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Surely, SS getting involved leads to adoption????????

hmmmmmmmm? figues and targets need to be met. Are you really wearing blinkers?

please see my prev thread. John Hemming springs to mind

Brokenheartedmum

Are you the OP with a namechange?

brokenheartedmum are you the op?.

You have posted several quite inflammatory comments on both the fostering and adoption boards this morning. You are clearly hurting a lot but directing your anger at carers and adoptors wont help.
I am really sorry for what has happened to you. Are you getting support in RL?.

most children taken from their parents by ss are adopted through lies and false reports from so called experts chosen by the ss

" brokenheartedmum

Surely, SS getting involved leads to adoption???"

Go away, learn the basics about what social workers do and then come back. You are truly ignorant"

FivesAndNorks ss getting involved does mean adoption most of the time. my previous comment is wrong as i read your comment wrong

you are the one who needs to learn what really happens.

the truth about the ss and their adoption targets will come out at some point just like its come out that certain experts used by ss for there reports are unquailfied and have been found to be writing reports that are false and corrispond with whatever the sw has said.

lots have been found to be false and at least one expert is being taken to court forthe said false court reports in favour of ss

Ok. I've worked alongside sws, in a performance management capacity. As far as I could tell their priorities, which were set right from the top were - do what's best for the child and - where possible, keep families together.

Just going on what I've seen, but if you have evidence of a huge conspiracy please do link to it.

Ss getting involved does mean adoption most of the time does it?

Care to look at stats on children in need, children subject to cpps and looked after children and then come back and give me an actual percentage, which will no doubt be higher than 50?

Bear in mind social workers almost never get right of reply, as they have to protect confidentiality. And do what's best for the child.

Ok ill do it

395,300 children became in need in 2011/12

52,100 children in that year became subject to cpps

28,200 started to be looked after in the year.

Less than 10%. So back up your "most" please with some cold hard facts.5

Oh no, have I killed the thread with stats rather than hysteria. Never mind.

no the stats you found were the published ones.

do you really think they would be brave enough to put the true facts on the internet...............

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i dont think so.

like i said i know some parents who are fighting the system to get their children back but are fighting lies that have been put into court by so called expert witnesses

WHO I MAY ADD ARE NOW BEING TAKEN TO COURT FOR THERE ROLE IN THE WAY THEIR REPORTS WERE PUT INTO THE FAMILY COURTS

GOGGLE DR HIBBERT.

I was also responsible, in my area, for the submission of these stats.
You'd think someone would have mentioned we were meant to fiddle them
You are completely, and utterly wrong

honestly honestly, find out more. Talk to a children's social worker. You will be amazed. I was.

I'm guessing you don't let the facts get in the way of a damn good conspiracy theory though.

the sw who dealt with my daughters case was if i may use this term a complete bitch. she was caught on video saying things to my daughter that she should not have done (which has been reported but nothing has been done yet)

at the contact centre we was at there was a girl there who was 18 her son was 12 months and he was put for adoption on her final visit the contact superviser told her it would be ok she could have another child in the future at the end of the contact the sw took the child from her while she was in tears when the foster carer took the child out she too was in tears and the girl ran out of the centre and lay down in the road at the gates to the centre and said if you take my child from me you may as well run over me and kill me.

the said girl is not pregant again and the sw has told her the child with be removed from her within hours of birth and will be adopted.

do you think that this is right ?

This is the fourth thread I have clicked on in the last three days about social workers removing children allegedly to place for adoption. All of them have been started by new or almost new posters (or namechangers).

In my opinion, the op's of those posts know very little about the whole business and are scaremongering. Or (and this is possible) they are deliberately setting out to upset people..

My main worry is that there are many women struggling to cope with their children, who may have PND or disabilities of some type, whose children may have extra needs, who may be suffering domestic abuse and who are sadly so fearful of having their children removed that they are avoiding going for help which they badly need, thus leaving their children very vulnerable .

mysecretworld only posts on threads like this. Her story may well be true, I don't know, but many of the posts are like reading chunks of Ian Joseph's innane site.

Oh, and I agree absolutely with Kewcumber's post above.

This is not a story about adoption, as only a small number of children removed from their parents are ultimately adopted.

OMG

LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD MORE THAN HALF ARE ADOPTED WITHIN A YEAR THE OTHERS TAKE LONGER.

STAND OUTSIDE A COURT WHICH DEALS WITH CARE CASES WITH A POLL AND ASK PEOPLE TO TICK BOXES ABOUT THEIR CHILDREN

IE ARE THEY IN FOSTER CARE

HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN IN FOSTER CARE

HAS YOUR CHILD BEEN ADOPTED
IF SO AT WHAT AGE

TELL YOU WHAT I WILL DO IT AND COPY AND PASTE IT ONTO HERE.

You really think that more than half of children taken into care are adopted within a year.

Really?

You do know you have your facts completely wrong.

If there is a chance that children are taken from their parents under false accusations, it seems fair to have a system where parents have to agree to their children being adopted.
Those clearly unable to keep their children would agree and those not willing should be given time to build a case and seek representation.
I don't think ss should be given this role of judge and jury themselves.