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Mumsnet Discussions: Behaviour / development : nappy changing becoming a nightmare (34 messages)
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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bumbly on Sat 10-May-08 21:28:04
9 month old ..all of a sudden screams and tantrums and fits when put to lieing down for nappy changing

main problem is he kicks me in breasts on change mat - BIG time

almost smacked him yesterday - that is how bad it is and hubby today said he almost couldn't cope/restrain him too

don't know where this has come from out of the blue

is this normal for a 9 month old??

sometimes toys help but rarely

any tips or advice?

why doesn't he want dirty nappy esp poo to be removed???

dont want to not change his nappy but now it is almost getting to the point (not reached it yet as am pretty disciplined with it) of oh well only a wee lets wait till real poo comes along...

HELP
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By dylanthecat on Sat 10-May-08 21:57:52
my dd was the exactly the same at that age age so I did the wet ones with her standing up against the sofa and the others over my knee (that way you have more control over thier legs) and she was much happier and it didnt bother her any more.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bumbly on Sat 10-May-08 22:07:33
over the kneew? with a very dirty pooey nappy??...oohhh can't quite picture it...

hmmmm

[hmm}
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bumbly on Sat 10-May-08 22:07:47
hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By spiritofstlouis on Sat 10-May-08 22:08:39
I have had a similar problem with DS- he's now one and a little bit better. The only thing that works is ringing the phone and giving it to him as a special nappy changing treat- I pretend it's a phone call for him. Sad I know.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bumbly on Sat 10-May-08 22:12:19
good advice!

cute too!!!!!1
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bumbly on Sat 10-May-08 22:12:33
is it a boy thing?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By dylanthecat on Sat 10-May-08 22:17:18
changing her over my knee was never messy! changing her on the mat while she was kicking and trying to escape was though!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By sausagecake on Sat 10-May-08 22:17:35
Hi Bumbly, My DD 12 months started doing the same thing a couple of months ago now too. Still is but can handle a bit better now. I have been told that it is perfectly normal. Apparently they are just expressing themselves and practicing protesting (pushing their boundaries). Doesn't make it any easier to deal with I know. I always have a handful of useful objects that grabs her attention whilst changing her and sing fairly loudly (the end of the world by REM does the trick) very apt I thought!! It can drag you down I know but knowing it's just a phase and trying to see the lighter side of it will help. We have also put a mobile about the changing table to grab her attention too. x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Toothache on Sat 10-May-08 22:18:51
I remember a thread years ago about this and someone recommended 4 wooden steaks in the living room floor to tether their limbs.... worked for me!!!! smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By AitchTwoCiao on Sat 10-May-08 22:19:04
dd did it for about three months, it was hellish. fortunately dh was around a lot, it really was a two man job sometimes.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wrinklytum on Sat 10-May-08 22:20:23
Yes its normal!!

Prepare everything,handfulls of wipes out of packet before you start!! Give baby packet of wipes to play with,often keeps dd occupied although she still squirms

Bag for dirty stuff open and prepared

Clean nappy ready

Lie on back,remove nappy fastenings.grasp both legs with left hand near ankles.Wipe bottom with right.Fold over old nappy as you go along to prevent poo splatting everywhere.

Failing this,as they only usually poo once/twice daily(well mine did) run small bath.Remove pooey nappy dunk child in bath
and clean that way.

When weightbearing it is often easier if they are standing up and standing against something,with a toy to occupy them

hth.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wrinklytum on Sat 10-May-08 22:25:17
pmsl at toothache
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bumbly on Sat 10-May-08 22:37:19
pmsl??

by the way am in fits of laughter with your last post as you have got me to a tee

exaxctly how it is!!

oh the giggles

but yes it does get me real down in the day - not after in the ev with aglass fo wine

in the day it is a true nightmare!!!!!!!!!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MintChocAddict on Sat 10-May-08 22:42:30
DS 17 months has been doing this for months. His new trick is to run around the room with me chasing him. (What fun!) Once he's pinned down he screams and cries hysterically then pushes his feet against my stomach to manoeuvre himself away from me. I move closer to him and he does it again and again. As we move further and further across the room, he laughs like a hyena (spelling?) flips over and bolts off again! I'm feckin' exhausted! Bring on potty training grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bluenosesaint on Sat 10-May-08 22:43:01
My dd (10 months) is driving me MAD with this!!! Arrrgggh!!!

Having tried ...

A 'special' toy
Phone
Remote control
Music
Distraction
In front of telly
Over the knee

and failed miserably, i have now resorted to easy up pants. This does make wet nappies a little easier but makes no difference with dirty nappies i'm afraid angry

Had a lovely streak of poo to get out of the carpet earlier hmm
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Hopeysgirlwasntbig on Sat 10-May-08 22:45:03
there's something called a Rabbits mat, I'll see if I can find a link
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Hopeysgirlwasntbig on Sat 10-May-08 22:45:56
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wrinklytum on Sat 10-May-08 22:47:35
Bumbly,sorry,I think we are at cross purposes,somewhere.My first post I was genuinely trying to help.The second where i put PMSL was not aimed at your predicament but at the poster,Toothaches' suggestion of 4 stakes to tie baby down to stop them zooming off,I wish I could do this with dd.She is 2.5 but has learning disabilities and still needs her nappy changing like you would a 9month old as she doesn't stand on her own,but boy does she wriggle and it is difficult not to end up covered in pooSo I do sympathise
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MintChocAddict on Sat 10-May-08 22:53:05
Forgot to add, when it's a nappy of the number two variety (never just a wet one), DS always makes an attempt to grab and fling before I can get it into the nappy sack. He has lightning quick reactions where dirty nappies are concerned and seems to find both number 2's and bottom burps highly amusing! Typical man wink.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bumbly on Sat 10-May-08 22:54:31
hi wrinkly..i understood your post don't worry ... just not good with acronyms!

thanks!!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bumbly on Sat 10-May-08 22:55:19
oh my gosh these relies worry me...it could go on for months...oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MintChocAddict on Sat 10-May-08 23:32:30
Sorry didn't mean to worry you. Chances are it'll settle down fairly soon. I've asked friends and DS rather extreme nappy changing antics do seem to be unsual and prolonged. Their DC phased out of this after a couple of months. DS is very strong willed in other ways so putting it down to his personality! Can't wait for those teenage years wink.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ratbunny on Sat 10-May-08 23:36:48
I used to give ds something he wasnt allowed to have - like dh's phone grin, the nail clippers anything he cant usually have. He is being closely supervised (but obv dont give him the steak knives!) so it doesnt matter, but it made life so much easier.
Now (15 mo) I tempt him over with a toy, grab him, whip his nappy off and clean him, and by then he has usually broken free and is running away laughing and trying to pee on the floor. So maybe dont take advice from me wink
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Meandmyjoe on Sun 11-May-08 06:54:02
Hiya Bumbly- We have exactly the same kind of baby!! All the threads I keep bumping into you on! Just wanted to let you know that mine's the same. Always disliked nappy changes and getting dressed but now he is able to wriggle away and sit up from laying down, he just screams til he sits himself up of wriggles away! No fun, no advice but you're not alone.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By PerkinWarbeck on Sun 11-May-08 07:28:37
my DD was like this for 2 long months.

she was learning to cruise and WOULD NOT sit down. It was an unpleasant wrestling match every time.

She grew out of it by 12 months, and at 14 months fetches the changing mat when she's had a poo!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By lackaDAISYcal on Sun 11-May-08 07:59:11
learn the art of changing baby on your lap. DD loves looking at the world upside down whilst I get on with it.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MayPolerBear on Sun 11-May-08 08:03:32
my ds is just like this! 12 months
most of the time he poos pre-bath, or on an evening when dh is around for pinnning dutiees
OTOH he has had diarrhoea for about the last 6 weeks so that has been fun
We have 2 changing mats which we alternate - one in the bath getting miltoned and showered down, other in use.
have tried giving him a toy /forbidden item but he seems to find it amusing to smear it in the contents of his nappy.
Usually end up just fighting with him.
Would love to think it will be over in 2 months
(although from reading this thread I do think it has got better)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MayPolerBear on Sun 11-May-08 08:04:23
all these lap changers!!! I do not see how that would work without getting poo on yourself too! Do you have the mat on your lap too?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MayPolerBear on Sun 11-May-08 08:05:19
i always end up washing his hands as well as mine too - still, not a bad thing to get him used to it early.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By BumperliciousNeedsToSleep on Sun 11-May-08 08:13:58
Oh god, we have just started this with DD (10mo). She complains whenever I lay her down and even if I have her ankles she flips right over. I'm usually chasing a (very cute) bum with the nappy grin

It's quite funny sometimes as she is v cute, but after 4 or 5 changes it starts to become a drag. We can no longer change her on the chest of drawers like we used to.

We give her a toothbrush which she loves and sometimes keeps her happy. I've started doing it over my knees too.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MayPolerBear on Sun 11-May-08 08:32:04
it is very cute
yes and the handstand they do when you're holding their ankles
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By lackaDAISYcal on Sun 11-May-08 08:33:17
lol bumper, that's another good ruse....give them something they normally covet but aren't allowed, like the TV remote or your mobile phone...or big brother's transformers wink

knee changing.....you just lift the bum clear by holding the ankles and use the wet, but not soiled front bit of the nappy to wipe most of the poo off. I've never had poo on me, even when DD had a very bad tummy bug.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ElenorRigby on Tue 13-May-08 20:20:11
Entirely normal...I asked some other parents at DD's baby group! One mum said her angelic 9 month old son was a 3 man job! shock

DD is a horrendous wriggler to tame her, Im getting a Rabbitt changing mat! * crosses fingers *


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