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## Would you mind telling me about your Year 1 child's number skills? Worried.

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AwfulMaureen Fri 31-Jan-14 10:02:42

Ok...I just want to know what other year 1 DC can and can't do regarding number work. I KNOW it's not good to compare but I feel like I need a realistic idea of where we are with DD.

She's in year one...she's not the youngest and not the oldest but right in the middle.

Her teacher told me she needs extra help as she's not up to scratch...so for the last couple of days I've worked a lot with her and at the start of it, she could not recognise and order numbers 1 -20 but now she can, she can write them too...she can do simple addition...1 + 1 and 1+2 etc and if you give her something a bit bigger like 10+4 she can do it with counters or fingers.

She had a light bulb moment yesterday too and She can now write any number from 1-100 but couldn't order them I don't think..if I say "98" for example then she writes it down...same with any other two figured number....she loves playing that game for some reason!

Anyway...can you tell me...how far behind is she? She seems to have grasped a lot with just a couple of days of game playing and intensive counting which luckily she seems to love. I want to know what your year 1 child can do so that I can aim for something...thank you!

Fri 31-Jan-14 11:02:26

ditto, Thisisaghostly, that's why I avoided the actual question.

I had no idea what a number bond is either, but now I do know, I would say DD knows the number bonds. She also does halves and quarters and she can do addition / subtraction in her head, I have no idea up to what numbers, but definitely in the double digits. I have no idea how she compares to the rest of the class, do you all ask your teachers for regular feedback?

PS i have just spotted that komodo maths is on android now too.

MrsBearWasTired Fri 31-Jan-14 11:02:28

I don't know! I think dd did 10 first but she may have done smaller numbers at school and I just didn't hear about it. Maybe start at 5 and if she gets it easily try 10?

If she's not loving it, starting off softly softly to build up her confidence rather than starting higher and putting her off?

LooeyLou Fri 31-Jan-14 11:02:54

That sounds perfectly normal to me, most maths at that age would be worked out practically eg using counters, pasta fingers etc

I would say the most useful things for her to know would be general counting, ordering numbers up to 20 and basic number bonds up to 5 and 10 if she gets good and recognising numbers

kilmuir Fri 31-Jan-14 11:05:24

Why on earth don't you ask her teacher?

AwfulMaureen Fri 31-Jan-14 11:08:52

Loopey Shall I do 4 first do you think? 1+3 2+2 ? and then do 5...1+4 2+3 4+1 and carry on through to ten?

MrsBearWasTired Fri 31-Jan-14 11:09:51

I haven't the foggiest where dd is in relation to the rest of the class but she struggles with her maths homework so guessing she's not as able as some of the class. Did raise it at parents evening before Christmas and the teacher didn't seem too concerned but I don't ask regularly for feedback- if dd has really struggled I might mention it at drop off but not nagging the teacher every week :-D

AwfulMaureen Fri 31-Jan-14 11:09:55

Kilimuir why on earth come on a thread if it's just to look down on someone?

I HAVE but she has another 29 kids to care for...she spoke to me a few days ago. I am just getting more support here. Is that alright for you?

Thisisaghostlyeuphemism Fri 31-Jan-14 11:11:10

Both! I expect they will let me know if there's an issue (complacency alert).
At preschool, DS was the only kid who could count from 5 backwards, thanks to Thunderbirds.
The phrase 'number bonds' makes me uneasy. I think 'of human bondage'.
I am going to check out komodo dragon on i-pad though. Show willing and all.

AwfulMaureen Fri 31-Jan-14 11:11:20

MrsBear I'm sure they'd tell you if it were getting worrisome. But it won't harm to check...sometimes I've checked things with my older DD and found them saying things like "Oh yes..she DOES struggle a bit with X...we were waiting till parents evening to tell you."

So maybe best to check!

SelfRighteousPrissyPants Fri 31-Jan-14 11:11:46

I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't know what they can do

He never tells me what he's done at school! Oh, now I think of it he did say they'd started doing 2 and 10 X tables. He can add and subtract simple sums and count to 100. Haven't got a clue otherwise.

AwfulMaureen Fri 31-Jan-14 11:12:16

Ghostly me too! It's just a bloody catchphrase for addition....but apparently the term has been around since the 20s...certainly never used it when I was in school though!

AwfulMaureen Fri 31-Jan-14 11:13:04

My chart has just arrived...nice and big it is...and bright...all it is is numbers 1 to 100 but will be handy for her to look at and count...

MrsBearWasTired Fri 31-Jan-14 11:14:23

Because it is helpful to hear others experiences and methods that work for them so you can pool all the knowledge and methods figure a plan to help your own dc? thought that was the point of mumsnet

Thisisaghostlyeuphemism Fri 31-Jan-14 11:15:22

Ooh, a nice colourful poster. That's my kind of maths.

Plus Thunderbirds - get her to watch that for those important counting backwards skills.

AwfulMaureen Fri 31-Jan-14 11:15:59

MrsBear who are you talking to there?

AwfulMaureen Fri 31-Jan-14 11:16:48

ghostly she can count from ten back I think that's some space themed tv show that's responsible for that!

kilmuir Fri 31-Jan-14 11:19:05

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MrsBearWasTired Fri 31-Jan-14 11:19:27

I will check if something is really struggling to click with dd.

Mumof3xx Fri 31-Jan-14 11:19:51

We have a home - school maths targets book

Things are ticked off as dc are able to do them

So it lets parents see where they are up to in school And be able to work on the next targets

I had assumed all schools would have something like this!

kilmuir Fri 31-Jan-14 11:20:17

If you are that worried get to the school rather than messing about on here ffs

DD1 COULD do her 2x table but seems to have forgotten half of it. Can do her 10x table. Can do 1x5, 2x5 and 3x5 of the 5x table.
She can add single digit numbers but still uses her fingers most of the time.
She's OK on number bonds making ten, dodgy on number bonds making twenty, and hasn't got the hang of number bonds to other numbers at all yet.
She's just starting to work on adding two digit numbers but I don't think she understands it yet.
She can subtract single digit numbers (fingers again).
She has finally got the hang of adding ten to a number.

She's in the middle maths group so I'm guessing is somewhere around average for her class.

AwfulMaureen Fri 31-Jan-14 11:23:06

*Kilmuir" Nope. YOU are stupid if you don't utilize the knowledge available to you on here. It's not just for insulting people you know. Trot on now...piss off to AIBU where you are welcome to call people names.

MrsBearWasTired Fri 31-Jan-14 11:23:48

Ffs I am too slow at typing my 11.14 post was to kilmuir.

And also, maybe the op is doing homework of their own- this thread! Finding out different ways of helping her dd. Not sure calling someone stupid is particularly helpful.

AwfulMaureen Fri 31-Jan-14 11:26:13

Only stupid people call others stupid ime. It's born of insecurity. Obviously Kilmuir has no idea about how much time teachers have to explain the basics to people like me....they have little time...which is why I'm here! Asking patient Mnrs who don't mind explaining.

Passthecake30 Fri 31-Jan-14 11:30:22

My son is 6 in april and can do basic sums (on his fingers), count to 100, knows the 10 times table and 10s for number bonds.

He isnt doing great at school so far tbh, at the bottom ish for reading too,I wish they would give him some additional help, but they say he was a slow starter and is picking it up now.

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