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Mumsnet Discussions: Adoptions : I NEVER thought anyone with half a brain would really think this but... (51 messages)
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Kewcumber on Fri 10-Oct-08 23:50:06
My mum had lunch today with an old friend who knows me quite well. For anyone who doesn't know DS was adopted at 11 months from a Ruusian speaking area of Kazakhstan.

He is nearly three now.

She asked after us both then said "how is Kewcumbers DS? Can he speak English?"

Not "can he talk yet" or "is his speech delayed" (I don't think such things occured to her) - she genuinely seemed to think that when he started talking he would speaking Russian! TWo years after he last heard any! Do people really think this - am I being naive at thinking its a ridiculous question?!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By handlemecarefully on Fri 10-Oct-08 23:52:58
It is a ridiculous question. Maaaaan! - that woman is thick!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hatrick on Fri 10-Oct-08 23:57:22
Crikey- very amusing thing to think.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Kewcumber on Fri 10-Oct-08 23:59:00
am glad its not just me then - my jaw dropped. Then thought maybe I'm too close to it and perhaps it was a reasonable thing to think!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By thumbwitch on Fri 10-Oct-08 23:59:12
oh Kewc, it never ceases to amaze me the depths of ignorance that some people can sink to! OTOH, she probably thought she was doing really well to remember that he wasn't an English boy to start with! <sigh>
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By NappiesLaGore on Sat 11-Oct-08 00:04:56
no its a v thick question. utterly bizarre.
and i thought my brain was mush...hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Kewcumber on Sat 11-Oct-08 00:13:16
in fact she would probably have had a heart attack if she met him because he has a very cute BBC accent! Unless he's saying "Hebby Cobble" grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Kewcumber on Sat 11-Oct-08 00:13:35
(helicopter)
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By thumbwitch on Sat 11-Oct-08 00:15:30
people do think strange things though - I remember being in a restaurant in France once and there was a mynah bird in a cage there who said "Bonjour!" and I remember thinking "Wow! How clever is that bird, it can speak French!!" blush
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By stepfordwife on Sat 11-Oct-08 00:21:10
bizarre indeed, kew.....
still suffering from insomnia then? grin
(you, that is, not the english-speaking ds)
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Flibbertyjibbet on Sat 11-Oct-08 00:22:09
Its a ridiculous question but it just shows how ridiculous some people are!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Kewcumber on Sat 11-Oct-08 00:24:29
god steppie - so tires I could drop but just can;t switch off!

We're milling around at home in teh morning to recharge if you want a coffee...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By stepfordwife on Sat 11-Oct-08 00:31:25
what a pain..
you're on!
will have ds1 with me if that's OK
am threatening to drag him into london shopping for lights shock
so a caffeine fix first would be fab (for me) and he'd love to see your ds
what time does kewcumber towers open for cawfeeeee?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Kewcumber on Sat 11-Oct-08 00:33:27
any time you like if you're prepared for the mess! We're generally up and about by 8am. Would be nice to see DS1 on his own for a change.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By stepfordwife on Sat 11-Oct-08 00:39:15
the only mess i notice is a messy mind, so no need to fret (pet)
when you say it'll be nice to see ds1 by himself, you do realise he'll have his adult ligger in tow, too? grin

say about 9.45-10ish?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Kewcumber on Sat 11-Oct-08 00:47:01
time fine but I guess you're insisting on coming too then?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By stepfordwife on Sat 11-Oct-08 00:49:13
'fraid so....
grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Sat 11-Oct-08 14:51:05
That's so funny. grin Did she pull herself together and realise that it was a completely silly question and feel a bit of a fool? grin I'm sure I've had equally 'vacant' moments.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By BecauseImAWitch on Sat 11-Oct-08 14:53:42
Well - we were talking about our recent holiday in Australia, which was in August, their winter, and we were asked "oh, so were you there for Christmas?" !!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Sat 11-Oct-08 15:04:24
Actually, I've had a surprising number of comments that make me LOL. For instance I was talking with my cousin about DS shooting up and telling DS that he would be tall when he's an adult, and my cousin said "well both you and DH are tall so he probably will be". I usually wait a beat or two and then say "You do remember he was adopted and there's no genetic link, don't you?" with a quizzical look. grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By BecauseImAWitch on Sat 11-Oct-08 15:10:24
(OMG I thought you were talking about your DS doing drugs! blush)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By JJ on Sat 11-Oct-08 15:14:06
I've had a brain fart like that before*, though. She might not have been thinking and realised later what a ridiculous question it is.

*I asked my husband's twin sister when her birthday is.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Sat 11-Oct-08 15:15:04
shock Now that you mention it I see that it is shockingly badly phrased. Obviously I meant shooting up like a bamboo/sunflower/other lovely thing that grows in spurts. Sorry. smile He's only 4, I'm hoping for a few more years before having to deal with any thorny drink/drug issues.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By BecauseImAWitch on Sat 11-Oct-08 15:15:46
grin I hope so!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Kewcumber on Sat 11-Oct-08 20:18:49
I think its always possible that it was just a vacant moment (and yes we've had all them) but hearing my mum - I really don't think so I think she was really thought he would start speaking Russian and would then later (at some future uinknown point grin) start learning English. Maybe I should enrole him an "English as a foreign language" course grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Sat 11-Oct-08 20:23:45
We should start a "stupid questions I have asked" thread. The first time I saw the traffic light sculpture by Canary Wharf I asked my brother how he know when it was his turn to go. He answered in a scathing tone "It's a sculpture on a roundabout, I go when there's a gap in the traffic". grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By nickytwoooohtimes on Sat 11-Oct-08 20:25:16
PMSL at this.
DH ended himself.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Kewcumber on Sat 11-Oct-08 20:35:10
I once was looking at a list of the worlds largest companies in the Financial times (bear in mind here that I am a financedirector - makes the comment about a zillion times denser)

Top company was a Japanese one I hadn;t heard of so looked under "Category" to see what they did = Umbrella. "How odd " I said ALOUD - the worlds biggest company makes unbrellas. blush

Someone very kindly explained it meant covering a multitude of industries rather than a ginormous umbrella manufacturer to the universe whilst the rest of my colleagues lay on the floor wetting themselves and doing deep-breathing exercises to control themselves.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By FreakyLadyFrightALot on Sat 11-Oct-08 20:36:38
kind of really doesn't surprise me...had some recently ask me if I was sure that I really was german....and not maybe from newzealand/australia, south africa or netherlands instead...because my accent wasn't german...reassure her I was sure of where I came from...person percepered, asking me then, but maybe in the past, etc...hmm....yup that rally would have made a lot of difference., because, of course language is passed down by genes....erm....lol....not...

however, I do think that, even in earlist childhood we will learn language to some extent, and presumably birht parents spoke in thei mothertongue, your child may well find they remember some words or others in the future....but only maybe...
of course....
still, when a child actually learns language, then I would think they learn the language they actually hear at the time...iykwim....
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Sat 11-Oct-08 20:37:44
Ohhh, your's is much more embarassing than mine. grin Although I should perhaps mention that I had been around the roundabout twice, once when I was driving, before I asked my question.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Sat 11-Oct-08 20:39:33
(Please ignore the errant apostrophe. blush)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ConnorTraceptive on Sat 11-Oct-08 20:40:30
People are riduculous sometimes. My (white) friend adopted a little girl from swazi and was once asked "Is her father black?"
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Lemontart on Sat 11-Oct-08 20:45:47
LOL that is really funny grin
I dated a guy at University who had never ever eaten a doughnut... because he doesn’t like nuts grin Honest to God, he really thought they had nuts in them. We didn’t date for long....
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MingMingtheWonderPet on Sat 11-Oct-08 20:53:26
What I can't believe is that it has been nearly 2 years since you adopted your DS. That time has sped by.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By WinkyWinkola on Sat 11-Oct-08 20:56:44
This happens a lot. My dad's GF is about to become a grandmother to a little girl adopted from Thailand. A baby. The GF is learning Thai not to make sure that the baby keeps in touch with her culture but so that she'll understand her grandma when she talks. My dad had to gently explain that a child brought up by English speakers will more than likely speak English. Dearie me.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Sobernow on Sat 11-Oct-08 21:49:25
I am a very intelligent person.

My house number is 96.

I went into a hardware shop a few months ago to buy numbers for our front door and asked for a 9 and a 6. (you can start laughing here if you want, everyone I've told so far has...)

Shop assistant: We haven't got any 9s, we've got plenty of 6s

Me: That's no good to me, I need a 9 and a 6.

SA: Why don't you just get two 6s?

Me: Yes well if I lived at No 66 I would!

Pause

Me: Er..I see what you mean blush
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By choccynutter on Sat 11-Oct-08 21:53:31
er well durr very thick lol
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By FreakyLadyFrightALot on Sat 11-Oct-08 21:58:06
lol
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By roisin on Sat 11-Oct-08 21:58:22
Kewcumber - shockingly dim thing for your friend to say, but then some people are and some people do.

I remember reading your blogs from Kazakhstan at the time and just had a sneak look on your profile. Your ds is gorgeous. I love the latest photo: what a sweetie.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ILikeYourSleeves on Sat 11-Oct-08 22:00:22
I was adopted at age 5 months & I am mixed race- my mum was often stopped and asked if I could speak English! Helllooooooooo hmm

So there are a LOT of thick people out there!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By onepieceoflollipop on Sat 11-Oct-08 22:04:25
Your mother's friend does sound a little dim.

We took our dd to America when she was 17 months old at a time she was learning a lot of new words. Strangely enough she kept her English accent (we were only in the States for 10 days btw)

My mum has a stepsister and loads of people say how alike I am to my step aunt...helloooo.... we are not related in that way!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By JackieNoHeadJustABloodyStump on Sat 11-Oct-08 22:31:58
Lol, Kewcumber. Mind you, I have moments like that too grin.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By misspollysdolly on Sat 11-Oct-08 22:40:54
People do ask or assume some really daft things, don't they!! Especially if things get clouding by adoption stuff. My DD was scalded at 22 months and has quite a lot of very visible scarring. She's 9 now and last summer after years of her ears being gummed with glue ear we could no longer stand the deafness, repeating ourselves and raised voices so she had grommets put in. The number of people who made ridiculous comments in which they desperately tried to make some connection between her burn injury and apparently related deafness quite baffled me. I could hardly contain my 'disbelief at your thickness' look whenever someone said to me 'Oh, so is her deafness anything to do with her scald?' Duh!!! Just so annoying that you have to keep giving the same explanation to people all the time and that everyone thinks life follows an entirely linear path...!
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That should've been 'clouded' blush. Sorry.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By misspollysdolly on Sat 11-Oct-08 22:48:43
bran - have just looked at the piccie of the roundabout 'art'...tee hee!! grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Kewcumber on Sat 11-Oct-08 23:03:51
I have actually been lucky with not too many dim adoption comments so far - lots and lots of a "what do you know about his birth parents" from virtual strangers "right because I'm really going to share that information with a casual acquaintance in M&S coffee shop before my son even has a chance to know" is of course what I don't reply ("Not much" generally suffices!).

Most people don't like to assume he is adopted in case my absent partner is asian/oriental.. however the corker in hospital was from the batty old lady in the bed opposite starting with...

"Is he your grandson?" shock particularly as my mum was with me at the time (lord knows how she thought I/she both were.

KC smiles sweetly "no, my son"

"ooh yes now you say that I can see the resemblance" grin

"no you can't you daft old bat"

My mums friend however is neither particularly old not particularly batty - just a bit dim I think...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By nooka on Sat 11-Oct-08 23:06:51
I wonder if the friend just lost track of time? My parent's friends often think my children are much much younger than they are, indeed I do this with their children too, because I have an image in my head of them, and it hasn't grown up, although the child in question obviously has. If they were thinking of you adopting very recently still then it's not such an unreasonable thought.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By snowleopard on Sat 11-Oct-08 23:14:59
When a friend of mine went to the US, he met people who asked him where he was from and he said "England". They responded with "Wow, where did you learn such good English?"

That beats your mum's dim friend I think. Duuurrrr!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Kewcumber on Sat 11-Oct-08 23:19:45
nooka - I could charitably had interpreted it that way, of course. I ammore inclined however (knowing the person) that she is just being a tad vacant [vacant).

Snowleopard grin - you win!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By PortAndDemon on Fri 24-Oct-08 15:41:54
I got asked three times when I was in Oklahoma what language we spoke in England...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Bubbaluv on Fri 24-Oct-08 15:53:49
My friend is a dog trainer and got a call from a woman who thought her dog couldn't understand her becuase the dog was a GERMAN shepherd! Truly!
Another great one was, when skiing with a friend and going up the chair lift she said "Why does the chair lift come back down, when everyone skis down?" OMG!


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