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Bloody hell, ds1 has done it again (warning - contains white poppies)

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By Tue 03-Nov-09 17:31:30 Add message | Report | Contact poster

Not content with standing up in assembly when in Reception, interrupting the Head and announcing "my mummy and daddy don't believe in God"

he stood by the teacher today when she was giving out the red poppies, lobbying his classmates to wear a white on instead as "red poppies glorify war" (he's 7 and in Y2 now)

we have talked about red poppies and white poppies, he knows the different viewpoints we and other adults have and has decided he thinks the white poppy is a more constructive symbol and better represents his own stance on the subject

he came out of school wearing a massive white poppy he'd made, and he'd managed to get a few other kids to make them too shock

I had a stiff talk to him about not ridiculing or being rude about other people's choice to wear red poppies, but have said if he feels strongly about it he can wear a white one

the Head will be appalled

but I have no intention of ordering him to take it off or wear a red one - he isn't just posturing, he has thought it through and has a valid viewpoint, no?

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 05-Nov-09 21:09:55

<i love wimmin> smile

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 05-Nov-09 16:46:43

But they don't say the same thing, that's the point. The red poppy (to me) is about remembrance of the sacrifice made by millions of servicemen, but to others it stands for the glorification of war. The white poppy, to quote their website 'symbolises the belief that there are better ways to resolve conflicts than killing strangers', which I for one can't argue with. The problem seems to come when some people are offended by the expression of a different opinion to their own and the way in which it is done.

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 05-Nov-09 16:08:11

Surely, though, by wearing a poppy of any colour you are saying the same thing?
Both of them are just there to remember the people who have lost their lives in the war, and the only reason the poppy is red is because the poppies sent back from the front line were red? The fact that people are reading interpretations into the colours says far more about that person, and society today, then the actual colour of the poppy, I think.

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 05-Nov-09 15:20:50

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 05-Nov-09 15:19:03

I haven't seen 'wimmin' since Wolverhampton Polytechnic circa 1989....<nostalgic sigh>...

<ahem> Sorry for hijack, Greeny.

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 05-Nov-09 15:10:55

Devonian wimmin, actually wink

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 05-Nov-09 15:04:33

<<sorry for hijack greeny>>

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 05-Nov-09 15:03:43

I'm good. I miss you all, nice devonian ladies smile

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 05-Nov-09 15:01:00

Franca! Hellooooooo! How are you? smile

Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 05-Nov-09 14:53:32

<<can't resist saying hello to pageturner and congratulating her on her diplomacy>>

Like Gorionine, I'm not English, and I really can't understand why wearing a white poppy should be offensive, btw. But again, I come from a country where people are way too forthright...

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