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We've found a tiny bald baby fallen from the nest in our roof. We can't get it back up there.

It's alive and chirping for all it's worth.

It must be very young it has no feathers, no neck control and it's eyes are fused over.

I've liquidised a can of dog food with water and fed it and it has a strong feeding reflex.

What can I do?

I know it's very likely to die but I'd like to help in any way I can.

The local wildlife hospital is closed until the morning.

shadypines Wed 30-Jul-14 20:11:27

Hi, presume the mother would be giving it insects and worms so is there anyone in your household that could handle these ( I'm really not sure about the dog food but well done for trying...)

Can you make it a nest in a shoe box or something out of harms way of cats. Have you got some dried grass you could use or any of your neighbours got small animals, they might have hay?

Also look or RSPB website or google what to do for a baby bird.

Good luck.

shadypines Wed 30-Jul-14 20:12:14

Not sure about the temp where you are but try to keep it warm overnight too

Outsiderlookingin Wed 30-Jul-14 20:14:00

Do the hospital not have a line that you can just speak to someone for advice? What area are you in?

Try to keep him warm if you can - line a box or container with some fleece or similar material and place him somewhere warm but with air flow. Please be careful how you feed him as it could get into his air sacs and drown him (don't give him water). It's nearly impossible to tell what kind of bird it is at this stage but depending on the bird, they have varied diets. Is it possible to post a pic of him?

Oh no poor thing. I found a baby bird on our patio this morning, unfortunately it must've been there since yesterday afternoon as the little thing had died sad

Pet shops that sell mealworms for reptiles might be an idea if it's still ok tomorrow.

I read about the dog meat thing on our local wildlife hospitals website.
I think looking at pictures it's less than 7 days old because it's eyes are shut.

How often shall I feed it?

It's in a large Tupperware box on a tea towel that's covering a bottle filled with warm water to keep it warm. It's still 20 degrees here so it's not cold luckily.

I'm not sure what type of bird it is.

Outsiderlookingin Wed 30-Jul-14 20:17:03

BBQ - great advice regarding the mealworms but they do not provide enough nutrients alone and they shouldn't be fed live to birds that tiny (adult birds kill worms before eating).

Here he is.

I hope the food wasn't too watery. He is still chirping and opening his beak wide.

I'm in West Sussex

Outsiderlookingin Wed 30-Jul-14 20:19:58

Dog meat is OK for older birds - small birds like this one need an almost baby food bird mixture, which is then carefully fed with a very blunt cocktail stick every hour. You won't be able to get your hands on something like this at this time of night...that's why I wondered whether your local wildlife hospital opened for emergencies like this one...?

Coconutty Wed 30-Jul-14 20:22:29

Oh bless it.

Outsiderlookingin Wed 30-Jul-14 20:25:53

East Sussex Wildlife Rescue are open 24 hours for emergencies and have a mobile number - could you try ringing them for advice? Here

PickANameAnyNameWillDo Wed 30-Jul-14 20:27:58

If you can get him through the night and get to a big pet store or garden centre with pet department in the morning you'll be able to buy egg food. One of the bigger names is Cee Dee. It should provide all the nutrients a baby bird needs.

Their stomachs are really tiny (of course!) and there's a risk of flooding their lungs with liquid so go really, really carefully and slowly.

Then the best chance for him will be with a wildlife centre or rescue. Perhaps a local bird person with experience could help. Try asking on your local Facebook page if your area has one to see if there's anyone on there who breeds birds or rescues them. A local vet might have contacts too.

I've called the East Sussex place, nothing they can do in regards of collecting him be because it's out of area, the local one isn't answering the phones and they say they shut at 5.30.

The guy in the phone said all i can do is give him rehydration fluid but everywhere says not to give it fluid. confused

He's still squeaking away but he is likely to die in the night isn't he? sad

Is he a starling maybe? I'm not an expert at all but his wee face looks starling-ish smile

I think the food needs to be quite solid rather than sloppy, think mashed potato rather than porridge consistency wise.

Dog food is ok, I think 30% protein or thereabouts is what starlings or sparrows require so as close to that as possible should at least get him through the night. Don't give him any liquids directly, dab some on his beak if he needs it. You can use blue powerade in tiny amounts for dehydration.

Outsiderlookingin Wed 30-Jul-14 20:36:31

I disagree Pick, the wildlife rescue I volunteer at does not feed egg food to babies of this age - they need an all-in-one mixture of nutrients and water like Kaytee which is what we feed here. Egg food is too dry at this age.

LegoClone Wed 30-Jul-14 20:36:38

I raised a baby starling that fell out of its nest successfully, however it was older than your chick so had socialised a bit with other starlings and was therefore more likely to make it in the wild when released.

We fed it mostly mealworms with a pair of forceps/tweezers. I'd squish their heads to stop them wriggling so much then stick them down the chick's throat as a parent bird would. It took a few hours before the chick got the hang of the idea that I was trying to feed it - I can't remember what I did to get it to open its mouth at first but soon it was begging for food as soon as it saw me.

It was fairly intensive as it needed feeding throughout the day, fortunately my job meant I could take it to work and everyone helped out!

We kept it in a hamster cage and let it out to fly around the house lots - we were decorating at the time and had taken the carpet up so weren't worried about "accidents". grin

As it got older we tried to ensure it had time outside watching and listening to other starlings, plus we showed it places to find food and broadened its diet.

One day it decided to take itself off to roost in a neighbour's tree rather than coming back in and that was that. sad We had lots of starling chicks visiting our garden that year so there was no way to know for sure, but we think we spotted our fledgling a few times at our bird table.

From the research I did at the time it seemed to suggest that a very young chick that was hand reared wouldn't be able to make it if released as it would imprint on you and not relate properly to its own kind. sad I don't know if this is definitely the case though.

Best of luck! Hope that your local wildlife hospital is helpful.

Outsiderlookingin Wed 30-Jul-14 20:38:12

You can give fluids but you have to be 'trained' in getting it into their crop rather than their air sacs sad

The local hospital is good when it's open, I've taken food and blankets to them before.

I'm confident it's warm, I just don't know what to do in regards to feeding it.

There is varying degrees of information online as to what and how often.

I'm worried I'll kill it if I do it wrong.

Outsiderlookingin Wed 30-Jul-14 20:42:32

In your situation I think the best thing you can do is what you are doing already - the liquidised meat and small amount of water and feed with a very blunt cocktail stick. As soon as you can in the morning, get it to a rescue.

PickANameAnyNameWillDo Wed 30-Jul-14 20:43:12

Oh, I'm sorry Outsider. flowers

I said that because in the past I've fed a crumbly yellow mixture (Cee Dee was what I used ages ago for a 7 day old pigeon but I can't recall the name of hte stuff I used most recently on a bird). It was mixed with warm water to make a sloppy mess.

Yes, I think I need to accept that doing something is better than nothing and if it doesn't work then I've done my best in a blind situation.

(Baby humans are wayyyy easier than this)

LegoClone Wed 30-Jul-14 20:44:20

X-posted with lots of people due to slow typing!

It does look like "my" starling, without the fluffiness that mine had - I think mine was 8-10 days ish from comparing to photos. However from looking at pics of baby birds I realised that they look pretty similar when they're freshly hatched!

Outsiderlookingin Wed 30-Jul-14 20:44:56

There will be a lot of conflicting info online - I am only going by what my local rescue does but they would open for you to take this little fella in (even at this time of night). Usually feed every hour until dark and start again when it becomes light.

You're doing fine, as long as the food isn't too liquid and he stays warm and hydrated then he has a good chance.

Outsiderlookingin Wed 30-Jul-14 20:47:30

No worries Pick we're all just trying to offer our help thanks Pigeons are a whole different kettle of fish! grin We also feed them on Kaytee but with a syringe and in bigger quantities (they love it)!

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