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Mumsnet Discussions: Relationships : are there actually any nice men out there then? (or am I asking too much) (39 messages)
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Elasticwoman on Sat 17-May-08 22:27:18
There are plenty of nice men out there, although I've only ever married one of them.

These are some of his good points:

Has always encouraged and helped me to do well, make best of self.

Has never been jealous of any success I've had or competitive.

Has always encouraged me to have my own friends and interests.

He knows I'm hell to live with when bored and helps prevent that.

He enabled (but did not force) me to be at home with our dc when they were babies.

He's very reliable, he communicates, he's honest.

He looks like himself, not Brad Pitt, and his wallet has varied in size over the years since I've known him.

I met him during Fresher's Week at college.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MsHighwater on Sat 17-May-08 22:19:43
You and me both, Bridie3 grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By davidtennantsmistress on Sat 17-May-08 22:18:08
es - my MIL said much the same - but as I see it now, i'm 26, I have a child, and do have a past, but I see to attract/go for the wrong types - ie abusers/manipulators, so am thinking by having a firytale about it all - a prince charming as it were it might help to raise the bar a bit! lol. (ie be more fussy about who I talk to!)

there has to be one out there! lol. so until he comes along i'm not getting involved with anyone!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By yogimum on Sat 17-May-08 22:11:10
I know a lovely single guy who is dh best friend. There are nice guys out there.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Snaf on Sat 17-May-08 22:05:54
I have given up hope.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By turquoise on Sat 17-May-08 22:03:30
Sorty to hear about your relationship, DTM.

I know several lovely, decent, honest men. All married and likely to stay that way.

Haven't met one decent single man in decades, and at 43, don't think I'm likely to.

sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Sat 17-May-08 21:56:50
if you ditch the idea of the fairytale, it's not so hard to find a nice man.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Bridie3 on Sat 17-May-08 21:55:50
I hope he's not the same one, MsHighwater. wink
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MsHighwater on Fri 16-May-08 22:58:39
They do exist. Mine is one but, like Bridie3's, he's not available smile. I hope you find yours.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By davidtennantsmistress on Fri 16-May-08 22:47:10
do they lw that's interesting to know, i'm very much a cautious person esp in love & esp when it involves my DS.

all he kept saying thou was 'will you trust me' and I know what i'm doing just trust me - well to me trust is earnt and not given out freely (at least mine isn't)

as I say cardboard box! lol. have left mobile at home switched off, & told XH that if he rings my house XH is to tell him to leave me alone!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewoman on Fri 16-May-08 22:34:57
They say when people are too hot, too soon, then they cool off just as quickly. Sorry if you are hurt, DTM - enjoy your singledom for the time being, and better luck next time ((()))
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By davidtennantsmistress on Fri 16-May-08 22:24:54
no don't worry bout it.

have given up on it all now - am waiting for angel (forget the man's name!) to knock on me door - give it ooh a life time and he might! wink
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By citylover on Fri 16-May-08 22:18:50
sorry dtm should have started own thread. Think I hijacked yours a little bit.

Despite everything I do believe there are nice men out there!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By davidtennantsmistress on Fri 16-May-08 20:20:55
yeah it's odd, it's an old account of his which we were using as a joint a.c for reasons I don't really want to go into on here.

zip - I was content to play it by ear - i'm a v much in my own time girl, he was pushy from the off. v much so. I was wanting increasingly to ahve my own space etc and every time I asked for it he got shittier.

better off alone in a cardboard box. as JK says! wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By zippitippitoes on Fri 16-May-08 20:14:50
i have to say davidts i was strugling to work this out as well

you seem to have got in deep very quick
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By oxocube on Fri 16-May-08 20:11:41
Shit, just read the whole thread blush.

So - you have been dating for only a few months.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By oxocube on Fri 16-May-08 20:09:11
DTM - am I being really thick here (very possible!) or have you been dating boyfriend for only a short while? I seem to remember you talking about dating etc as recently as 6 months back but I could be confusing you with someone else. If this is a recent relationship, can I be a bit cheeky and suggest that 'joint MSN accounts' are a bit OTT. In fact, if only dating, I would consider joint anything really weird hmm

Sorry if I have got this wrong and caused offense.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Bridie3 on Fri 16-May-08 19:55:14
I've got one.

Not sharing him.

Sorry.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Pinkchampagne on Fri 16-May-08 19:49:33
Sounds like you had a lucky escape there then. Onwards & upwards!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By davidtennantsmistress on Fri 16-May-08 18:43:56
dp started out perfectly, but over the last 2 weeks or so he's really changed, pretty much into the same sort of person as my very first boyfriend (I was 14, and he was 21). better off out of it as that particular relationship was really really not healthy & screwed me up. (hence XH! lol)
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewoman on Fri 16-May-08 18:27:50
My new dp isn't Brad Pitt (or even Brad Pittesque), he's short and overweight and has no money, but he is the nicest man I know. He tries very hard to be a good person.

Citylover, sad not TMI. It goes to show there are a lot of wrong'uns out there if we are not careful. What a shame none of are wise until we've had wisdom knocked into us by experience. There are lovely men out there though. I know three, and I don't have a huge circle of friends, so there must be lots more
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By davidtennantsmistress on Fri 16-May-08 18:17:38
ud - hey i'm not bothered by wallet size, and ave looks will suit me i'm not that picky - jsut as long as they're respectful and treat me good (ie no abusing) in any way shape or form.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By UnquietDad on Fri 16-May-08 18:08:06
I think a lot of "nice" men - and there are a lot - get overlooked because

a) They don't look like Brad Pitt

b) Their wallets are not fat enough.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By davidtennantsmistress on Fri 16-May-08 18:05:07
pc - er a little under 4 months, for the last 2-3 weeks there has been so many alarm bells going off, with him starting to get controlling/manipulative & tbh I don't need the hassle.

re XH, er well, over the last week, i've realised (pretty much since my family & friend met XP actually) that I am still in love with my H, for how long I don't know, but it's true, I asked him today (XH) if there was something about me that makes me unloveable or something, he said no, don't worry about him (meaning XP) so I said yeah but it's not just him is it?? XH then said yeah well we all know you don't mean me, we all know you hate me, so I said do I? you're my husband and i'd start over again, but I know it's not what you want is it?

(once before I asked & he come straight back & said no we're over no chances) this time he's said nothing, he came over & had a small chat about XP and XH said not to worry.

my gut feeling on XH is he's confused, ut on the other hand I think he also wants to have his cake n eat it (something he won't be able to have with me) but I would start over right from the beginning with him, the dating etc thing. have left the ball in his court - he's not said yes, he's not said no, but for now this is a man free zone, I've decided, no men now until at least xmas, need some me time to heal.

jesus city lover - n I thought my life so far has been haggared. do you want to join me on a no men sex ban until xmas? ((hugs))

i'm going to hold out for the one perfect man now, the one who's either david from bones, or david tennant. I want the fairytale n to be treated like a princess, so nothing less will suffice now.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By citylover on Fri 16-May-08 16:48:46
I know this is a bit negative but I was lying in bed last night (bit upset for various reasons) thinking that since I was 15 on the man/relationship front it has largely been a long rollercoaster ride of crap, angst and heartache with a few high spots along the way.

15-17 first proper boyfriend got in trouble with police and got sent away for three months. Stuck by him to the horror of my family but did see the light in the end. He hs not been in trouble since AFAIK.

little gap in between where I played the field (dating only)

19 -26 Went out with and lived with this guy, bought a house together and we eventually split because I wanted to move away from home town and he didn't. He seemed to age 100 years when we moved in together.

27-30 Moved away from home town and studied for degree played the field. Nothing that serious until

31 - met man who I think is love of life. Wnet out for a while. Ended over something very silly I flounced, it backfired and he was stubborn if I remember rightly, but chemistry and everything else amazing. Devasted. Swore off men for ever after him I was really so hurt.

HOWEVER

32 Met exDH (on rebound?) got married, two DSs (now 11 and 6). Separated 2006, divorced 2007. Our marriage very difficult due to incompatibility and his controlling and ultimately destructive ways.

2007 July met ex again (love of my) life seeing him again since then but still a bit bumpy for various external reasons. Not sure what the outcome will be.

Along way have been raped, had an abortion, had arm twisted behind back for refusing (not by any of these men I hasten to add)

All I would like is a mutually loving relationship with a guy I love and respect who will make me feel loved and respected. Is that too much to ask. Maybe it will come one day to me?

Sorry maybe TMI, hope not too depressing but very cathartic. And maybe the result of not wanting to settle when younger for a comfortable and predictable life.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Pinkchampagne on Fri 16-May-08 15:51:31
Sorry to hear that, DTM.sad How long had you been together?
Would you get back with your ex?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By davidtennantsmistress on Fri 16-May-08 14:55:01
lol. well me n DP have split up this am. by text I might add - the bastard. angry

and now XH is making noises again so god knows!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By TattooedGrrrl on Fri 16-May-08 14:30:52
they aren't all shits- my DH is kind, intelligent, calm, funny and knows how to use a hoover. I met him by chance in the street (i'm not a hooker- honest!)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Pinkchampagne on Fri 16-May-08 13:57:23
My new man (well 9 months new!) is totally lovely. He makes me feel special, he is mature, intelligent, generous, and looks pretty gorgeous too! I had years of struggling with ex H, and couldn't imagine meeting someone so lovely.

He had just separated from his wife when I first met him, so was lucky to meet him when I did, or he would have been snapped up pretty quickly!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By barnical on Fri 16-May-08 13:46:47
I got a lovely one too. Think he's brill. say and does the right things at the right times ( most of the time) and I wouldn't swap him for the world.

But I did kiss a few frogs and married a Troll before I met my now DH.

( we met online)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By davidtennantsmistress on Fri 16-May-08 09:26:00
lmao@ lw! think i'm destined to be alone!

BF is trying to get me to take a walk on the dark side as she calls it, and tbh, i'm the same wouldn't trust any woman! i've come to the conclusion now the only people I can trust is myself and my family, n no one else. (which is a sad state of affairs really)

DP is not talking to me today, and has blocked me on msn (we have a joint account as well & joint email for stuff we were selling which he uses a lot still - wouldn't mind but said email address also had various emails from dating sites which fair enough he'd not read but were from this month )

I guess i'm being hot headed again.

lol@ sally & willie, I think you're right you know no nice ones out there, althou I have been asked for a coffee by an old friend tomorrow morning who is nice. (then again not really interested! lol)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ByTheSea on Fri 16-May-08 09:03:37
My DH is lovely, entirely supportive of me and holds up his end really well and I want to grow old with him, but he came with a lot of baggage that after 11 years is increasingly difficult to tolerate.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By littlewoman on Fri 16-May-08 09:00:40
grin @ wileEC & SallyS.

Come on girls - everyone has bad days and good days.
The bad ones have good days, the good ones have bad days.

I don't know any women I can trust, any more than men I can trust. Except my mum. And God forbid I should find her attractive lol.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By kat2907 on Fri 16-May-08 07:15:19
Even tho mine is shit at housework he's lovely everywhere else honest!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By WileECoyote on Fri 16-May-08 00:43:27
I'm losing hope.

Though it's not quite the blow it could be given that I no longer believe in nice relationships. ('Scuse the bitterness....counselling starts next week )

I do find women sexually attractive. At present I wouldn't have a relationship with another female because
a) I no longer believe in nice relationships and
b) I'm fearful that my opinion of whether or not there are nice women out there will take a nosedive (currently believe there are many, myself being one of them ;)) if it were to go tits up....therefore leaving me at odds with the human race as a whole. Inclusive, potentially and probably, of myself grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By sallystrawberry on Thu 15-May-08 23:50:09
its a cruel joke that nature plays on us, you fall in love with a bloke, possibly get married, maybe have children and then the veil falls and you realise what a shit your actually married to.

I can't think of any men that I like/have respect for/admire/trust, I did think one friend had a fantastic dh, then he had an affair.

sorry to any nice men out there

sometimes I really wish I could find women sexually attractive because I can think of lots of women who I like, admire and trust.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By LyraSilvertongue on Thu 15-May-08 23:36:27
Have a read of this thread. it will restore your faith that there are actually lots of decent men out there.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By micci25 on Thu 15-May-08 23:34:53
there are lots of nice men out there most of them are living with their boyfriend but a very small number of them have very very very lucky wives!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By davidtennantsmistress on Thu 15-May-08 23:23:33
... if so where are they? after all the stuff that's been on MN over the recent nights, not to mention DP and I having a mega barny tonight.

are there actually any nice ones out there, n if so are they single/where did you meet your DH's/P's?

all I want is the following on my list:

to feel loved & special to said person,
to feel like nothing else matters apart form us n the kids.

is it really too much to ask, to want the fairytale after a shitty few years being married. DP will prob ring me at some point tomorrow but after being asked consistently for the last week 'am I enough for you' I really don't think I have the energy for it anymore. n we had started off so well together as well - we're both tired, n prob need a break from each other already - but we talk every night for at least 2-3 hours +.

and yes i'm prob still in love with my XH - even if he has been a total tosser.


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