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OI! Car at the front. Move straight away when the lights turn green, not five minutes later so it turns red and the cars behind have to wait for the green again.

(74 Posts)
Ledkr Thu 30-Jan-14 15:36:21

Grrr am I the only person who is ready to pull away as soon as the lights change!

Shellywelly1973 Thu 30-Jan-14 15:38:15

Lol!

Drives me insane... especially in London when any driver spends a stupid amount of time in traffic!

knittedslippersx3 Thu 30-Jan-14 15:39:23

Have you ever thought the person in front might be a newly qualified driver or have a new car that they are still getting used to. Patience goes a long way.

Ledkr Thu 30-Jan-14 15:40:52

No I haven't I just thought they were annoying and making me wait !!

Ledkr Thu 30-Jan-14 15:42:00

I don't have any patience sorry grin

ShatnersBassoon Thu 30-Jan-14 15:42:50

They probably stalled. Not worth getting your gusset rucked up for the sake of two wasted minutes in a day.

JuanPotatoTwo Thu 30-Jan-14 15:42:51

This is one of my bugbears. Even if the slow-to-move-away person is a new driver, the sequence of the lights gives you the cue to get ready. You don't get ready on green, you go on green.

And, no, in the grand scheme etc it doesn't really matter. But it still annoys me.

DameDeepRedBetty Thu 30-Jan-14 15:43:49

I'm far more angry with the blithering idiots in steel grey cars who don't seem to know how to turn their lights on!

Ledkr Thu 30-Jan-14 15:46:25

No they didn't stall, they checked their mirror, put the car in gear, checked mirror again, took off hand break then slooowwwwwlllllyyyyy pulled away whilst looking around them while the other hundred cars sat waiting.
I didn't drive after them beeping or shaking my fist tho, I just posted here for a giggle, gussets are stil smooth grin

Ledkr Thu 30-Jan-14 15:47:22

dame you are scaring me, I've a grey car but lights are off hmm

Minnieisthedevilmouse Thu 30-Jan-14 15:48:49

I hate this too. The signals never change order. If they go red it's a matter of mins til it's your turn again so WHY are you not fecking ready to move?

I think it's a capital offence. I'll happily stand at a light with a gun ;) lol although it's a bit wet today.... Maybe next week....

(Light hearted, incase really not obvious....)

Ledkr Thu 30-Jan-14 15:50:38

Yes it's important to point out that you are lighthearted on mumsnet these days or the p.o. Will tell you off.

DameDeepRedBetty Thu 30-Jan-14 15:53:04

It's been foggy all day here Ledkr, hence my whingeing on this subject. grin

JennyOnAPlate Thu 30-Jan-14 15:53:33

Ah yes. The "oh look, the lights gone green. Maybe I'll just have a little look in my mirror. Oh yes, cars behind me. I'll just slowly reach down and release the hand brake. Let's just have another look at the car behind. Still there! Now, foot off brake. Slowly release clutch. And the car behind is still there. Oh look! A pedestrian walking by on the pavement. Where was I? Oh yes gentle pressure on the accelerator and creep slowly forward. Oooh the lights gone amber. Floor it!" Driver.

Fucking gets my goat.

ShatnersBassoon Thu 30-Jan-14 15:54:28

Fair enough. Dawdlers are annoying. I can't stand being a passenger with my mum driving because she has to completely stop at every roundabout, then check if anything is approaching. My blood pressure is sky high by the time we get to our destination.

ladydepp Thu 30-Jan-14 15:58:53

In these situations it is imperative to shout out your open window "It ain't gettin' any greener!" in an American accent. I find this makes me feel much better....grin

CaptainGrinch Thu 30-Jan-14 16:00:41

Have you ever thought the person in front might be a newly qualified driver or have a new car that they are still getting used to.

In that case they should have to have a "P" sticker on the back (make up your mind as to what it stands for)....

Deathwatchbeetle Thu 30-Jan-14 16:01:40

Jennyonaplate -! That is exactly what happens! My brother get this a lot. However he never get shouty, uses his horn etc. He is very calm (perhaps because he is a teacher maybe????).

Shatner - at least your mum STOPS to check i anything is coming. My Aunt is always surprised when she drives towards a roundabout and there is a sodding car coming towards her. I once had to point out that a BLOODY BIG LORRY was coming towards us. Aaaaargh!

Oh yes this bugs me every morning on the commute as well.
Its a complete surprise to some people that the lights will change.
Never mind pre-empting that your set are next in the sequence.

Blamenargles Thu 30-Jan-14 16:27:28

Glad it's not just me that gets mad!

And I'm with PP about drivers not putting their lights on its dull snow/sleet/rain today and it's countryside so lost of trees and winding roads. Put your F..ing lights on!!!!

tb Thu 30-Jan-14 16:30:35

Even better when they drive to the lights at a snail's pace, and then accelerate at the last minute leaving you there waiting while the lights are on red.

They usually have a fish symbol on the boot of their care to show how Christian they are, too grin

leadrightfoot Thu 30-Jan-14 16:38:21

It might be two minutes, but it is bloody inconsiderate there are other people on the planet, we all pay our road tax and insurance so can use the road, so why the bloody hell should said muppet drivers be able to take their sweet time and waste other peoples? Why is my time any less precious than thier's?

I have been known to comment loudly "what are you waiting for an invite to move?" and realised the roof was down and person muppet had windows down and so heard me. We ended up in the same car park (odd that as the purpose of the lights was to regulate flow into the car park) where she smiled in a sheepish fashion and rushed past .....

Oh so you can crack on when on two feet - moral to the story bloody don't drive then muppet!

Yes PMT has arrived - anyone noticed???

flatmum Thu 30-Jan-14 16:40:08

the ones that slow down to a crawl as they approach the lights that have just turned green annoy me the most.

YY, annoys me too. FWIW newly qualified drivers tend IMO to be quicker - they are very self-aware, and the worst they do is stall.

What annoys me is twits who use the time to change the CD, fanny about with their phone or whatever, so miss the lights. Or near us there's one with a green arrow and you constantly find some idiot is too busy staring vacantly ahead to notice it. hmm

LadyFlumpalot Thu 30-Jan-14 17:14:37

May I add the 40mph EVERYWHERE drivers. The speed limit could be 70 or 20 it doesn't matter, they drive at a preset speed of 40.

Or people who seem incapable of varying pressure on the accelerator so they s l o w right down going up a hill.

Or people who brake whenever they see another car coming towards them, no matter how much room there is.

Strangely the one connecting thing is that all these people seem to wear hats whilst driving.

Catsmamma Thu 30-Jan-14 17:22:09

it's like it's a surprise ...."ohhh look at the lovely red light...loook at it!! What's going to happen next??? I wonder? Oohhhh it's greeeeenn now...whatever shall we do??"

oh for the love of pete get a moooooooooooooooooooove on!! I have been known to shout ARE YOU WAITING FOR ANY PARTICULAR SHADE OF GREEN???

And today's pet peeve is when you are tootling along in a "queue" of traffic, maybe not quite as fast as you would like, but you know, everyone is moving along WHY is is always an Audi that will come screaming up behind and then try every trick in the book to just get in front of one more car.

Always.A.Fucking.Audi. ALWAYS

magimedi Thu 30-Jan-14 17:23:19

Strangely the one connecting thing is that all these people seem to wear hats whilst driving.

And never use their rear view mirrors.

grin

cats, that is brilliant. Though knowing my luck I'd become accustomed to saying it and would continue to do so in summer with my windows down. It's happened with other things. blush

Also, those people who use the accellerator as a brake, so they roll back, rev up, roll back, rev up, over and over. Especially mean if you've got a learner behind you, IMO.

KatoPotato Thu 30-Jan-14 17:30:38

Left filter... ITS A FILTER! Go! Go!

There's always someone sat like a dunce down our village. I like to beep then quickly look behind with 'huh? Who's that?' as if to blame the car behind me!

Only works if there's actually one behind you

chinley Thu 30-Jan-14 17:33:13

May I add the 40mph EVERYWHERE drivers. The speed limit could be 70 or 20 it doesn't matter, they drive at a preset speed of 40.

THIS is DH. In fact I pulled him up on this very thing only 2 days ago. I cannot stand being a passenger when he's driving. He has NO lane discipline, so he'll be in the far left lane of 3 when he's supposed to turn right 10 yards ahead etc., I can feel my blood pressure rising every minute I'm in the car with him.

Catsmamma Thu 30-Jan-14 17:34:22

we got busted in the summer.....a family hobby is to shout "pppppppppppPPPPPPPPP-rick" when we spot a be-lycra-ed cyclist because -- we are not nice-- really funny.

I was out with dd on a driving lesson...hot summer day...we are slowing to make a right turn on a narrow country junction...did we not see the local lycra lout (matching helmet, gloves, go faster stripe on his hi-vis cycle suit) of course without a second though we loudly chorused "Pppprickkkkkkkkk!"

only realising at the last minute we had all the windows and sunroof open.

We haven't seen him since. :D To be fair he was 65 if he was a day and I doubt he would have heard us over the thundering of his blood pressure in his ears, but maybe he could lipread???

Oh, no. blush

That is the sort of thing I do, cos I am extremely childish.

LadyF I am firmly of the opinion that wearing a hat, whether you're an elderly gent in a flat cap, a woman in a floral wedding number, or a young lad in a baseball cap, overheats the brain and renders the wearer incapable of driving like a sensible person.

Sparklingbrook Thu 30-Jan-14 17:37:10

I save my wrath for the non indicator brigade.

Pipbin Thu 30-Jan-14 17:38:41

Its the fuckers that have no sodding idea how to indicate on a sodding roundabout that piss me off.
So many times you could go, had the person told you that they were actually coming off just before you by indicating left. Or you pull out in front of people who are not indicating right when they should be.

Catsmamma Thu 30-Jan-14 17:39:38

ooh hahahah kato, I did that once, local town has a two lane roundabout that filters into a one lane road...two drivers were heading straight across to the single carriage way, did they not have a bit of argy bargy, then the one in front needed to right turn about 50 yards up, so the one behind obviously felt he had not made his point and squeezed up along side and continued the fight

It was quite amusing as 2nd guy could not get out as he was wedged alongside, 1st guy couldn't get out or turn due ot oncoming traffic, so it was gestures and language a-go-go

I was two back and got bored so I beeeeeeeped and then swivelled around looking everywhere to "see who it was" so they did not know it was me. :D

Pipbin Thu 30-Jan-14 17:39:53

Oh Cats I did that once, swore loudly at a cyclist, only to remember that it was a convertible and the roof was down!

Sparklingbrook Thu 30-Jan-14 17:42:06

I once saw too cars wedged together over a narrow canal bridge. Neither had given way to the other and just went over it and got stuck. Funny bit was that neither could get out of the car either.
No idea how they were rescued.

Sparklingbrook Thu 30-Jan-14 17:42:24

two cars even grin

DystopianReality Thu 30-Jan-14 17:43:50

It'll be you one day who irritates the pants off the person behind. Patience, kindness, tolerance....it'll make you happier.

Catsmamma Thu 30-Jan-14 17:45:43

no, Dystopian...never!!

never for both! irritating and patience! NEVER!

Mmm. It's not really about 'kindness', is it?

Kindness is what you show when someone else isn't moving a ton of metal around the streets at high speeds and failing to pay attention.

DystopianReality Thu 30-Jan-14 17:54:57

Ahmmm, my post did sound a bit smug didn't it? sorry...it's just I'm such a culprit of bad judgment when driving, I appreciate all the kindness, tolerance and patience...

Nah, you're fine! I was a bit harsh too.

There's such a difference between someone who stalls at the lights and someone drives in such a way that you're worried to overtake or get close because you think they're not quite ok. Kindness to the former is basic decency but the latter scares me.

DystopianReality Thu 30-Jan-14 18:01:49

yup, I get you really... I'm not even a geriatric driver yet...the times I am daydreaming at the lights, the times I pull out, thinking I have enough time... the times I find myself mouthing 'SORRY' are quite pathetic really. And then there are the times when I think I'm the best bloody driver EVER!

MrsKoala Thu 30-Jan-14 18:08:29

i have had driving lessons in London, then in quieter places. When in London i was taught to get ready to go the moment the lights changed, but when i moved out i had a lesson, did what i was taught and the instructor gave me a right telling off. I was told not to even start the prep till it was green.

When exMil used to visit us in London she would do just that - slowly do her checks and safely move of slowly. After being sworn at and beeped numerous times she asked what everyones problem was. So i told her. She was furious and shocked - she thinks she is the oracle on driving and was incensed anyone would engage their car before the light was green grin

vastknapsack Thu 30-Jan-14 18:31:29

About a week after I'd passed my driving test I sat nervously at the front of a big queue at the lights, waiting to turn right. I was already in a flap over the right turn, and when the lights changed I couldn't get my handbrake off.
The lights changed. And then changed again. I almost got out of the car and ran away. I am actually breaking out in a cold sweat remembering it. Nobody beeped at me and eventually I managed with very shaky hands to get the handbrake off and go. I NEVER beep at anyone grin

vastknapsack Thu 30-Jan-14 18:36:46

MrsKoala I drove for the first time in London recently and got a mouthful of colourful language from a man in the next lane. Apparently my crime was leaving a gap between me and the car in front. I didn't realise I had to travel nose to bumper at all times or I was holding up the traffic grin

SuburbanSpaceperson Thu 30-Jan-14 18:52:17

I was behind a car on a road local to me. We pulled up at a t-junction traffic light where we were on a minor road. The driver in front was fiddling with something inside his car. Our light went green, he continued fiddling, our light went red. What he didn't know, but I did, was that it is a motion sensor trigger on that light. I was running about 15 mins early to meet my friend so I just sat there instead of reversing and moving forward again to trigger the light. He continued fiddling, it took him about 4 mins to notice that the light wasn't changing, then a further 6 mins of increasing frustration before another car pulled up behind me and triggered the light.

There is another set of lights less than 2 mins up the road, we both pulled up at the red light, and, guess what, he fiddled again and didn't notice the light turn green. hmm I had no more patience left so flashed my lights at him. I don't know why he didn't just park the car and sort out whatever the problem was properly.

Reduction Thu 30-Jan-14 19:04:13

Does no-one else find it amusing that all these poster's time is so precious that they can get this wound up about wasting a few seconds behind a driver with slow reactions but then have all the time in the world to bitch about discuss it on here?

I would also like to designate a specific zone of Hell for those who leave gaps in front of their car when queuing, thus causing traffic jams behind them of motorists trapped on roundabouts unable to exit because these pillocks are in the way.

In fact any driver that causes chaos behind them through being generally oblivious of their surroundings (random swervers, random brakers etc) should be forced to eat their own licences and never allowed to drive again. Gits.

chinley Thu 30-Jan-14 19:28:41

No Reduction, because, genereally, when you're in a car, you have somewhere you bloody need to go, hence being in your car!

Yes, I do drive in London and the south east. grin

Reduction Thu 30-Jan-14 19:30:02

Erm DMC, it's impossible to get trapped on a roundabout if the way off it was clear when you went on. It's the pillocks who go onto the roundabout when there's no way off who cause that particular problem.

TweedWasSoLastYear Thu 30-Jan-14 19:48:18

DMC . If you wedge your car up against the car in front you suck in all the smelly exhaust fumes from the car in front.
Plus you cannot move anywhere if an emergency vehicle needs to get through .
If the car in front stalls or breaks down for any reason you cannot manoever round it if you have left a 3" gap.
It can also be seen as agressive to the car in front and abit of a space invader move . Cars cause traffic jams , gaps do not.

Not on the one at LHR it isn't. Admittedly the layout of the roundabout doesn't help, but it's one of those roundabouts where it relies on a steady stream of traffic when the lights change.
Otherwise you end up with gridlock as everyone dithers after the light has turned green.

Which is, I believe, where we came in to this discussion.

vastknapsack Thu 30-Jan-14 19:54:30

DMC I must be a pillock then grin my driving instructor would always say "tyres and Tarmac" to me. Meaning that when behind another car you should be able to see its rear tyres and a strip of Tarmac below. His reasoning was that you are less likely to get blocked in when parking, and when in queueing traffic you are less likely to hit the car in front if you get shunted from behind. It's always stuck so I always leave a gap.

red, that's only true on very small roundabouts. If you are on the kind with multiple lanes and traffic lights, you certainly can get stuck!

vastknapsack Thu 30-Jan-14 19:55:26

X post with tweed

threebats Thu 30-Jan-14 19:57:53

I would also like to designate a specific zone of Hell for those who leave gaps in front of their car when queuing, thus causing traffic jams behind them of motorists trapped on roundabouts unable to exit because these pillocks are in the way.
Be careful you do not have somebody in front of you who is holding on the clutch or are just randomly crap with starting on a hill or something - they roll back into your car - you get the blame for not leaving enough room between cars.

PlasmaBall Thu 30-Jan-14 19:59:10

No, sorry I don't agree. On the ones with multiple lanes and lights there are yellow grids to avoid that happening. It's only when people go into the grids without a way out that everything gets stuck

Thank you LRD

It's hard to explain but the roundabout involves 8 lanes of traffic and an integral crossroads. It's perfectly possible to get stuck due to other people not moving far enough along when they've made the turn. They're not leaving space for emergency vehicles as there would be no way they'd be in that lane as there's a hard shoulder sort of arrangement.

chateauferret Thu 30-Jan-14 20:00:50

That sodding roundabout at Hermiston Gait where the M8 ends in a jumble of cars and traffic lights has now reached the point where green means "use the kind of profanities you generally reserve for Special Occasions"; and red means "charge forward and hope nobody notices you jumped the lights; then stop 3 inches from the arse of the car in front and make sure you block the next entrance to the roundabout; on no account stay in the same lane as the one you started in; and do not signal". It should be demolished.

Galena Thu 30-Jan-14 20:01:36

If you go too promptly when the light turns green, you're more likely to get sideswiped by the idiot going through the red light who thought it was amber, guv, honest...

And a small gap so you can see tyres and tarmac is fine. Enough room to park a Winnebago in is not.

NearTheWindmill Thu 30-Jan-14 20:07:54

They don't annoy me as much as the people who beep when I am at a crossroads and edging out to make sure I can turn left of right as soon as possible. The only reason I don't is because there is traffice approaching from the left or the right and to continue driving would cause an accident. That makes my blood boil - do they expect me to actually drive into oncoming traffic. I am a teeny bit cautious but I have been driving in London for nearly 35 years and tend to keep moving wherever possible

plasma - not talking about going into the grids. Not that they are invariably there on roundabouts with lights, of course.

There is absolutely no magic in the world can change things if you've moved forward and are sitting at the lights, then people from the next exit ahead block the way. You cannot move forward; you have to sit there. You can hardly reverse back so what else do you do in that situation?

Sparklingbrook Thu 30-Jan-14 20:12:27

How rude to honk at people though-there's no need.

There is a bloke where I live who I swear must drive with his hand poised over the horn in readiness.

(I wrote that and then realized what it looks like, but yes, he is a wanker.)

Sparklingbrook Thu 30-Jan-14 20:27:52

grin LRD

There's a bloke round here who we call 'Mr Maniac'. He drives as if there are no other cars on the road, and you just have to get out of the way.

austenozzy Thu 30-Jan-14 20:40:18

Good job nobody has mentioned middle lane hoggers yet, or this thread would head to hell in a handbasket!

(My driving is perfect, natch)

<<immature fourth form giggling>> aimed at LRD

CuntyBunty Thu 30-Jan-14 21:16:23

I was behind a lorry, one behind mind, and by the time they made it through the lights, they'd fucking changed back. I was pissed off. Gasping with rage, almost. How can a vehicle be deemed roadworthy if it takes off that slowly? A whole cycle of lights changing and unnecessary delay to other road users, ggrr.

DisgraceToTheYChromosome Thu 30-Jan-14 21:58:34

Hi Cunty

It's not slow,; it's heavy. Really fucking heavy. Today I was running at a shade under 43 tonnes. I pull away in 2nd, floor it, and the auto changer will go 4th, 7th, 9th and that takes me to 20 mph in around 10 seconds.

That's on the flat. Hills? There's one in Bradford where you have to lock it in 1st to turn right to Shipley or it'll spin and slide backwards. Not fun.

HTH

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