 12:30:17

"I almost gave up after about 100pp - being a bit middle class and provincial myself, I've never felt an author hated me, personally, quite so much "

LOL wildpig, I know what you mean, I think she has been living in my home town in secret.

I know all the characters, save for the teenage boys - they all live within a mile of me.

I can be Barry with kids I think - I think it's because I had a slightly shitty childhood - but sadly have Howard and Shirley tendencies in the rest of my life.

I have personal experience of the equivalent of the coaching-the-rowing thing and yes, I know the author is preaching but I totally understand why Barry had photos of the rowing team up on his wall.

wildfig Mon 29-Oct-12 23:40:15

I almost gave up after about 100pp - being a bit middle class and provincial myself, I've never felt an author hated me, personally, quite so much - but by the end I was completely absorbed in that world. The lack of one properly sympathetic character was a problem, though; when so much of the cast is broadly loathesome, it doesn't give the reader much incentive to invest emotionally in the novel and get through the opening chapters, which are largely scene-setting.

She does really hate fat people though.

Woozley Thu 25-Oct-12 19:10:11

I thought she was at first (the big boobs = early sexual activity thing really irked me) but I can see she may develop into a more sympathetic character.

blimey yes, forgot the awful dialect (only the council house people spoke like that tho?). Krystal etc was a dreadful steroetype.

Woozley Tue 23-Oct-12 12:59:40

I bought it. I hated it through the first four chapters, but it has just started to get more interesting. Very character led and slow to start with, and I thought it was all going to be full of trite stereotypes, but now I am starting to get that it is more than that, and one to stick with, I think.

FellatioNelson Tue 23-Oct-12 12:55:54

Oh FFS. hmm

phrasing that is outdated

hard to convey an accent

FellatioNelson Tue 23-Oct-12 12:54:36

I've just read it. I really liked it. My only bugbear was that she doesn't write working class dialogue terribly convincingly, but then it was set in the West Country somewhere, and my grasp of West Country working class vernacular is not that great so perhaps she has it right after all. It just didn't read convincingly to me. Having said that, I find that very few writers really get working class dialects spot on, and they use phrasing that it outdated, or just not geographically appropriate. But it's pretty hard to convert an accent in writing anyway. I also thought that she was a little overly reliant on stereotypes, and stereotypical scenarios, but on the whole I really enjoyed it. It was all about the characters and the relationships between them, rather than plot driven.

Blimey! That is quick. I guess maybe she felt it was a really valid social comment cumfy ...

evenkeel Tue 23-Oct-12 09:38:53

Chipping in to note that I saw a copy of 'The Casual Vacancy' in a local charity shop yesterday. Can't recall ever having seen a much-hyped hardback (indeed, one of the most-plugged ever) falling from grace so spectacularly and so quickly after publication.

It'll be in all the remainder shops soon methinks.

cumfy Mon 22-Oct-12 15:36:53

JK is clearly intelligent.

So why do you think she was so determined about publishing this clearly sub-standard work ?

Don't know why anybody else has or hasn't bought it, but I am boycotting it because of the appalling treatment of her translators:

"The upcoming book is due to have 480 pages. Translators may not see it before it is published. (Usually translators can prepare by reading preliminary texts in advance.) The translator has to agree, sight unseen, to turn in the finished copy in three weeks, by October 18, in time for release for Christmas sales. That’s 23 pages of polished final text every day for 21 days – without time to read the book beforehand!"

Source

? Mrs richards ?

MrsKeithRichards Sat 13-Oct-12 11:07:21

I'm glad someone else picked up on the twattish behaviour of controlling a child's reading and shoving your views upon them.

Jux Fri 12-Oct-12 10:07:23

Yes, Diana Wynne Jones is a fabulous writer, same genre but infinitely more inventive, and well written.

Greencolorpack, they're all still available, so you don't need to yearn for them!

I can't imagine reading HP again now dd has grown out of it.

Trudi Canavan wrote better with her magicians guild books.

Chopstheduck Fri 12-Oct-12 07:52:33

Because it's easy enough to go online and download it for free wink

I've started it. It's not compelling enough to drag me away from mumsnet keep me that interested, not bothered finishing it yet.

Valdeeves Fri 12-Oct-12 07:34:46

I don't think anybody could write Harry Potter and I think her writing style and use of dialogue are very good. If anybody could write it why haven't they?
Fair enough it's not War and Peace but it has a great plot which takes everybody back to Enid Blyton style books.

Finished it, very disappointed. Social comment by numbers.

Omg I am having trouble getting thro this!
Sooooooo hard like wading through porridge.

saffronwblue Thu 04-Oct-12 00:39:13

I just finshed TCV. I made myself finish it despite the dull writing and the singularly unappealing characters.
I am a fan of the HP books. I know they aren't perect but my DC have had so much pleasure from them and I found them fun and sometimes very moving. The sense of heart and love in the HP series is completely missing in TCV. Nasty cardboard cut out characters going through the motions.
And I paid full price!

well, i was enjoying it but am getting a bit bogged down by the writing. its a bit ploddy in places like eating a really doughy scone.

DisorderlyNights Sun 30-Sep-12 23:07:36

Enjoying the pedantry on this thread!

I'm a huge fan of HP. Yes the writing is generally functional and sometimes clunky, but the plotting is close to peerless. The amount of Chekov's guns and the mastery in how they're used in later books is amazing.
There's that saying about character's to love, plot to excite, great writing. Having two of the three makes up for the other one, and HP has the first two in spades.

Which is why, based on the reviews, I won't be buying a hb copy of the CV. I'll get one from a charity shop later on.

Saying that, I very much admire Rowling for not sticking to what she knows already.
She could have played it safe.

TunipTheVegemal Sun 30-Sep-12 11:05:01

According to the Times today it has exceeded sales expectations for the first few days.

The only thing I'm not getting so far is the huge amount of interest in the parish council vacancy, and the slightly cartoon like characters - the very huge deli owner etc. Also a bit of stereotyping - can't tell if she is taking the p*ss out of middle class attitudes to council estates or if she thinks that's what they are like? Kind of what pov is the story told from?

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