Monkey - The idea is that he learns that hitting gets him no attention whatsoever whereas the 'hittee' gets lots of attention. It seems to work so far although I can see why you would think it would make the jealousy worse. I can't explain that one!!

I also try to encourage 'nice' physical contact such as stroking.

Gargarin's plan sounds very good <makes notes>

PS all children will do it again though - don't feel like you have 'failed' just because they aren't 'perfect' all the time.

Think Gagarin's advice is spot on.

Since very small, I have tried to say 'no hitting, stroke me' and show dd an alternative instead. If she does the alternative, she gets happy 'ah LOVELY stroking darling' mummy. If she continues to hit, she gets boring 'NO hitting' and putting her out of reach/walking away Mummy.

Very much agree that after a beat (10 secs is good - have never counted, just left a moment to let it sink in), you can be back to doing something else happy mummy again.

Think this is just Gagarin's advice in my words - but it DOES work. Dd is 2 now and very rarely hits!

Blimey I'm definitely not alone am I?! I am going with Gagarin's suggestion for now and it has certainly given him something to think about. He has only tried to whack me twice since I posted and he was surprised when I left him. Not really bothered, but certainly surprised. Let's hope it works.

Zazen it's a good suggestion about sign language. I have been signing with DS since he was 6 months and I think it has helped enormously until now, when he has dropped most of the signs as he has quite a good spoken vocabulary. We have avoided a lot of frustration. That is partly why I have been so puzzled over this. Good suggestion about tha water too - I don't drink enough myself and I am apt to forget sometimes that he might need a drink

Thanks again and good luck everyone.

You could try teaching him sign language.
I did with my DD and she hardly ever threw a hissy. She would just sign that she was thirsty, tired or wanted to go home.

On hot days toddlers need a HUGE amount of water to drink, so don't be shy about giving him lots and lots of water. And Low GI snacks - fruit, raisins and rice cakes, so he doesn't get stroppy cos of low and then high blood sugars.

Good luck. This phase doesn't last forever, and good luck with your pregnancy also!

Does that not make the jealousy worse Bristols? Not judging just asking.

My DS is the same age and does the same thing. It is sometimes directed at his 12 week old brother too

I say 'No hitting' and walk away from him and ignore him for a minute or so. If he has hit his brother, I say the same then take the baby into another room and make a fuss of him. If I am holding him, I put him down immediately.

I totally understand your frustration as I often feel the same. It's all worse with pregnancy hormones racing round too. You're not alone!

I'm having this problem too - ds nearly 2 and keen on suddenly smacking me round the face and laughing like a maniac. He has just discovered hair pulling today . Off to read becster's link!

I went through this and it stopped at about 23 months old. Had three months of hell.
Hang in there, it will pass, just be firm and consistent and calm. (but I think I've already said this to itsa)

only for a minute so so - I can see through into the living room too so can see he's okay

DS does this. I leave the room. Nothing else works in my expereince and even this only teaches them they get no attention for it - they have to realise that themselves though. Thankfully he likes my attention more

All you can do is keep saying it and if you're holding him put him down, my dd is the same age and is the same alhtough not hitting anyone else. I say no and ignore her for a very short while... 30 seconds or so. i don't expect her to stop straight away but know I must condemn that behaviour.... it's a long slow process!!

Ohh Im having this problem too and my ds is only 14mths. Huge row with my mum today when she decided to hit him back. Where did my sweet little baby go?

I understand the fine line between singing and shouting. People in the supermarket don't appreciate his singing. I can't understand what their problem is...

My little angel ate not a bite of his and is currently shouting singing into his daddy's microphone while I have a 'break'.

I'll give it a go My little angel has just eaten all his dinner like a good boy. He's so sweet 99%of the time.

Thanks thebecster, I too will follow gagarin's advice and keep my fingers crossed it works for us. Am I a bad mother for thinking that 10 seconds out of his company every now and then would not necessarily be a bad thing?

Sounds like it might work for you as well itsahardknocklife.

Yep, I get this too. You are not alone...

I had this exact problem - here's my thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=67&threadid=501936#10153465

I followed gagarin's advice to the letter - and it WORKED - hurrah! DS has stopped hitting, biting etc. almost completely now. It was a horrid phase - you have my sympathy. Also DH and I suspect it was due partly due to frustration because he was just starting to learn to speak but couldn't really communicate properly. Now he's made a bit of a leap forward with his speech and can tell us what he is upset about, which is much better. Good luck, you have my sympathy. I still have scars... literally.

DS has taken a long while to really understand it, he still ignores the "Nos" most of the time at 2.2. I googled up a few weeks ago about toddler behaviour etc. because DS can get very... toddlerish and what I came to again and again was at this age the focus is on distraction. Like when they throw a toy, swap it for a soft 'allowed to throw' toy etc. Although I still tell him off aswell. Toddlers, eh?!

Ds laughs when I tell him off He can't follow me out of the room because I have stairgates everywhere

He laughs at me if I look stern I think it is because I don't really need to most of the time as he is generally very well behaved, and so he's not used to seeing me like that.

It sounds like you have probably been doing it for longer than me and if the message sinks in eventually that is good to know, thanks.

Yep, tngs like leaving the room work well (well sometimes the follow you!) - ending the situation at this age rather than 'telling off' because (in the case of DS anyway) they just don't understand.

You have my sympathy although I can offer no advice. My DS is nearly 19months old and has taken to hitting me in the face and biting me. But only me
Telling him no hasn't worked so I now leave the room when he does it. Don't really know what else to do so I shall be following your thread to get advice!

I either say no firmly, making eye contact and looking stern, or if DS keeps going holding his arms (not harshly) and saying No. If he does it with a toy more than once (ie. after I say no) the toy is put on the table. Sometimes he will still come back and bonk it on my head, but it just goes back on the table, or in his room etc. and eventually he gets the idea about playing with toys properly. That's what's working for us ATM anyway.

DS is 20 months and a lovely, affectionate little boy. But over the last few weeks he has taken to pulling the hair of other children when they take a toy from him/have a toy he wants/stand too close. Not attractive but fairly normal I think and I have been dealing with it by saying No he musn't do it quite firmly and that it isn't kind, etc. He can't say sorry or anything yet so I have apologised to the other child for him.

This week he has added whacking me to his skills. From nowhere he will just smack me in the face or chest, sometimes quite hard. Sometimes it is because he is tired or wants something and I haven't responded quickly enough, other times I have no clue why he has done it.

I have tried being firm, saying no, ignoring it, explaining that it hurts me, even wailing and crying (this afternoon he split my lip with a hard plastic cup) So far nothing makes a difference. Is this a stage he will just grow out of or should I be doing something I haven't tried yet? It is especially wearing as I am 9 weeks pregnant and feel pretty crappy most of the time. I am still playing with him/reading/taking him out as much as ever though.

All advice would be welome, and if anyone has any body armour for sale that would be useful too.