Lowering a BMI!!!!

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OK, it's official, this little greyhound is less whippet

www.petwave.com/Dogs/Dog-Breed-Center/Hound-Group/Whippet/Appearance.aspx

and more whipped cream!

coleensrecipes.blogspot.co.uk/2009/11/peanut-butter-chocolate-dessert-with.html

My lovely social worker has pointed out my BMI is a bit high and asked what I think I can do about it. I said lower it. Of course. But it is actually quite hard. I have taken up running and Taekwan-do but I also love my food.

Please inspire me if you were also advised to lower the dreaded BMI and how you did it, please.

Thanks so much.

LittleMissDisorganized Sat 12-Apr-14 16:00:05

Oh right, my experience in the NHS is to use the cut off of 35. It's fairly arbitrary I suppose... horrible term though, horrible thing to face up to. I shall un-label myself though, thank you Italian.
It was impacting my quality of life certainly - I have a long way to go, but having found something sustainable is wonderful and probably a habit for life. It's was also significant in my relationship with God, to tease out what in my eating issues are really idolatry issues, or sinfulness. Definitely life changing.

LittleMissDisorganized thanks for sharing. I am so pleased for you. You said you were morbidly obese and having now got a BMI of 33 (from 37).

www.urmc.rochester.edu/highland/departments-centers/bariatrics/right-for-you/morbid-obesity.aspx

"An individual is considered morbidly obese if he or she is 100 pounds over his/her ideal body weight, has a BMI of 40 or more, or 35 or more and experiencing obesity-related health conditions, such as high blood pressure or diabetes."

Your BMI wasn't 40 or more so I am guessing you had other factors. It is so brilliant that you have got such a good result. Well done.

LittleMissDisorganized Mon 07-Apr-14 11:36:53

Italian I've been meaning to post on this thread since I read it months ago...
I know what you mean about it being almost entirely in your head and if you don't address that then the weight loss is unsustainable.
I put on 3 stone last year - I was already in the overweight category - taking me into the morbidly obese category. Admittedly it was a year in which I had to say goodbye to DD, and I was aware over the weeks before and afterwards that I was using food to cope with that but as I was at least not drinking, at less than a year sober, I let it be. And I had two lots of major, immobilising surgery.
So this year one of my two NY resolutions was to lose that 3 stone. I read around a lot and have gone for Low Carb because it really addresses the addictive nature of sugar and why we can't just eat one, and satiety and how we ignore it, etc. (I've joined the threads on here to do it) I've lost 23lb, and I'm still pretty immobile. Exercise plays very little role in weight loss, when it comes down to the science. Vital for our overall wellbeing, but not a big determinant of weight. That was news to me.

It's almost like a second sobriety - because withdrawing sugar (which is what complex carbs are broken down to) means that I am not papering over my feelings, I stop when I'm full, I enjoy my food, and I am moving better, having now got a BMI of 33 (from 37). Prior to the last couple of years, I was maybe overweight with a BMI of 26-28 but nothing like I have put myself through. I don't want to live with the excuses about it and settle my head into thinking that's the way I am.

Anyway, I know you have found a good path for you, and some great ideas, I just wanted to share my path so far this year in the hope it might help someone else.

Good news Tinkerbell.

tinkerbellpixie Sat 05-Apr-14 17:37:40

Well, back on the way on this week, Dp has cycled shifted more crap and stripped the wallpaper off our new bedroom wall.
Me I went riding again, and I loved it plus a walk into the village, and I will be going home to play on the Wii

Super happy last night, managed to opt for a pear instead of a packet of crisps after dinner. Then as I bit into that pear I got that grainy clunky pain where you bite into something hard! Ow. Luckily, saw dentist today and tooth is fine. (Already had appointment for filling).

Anyway, thought I would share one thing my counsellor did for me.

At the start of our sessions I explained that for me I often felt the need to finish off any food, even if I did not like it! Be it a meal or a bar of chocolate. An open packet of biscuits or a large order of something was almost impossible to leave uneaten for me!

So, my counsellor gave me a packet of chocolates at the first session and asked me to only eat one a day. I managed to eat just two that first week and made the bag last three weeks! Now whenever I think I can't do resist food, I remember those chocolates and I know I can!

I think it is thinking about food, and taking food (buying it or ordering it etc that leads to eating it!). For me it is often my hands as well as my mouth that are the problem, my hands bring the food to my mouth! Actually it is the brain that starts it all off! Which is why I feel being in a good emotional place is so helpful.

This makes me laugh, because it is so true of so many of us....

www.traileraddict.com/over-the-hedge/humans-and-food

mummymamaandme of course you may join us, please do. Congratulations on the fabulous weight loss.

I am feeling so much better. Trying to eat more fruit and veg, trying to take less food when at the canteen at work etc. I am getting a real buzz when the server tries to offer me more spaghetti, cous cous or whatever, I am saying that's enough before they offer me a full big serving! In the past I always got as much as I could and always ate it all, and sometimes wanted more!

I also tried on some stretchy trousers in a size smaller than my usual one and they were too big!

I feel very good but I know support is vital so that you lovely ladies (are we all female here?? with mumsnet you never know!) for your support.

mummymamaandme Wed 02-Apr-14 21:15:25

Can I join you please?
We were deferred in Dec but approved last week.
I have lost 31lbs since January, I fell off the wagon last week but back on it now and looking forward to the next 31 smile
I'm using my fitness pal and good old fashioned excersise.
I did lighter life many years ago and lost four stone but ended up really ill and needing surgery, so wanted to take it slow this time.

The work based Christian counsellor who is giving me CBT type counselling is working brilliantly! I feel so much better.

tinkerbellpixie good news, keep going, and tell DH to keep going.

tinkerbellpixie Sun 23-Mar-14 18:37:50

I am still here, Dp weighs 163.3 kg so Bmi of 51!!! So it is coming down we are on a slow road down stage 1 again but we like slow as gives us more of a chance to prove we can do it

I am very lucky that my workplace provides counselling for free, for which I am eternally grateful.

Exactly crafty, I do also feel you need to do it for you, for your future. As Kristina says kids need a lot of energy even when older. But most of all we all want to live a long and healthy and active life, don't we!

If there are any issues that are making you overeat I would really recommend getting some help in the form of counselling if you can, you GP may be able to help or you may have to pay. My overeating is the result of OCD when I was younger. I lost the OCD but started over eating!

craftycreator Fri 28-Feb-14 14:59:35

Italiangreyhound - I can and today after a good nights sleep am feeling more determined than ever. That emotion has been turned into postive energy and I'm motivated :-) onwards and upwards.

What more motivation do I need than to give a loving, caring and stable home to a little one who if I don't do this might not have the chance at that xx

KristinaM Fri 28-Feb-14 09:14:59

Hi Italian yes I am still lurking

Congratulations to those who are getting healthier and shedding those pounds /exercising

I am very sympathetic to those of you struggling with weight issues, as my DH is in the same situation . I worry all the time about his health.

Which is why I am a bit hmm about people who say

" oh yes, I know I am morbidly obese but I have lots of energy "

It's kind of missing the point. You are storing up serious health problems for the future and you need to still be healthy when you children are teenagers, they need you even more then. I'm sorry, I know it's hard to hear this.

Kitty -I am curious too as to how you can have a massively high BMI and still be a size 8-10. Even female body builders usually only weigh 130-140lbs, ( more is they are very tall obv) which doesn't put them in high BMI ranges. It's well acknowledged that BMI isn't a good indicator of healthy weight for serious athletes.

Look at these women here -they are very fit but still not heavy www.bodybuilding.com/fun/fitness-360.html

Crafty you can do this, make this your goal. Find your inspiration. Whatever works for you. Good luck.

craftycreator Thu 27-Feb-14 12:35:53

Hiya

Well done all on the weight loss and commitments made so far, your all doing excellently xxx

Im still here. Have lost 7lbs in the last 4 weeks.

Had an initial visit this morning from the LA, they are giving us six months to prove our weight loss. They have said DH has to loose 3-4 stone and I need to get my BMI as close to 35 as possible. Everything else is in their words 'perfect for adoption' just not our weight. Im gutted we've got to go another six months before we can move any further forward!

Crafty xx

Great news, have started counselling for weight issues and it is helping. Very pleased.

Kristina, Crafty, * crazeekitty*, and tinkerbellpixie are you still looking in?

Well done tinkerbellpixie good news.

tinkerbellpixie Wed 05-Feb-14 09:10:51

Hypnosis into positive thinking so I will achieve my goal, dp has cut the crap food and cycling in the evenings. I have increased my exercise although not been on the Wii for a week due to some health problems.
I am also doing weight watchers as well and consistently loosing 1-2 pounds a week.

Had a new counselling session this week. Really helpful. Feeling a whole lot better.

I absolutely think getting at the causes will help the eating.

crazeekitty Wed 29-Jan-14 12:28:26

Thank you. That helps to understand. I'll try and see it through different eyes.

Unfortunately for dd she has so many issues that help for eating wouldn't solve the underlying causes. What she really needs is a more understanding mummy, but I'm trying. She would say I'm very trying. Ha!

Crazeekitty you said Can you explain them to me please? I really really need to understand it better. Well in one sense I can and in one sense I can't! Because we are all different and it may well depend on your child and her experiences.

Sadly, I think overeating in children might be something that could be sparked by a lot of things and please do not reveal information about your DD here because I don't want you to out yourself!

So for example living with a very poor diet of junk food, fats and sugar etc may well mean a child expects those foods, find comfort in those foods and wants them. I have had some success in eating more things like celery and red apples (both really juicy and crunchy) which I now totally love.

Also, for example kids who were deprived of food might feel they will never be full of never be fed enough. So hoard food and might not feel safe if they do not have good in the house, their bag or whatever.

If the problems are the former then you may just find a dietician who can help and maybe also someone (like Tanya Byron for toddlers and young children) or a book or website that helps.

This website may be useful, I really don't know...

kidshealth.org/kid/feeling/

On a basic level food and comfort are linked for us as babies, we feel hungry and mum or someone else feeds us and maybe cuddles us and we feel warm, loved and well fed, so as we get older and things get hard what could take away the sad feelings like food! I am just guessing why people over eat.

My reasons are probably quite complex, but I think that some of the things that I have just said would tick some boxes for me.

Also as a teenager I had OCD (I didn't really know why I had it and it was not that bad). I did not get any help for it and in my twenties it stopped and the over eating started. Over the years I had some success at weight loss and the weight has not gone up and up as it does with some people. It has fluctuated a bit. The problem was one of over eating and sometimes actually not enjoying what I ate. I would say that I had a problem with Impulsive eating rather than compulsive eating.

Over the last three years I have had some help to work on the problems related to food rather than just trying to lose weight. As crfaty says fatter people know all about weight loss and healthy eating!

If your DD has a problem can you get some specialist help from adoption services?

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