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Mumsnet Discussions: Relationships : Fab & Glam Part 4 - Spring into Happiness! (1001 messages)
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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Mon 17-Mar-08 13:26:49
Good Lord people, we've filled a thread up in about 6 weeks!

Anyways, here's a link to the venue Tanee suggested for a picnic:

www.coramsfields.org/index.php

Looks fabulous so let's get planning!

ps: sorry for London/Southern centric take on this but we'll plan hits around the rest of the country too I promise.

pps: Lily, get yer butt on FB woman!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Baffy on Mon 17-Mar-08 13:30:40
Hellooooo!

Finally I'm back!!

Yes TFM it's the brand new company car that decided to pack up on me! Apparently the gear box has gone!

We got in just after 11 last night. Bit tired, but other than that not too bad!

Was really brilliant to see you all. Sorry I was up and down to ds. Couldn't really join in the conversation properly.
But I think you're all absolutely brilliant! Can't wait to see you again.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Mon 17-Mar-08 13:39:18
Baffy, you and me both with the running after toddlers! at least your ds obeyed his mummy in not going too far up the steps.

my monkey completely ignored me and not only went further up the steps in view but carried on up the stairs to the next floor!

anyways, it was fab to have you stay. your ds was a proper star munching his garlic bread whilst we sipped our fizz grin

hope the car drama hasn't put you off coming down again.

am seriously considering booking a week to tenerife with a couple of other single parents off that singlewithkids website.

anyone else fancy it? 11-18th April......
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Baffy on Mon 17-Mar-08 13:39:21
And big thanks again to pc for putting up with us! And for our picnic! The taxi driver must have been wondering what he did to deserve us in the car - we spent the first hour eating sandwiches, crisps and the easter egg! Then watched a dvd. Then fell asleep the rest of the way! (We did offer him some chocolate though! And ds sang him a few wiggles songs!! blush )
Great journey for us!! wink

Wish I'd have had a few glasses of wine in the day now though! What a waste drinking coke all day.
Next time we need more wine! wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Baffy on Mon 17-Mar-08 13:41:40
ooh x posts then

I would fancy the holiday away but I won't be able to get the time off that soon.

But perhaps like we were talking about maybe later in the year... that sounds really good.

And I must apologise too - ds is still referring to your dd's room as 'my room' and her kitchen is 'my kitchen' blush he certainly made himself at home didn't he!! grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Mon 17-Mar-08 13:41:43
lol, i did offer to put that bottle of rose in the picnic grin

can you imagine what the taxi driver would've thought then pmsl
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Mon 17-Mar-08 13:45:03
x-post galore!

typical bloke your ds, feet right under the table! seriously tho, he was an absolute pleasure and he and dd got on really well on the whole. dd was wondering where you were this morning but was adamant that you weren't taking her home with you, bless!

shame about tenerife, we'd have a great time. deffo on for a week end june/early july at my friends' van if it's available tho.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By lilyloo on Mon 17-Mar-08 13:45:34
picnic would be lovely pref big open field fenced in then dc's can run to their hearts content wink
I know PC i keep meaning too , what do i need to do ?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Mon 17-Mar-08 13:47:46
corams fields looks just the trick Lily, you can't get in unless you've got a child!

go to www.facebook.com and set yourself up a profile. when you've done that tell me and i'll invite you to join our super secret group!
grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By lilyloo on Mon 17-Mar-08 13:53:43
sounds good then smile
Will go over there and join up as soon as dd has finished painting my nails and i have fed dd2 all at once , multi tasking i think they call it grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By sugarpear on Mon 17-Mar-08 14:06:58
Part 4!! my word we can talk. Lucky aren't we grin

Baffy glad you got home safely. Ditto to everyone else for that on getting home safe.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Tanee58 on Mon 17-Mar-08 14:22:12
Hi everyone, whilst I was reading the old thread, it ran out of space! Tracked you down though...

Thank you everyone for your lovely comments, they've helped me resign myself to my Advancing Years - I've checked my birth cert - it looks like it was written in Victorian times but the faded ink definitely says '1958' sad. I DO have this portrait in the attic....grin

Lovely photos on FB - I showed my group photo to DP and his comment was, for a group of dirty old men, you look good.

Dior, of course, really IS a hairy biker - but DP said, 'she looks like Liz Hurley!' so you see, Dior, there are two who think this, one of them a mere man - so face the fact - you are gorgeous! smile And thank you so much for the bracelet. It's beautiful, and I shall treasure it the more for you having made it!

DD was bemused by us all and approves of the Teabags en masse - she'll like the Chelsea comparison - I think hmmgrin. We thought all the MiniTeabags were so sweet and really well behaved - and PC's daughter was a terrific character - and VERY quick on her feet! It got me wondering whether a tracking device for toddlers could be developed. Baffy, your DS is a little gent -and a great dancer.

Lillybubble, your DD is gorgeous - 'the wrong shade of pink' indeed grin - she's going to look as stylish as you when she's older.

Yes, we must definitely go to Corams Fields when it's warmer - we'll be able to relax and definitely take some wine wink. I particularly like the fact that you can't get in with a child and no child is allowed to leave without an adult. The kids can feed the animals, so we used to take old carrots for the goats. It's an amazing place to find in the middle of Bloomsbury and has quite a history to it.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Dior on Mon 17-Mar-08 16:25:11
Liz Hurley who ate all the pies!

Next meet up, I WILL be thinner.

Glad you liked the bracelet Tanee. I wanted to give you something hand-made, but I don't know you well, so couldn't guess what colours you liked. I like turquoise though, so opted for that!

Baffy - glad to hear you got home safely.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Mon 17-Mar-08 16:29:04
right, i am officially angry with Ms Baffy.

She brought a big box of Quality Street and I've just stuffed about 6 down me in one go!

Dior, you do look like Liz Hurley. Don't get hung up on the weight thing. We think you're gorgeous.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Dior on Mon 17-Mar-08 16:33:44
Blimey - I'm all touched now <sniff>. Thank you all for being so fab. I really AM hung up on my weight and am beating myself up over my eating at the moment, but can't seem to stop!

New tumble dryer arrived today, so I can tackle Mount Everest tonight (my washing pile grin). My tumble dryer HAD to break in the worst two weeks of weather we have had this year didn't it angry.

I meant to say that I was really impressed with ALL the little tea-bags yesterday. They were so well-behaved and polite. I know T scared you PC, but she really was good. Like I said, ds was an escape artist at that age! I had to leg it after him quite often!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Mon 17-Mar-08 16:46:52
thanks dior, she is gorgeous and i am too hard on her sometimes.

first time she's ever done it and the emotions that were going thru me for the 3 mins were so strong. gave me the smallest inkling of what it must be like for parents who's kids really do go missing.

i cannot imagine how they survive it.

oh dear, another quality street just jumped out the box and out the wrapper and into my mush!

grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Mon 17-Mar-08 16:47:17
Wow another thread!!

Dior dont know what you did to me but i just cant stop eating today so i will be big as a whale next time smile. Diet not going too well today - well there is always tomorrow.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Tanee58 on Mon 17-Mar-08 16:58:41
Dior, I LOVE turquoise and it goes well with my skin tone. I'm a turquoise, burgundy and black person (you can't go wrong with burgundy and black, they hide the bumps!!)

PC, T is a little star! I lost L in C&A once, and yes, it was the worst day of my life - especially after the Jamie Bulger case which I cried over as L was a baby at the time.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By sugarpear on Mon 17-Mar-08 17:13:47
Hw/dior i know you both prob thought i was talking tosh but i honestly think the pink patch was fab. Well it worked for me for the 1 week i tried it and i've ordered more and if it doesnt work before the next meet then im going to give up on dieting and live like a whale and be happy!

Pc that darn choclate! lol
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By sugarpear on Mon 17-Mar-08 17:18:05
Altho could do with bucket of it right now to calm me down.

DD1 borrowed my spare phone sat night when she went round her friends. Her friends eldest sis decided to sneak phone into her room and along with her friend not only use 20 pound of my credit but went through my voice mails and my private texts to h and called some of my friends. Have spoken to the mum and she is as outraged as me and is going to get her dd to pay the credit back.

Now dd2 has just brought my nintendo ds down out of her pig hole room claiming that "someone" came into her room and trod on it! So thats now busted so im pretty angry now!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Mon 17-Mar-08 18:12:12
Tanee, I have seen the photo's of the meetup and not only do you not look 50, you are blooming stunning! Your dd is gorgeous too.

Looking at those photo's anyone would think you had all known each other for years. I am so pleased you had such a fab time BUT CAN YOU STOP GOING ON ABOUT IT NOW AND TALK TO TFM INSTEAD gringrin

Only Joking girls. PC, baffy was meant to eat the chocs. You have been done!!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Mon 17-Mar-08 18:34:24
stitched up like a kipper grin

just told my mother i might book this singlewithkids holiday and also had to "reveal" some details about how we all know each other.

she is desperately trying not to say "oh my god! you are being careful aren't you? they could all be complete nutters!"

fair go to her tho, she's holding herself back for now. there will be a few niggly comments and lots of fishing going on next time i see her tho!

grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Mon 17-Mar-08 18:39:45
I think you are brilliant! I am hoping that by the time I have finished with myself I will have the confidence to do just the same as you. And you never know, you might just meet up with a gorgeous, hunky, kind and sensitive single dad wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Baffy on Mon 17-Mar-08 20:07:34
lol you lot

sugar not surprised you're angry not sure what to say about all that! shock

I'm just sitting at the computer with ds and showing him the photos and he wants to go back to the 'party' again! grin

My mum just came in so I too have had to reveal a bit more.

She just thinks you're all brilliant though, especially for all the support you've given me. I do feel really humbled about that, especially after seeing you all in person. You're all amazing.

Only thing is though....

I am slightly gutted that not one of you is a man!!!

PC what did you think of the RAC guy?? He was nice! And he rang me 3 times today!He said he was calling about my car, and was going on about getting it to the dealer and what I need to do about the courtesy car... a likely story!!! grin wink grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Mon 17-Mar-08 20:27:46
sugar, i would be sooo angry !!!!!

baffy, yeah i thought he was nice too. he deffo only had eyes for you tho girl! unfortunately the one who came to get the car this morning was only about 12. i thought about asking him if he had a license LOL!

TFM, if i do book that holiday it'll be mainly down to you giving me the courage to do it!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Mon 17-Mar-08 20:28:58
note to self: do not go on the pull with baffy unless prepared to take 2nd best with the cute guy's minging mate

grin grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Mon 17-Mar-08 21:00:33
Baffy <<<TFM says in deep, gruff voice>>> you ain't met me yet love, you might be in for a bit of a surprise in the trouser department! grin grin

PC, go for it!! Please, life is short and dd is only young once, don't do what I did and spend all of her life scared to take the plunge! I have wasted so much of mine and my childrens lives (IYSWIM) Just go for it. whats the worst that can happen? smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Mon 17-Mar-08 21:04:24
PC you need the ugly one's to practice on ready for when you meet the real deal. Youv'e got to kiss a few frogs you know wink just make sure you throw em back in the pond afterwards!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Mon 17-Mar-08 21:12:21
i've kissed enuff frogs now, just need to perfect that chucking back thing!

grin

am so close to booking, now freaking myself out with "oh my god dd doesn't have any summer clothes!"

lol
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Mon 17-Mar-08 21:20:32
Go to Asda, you can get her a pack of 3 tshirts for about £3 and same with shorts. They have loads of cheap clothes but they are quite good in quality.

Any more excuses you want me to get rid of? grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Mon 17-Mar-08 21:24:38
You will have such a fab time. I really wish I hadn't let 'everything' get in the way of doing things with my children. I am determined dd won't miss out. I am going to get back on track for her sake!! smile

Now book it! grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ginnedup on Mon 17-Mar-08 21:31:16
OMG 3000 posts - what chatterboxes we are!!!
Do it PC!!! It will be great and do you both the world of good! Think of the sun, this country is so depressing at the moment.
Glad you got home OK Baffy - good on you for pulling the RAC man!!!
The park looks brilliant Tannee - my dc would love it they are animal mad (actually sometimes they are animals!)
PC - ds1 went missing for a minute or two on Sunday too - he wandered off behind the speakers in the corner to investigate, I know he's 8 and very sensible but my heart still went, till I found him.
Anyway, I'm off for an early night tonight, back to work tomorrow sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By lilybubble on Mon 17-Mar-08 22:48:36
Hello girls, my goodness thread 4!! Had a feeling that might have happened

Dior, you really DO look like Liz Hurley!!! I couldn't quite think who you reminded me of, but that's definitely it!

Lol Tanee, dd must have thought we were all batty!! Yes I am going to have (more!) trouble with her when she gets older, I dread to think......

Baffy, get you pulling the RAC man!!! Love it! As I walked home I was thinking it was quite amazing no alcohol was consumed. THough can you imagine what we would have been like with wine involved, lol!?

PC, aw it was awful for you when T ran off, it's so, so scary how quickly it can happen. She wasn't bothered at all was she, little minx! They all do it though!!

sugar - angry about ds lite.... not good! Nor about the phones. Hope they make it up to you!

TFM, how's you?

GU, such a shame about your camera. Your DS was lovely, so well behaved! He was great at the RFH, tearing around, bless him!

All good here. Had a bit of a scare earlier as dd was doubled up in pain when I picked her up from nursery. Got her some milk of magnesia, she fell asleep on the way home, and, well, let's just say that I think it must have been trapped wind!! She made a v fast recovery thankfully!

Coram's Fields is a great idea. Can I recommend the book "Coram Boy" by Jamila Gavin, which gives the history of James Coram, who the area is named after. It's a kids book, but a bit like Harry Potter / His Dark Materials, it's very readable for adults too. It's fab.

Got a big night out tomorrow which I'm v excited about, the press night of one of our shows, a big musical called Jersey Boys. Got a nice frock out ready, and looking forward to letting my hair down!!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By macdoodle on Mon 17-Mar-08 22:53:05
struggling tonight baby overtired and had screaming ab dabs still feeling anxious when she does though DD1 got ignored and snapped at so then developed "sore bits" hmm
didn't get to eat any dinner or have cuddle/story time with DD1
And H got hump cos I didn't answer the phone when he rang half dozen times in middle of this angry
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Tue 18-Mar-08 07:37:15
McD

Try not to be too hard on yourself - we all have days when it just seems to fall apart and we shout and ignore dcs. They are very yourng and they really dont pick up on it all and soon you will be back on top of it all (and then it will all go wrong again!!). Take some time out for you today - have a nice bath or something.

PC book that holiday and borrow some clothes for dd or find a charity shop - we have this great second hand shop for children where yuo get 50% of the money of the clothes you take. dd4 has/had practically everything from there. I found some lovey summer dresses in sainsburys too recently.

Baffy - you will have men falling at your feet all the time - make the most of it while you can.

Sugar hope you have calmed down.

My ds was telling me to be careful about meeting up with you lot - but was interested to know about you - i think he thinks its quite cool of his mum actually.

Off to the hairdressers today may try something different.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Tue 18-Mar-08 09:03:18
morning all

Mac, sorry to hear you had a bad evening. As HW says, it does happen. At the end of a long day everyone gets a bit frazzled. I sometimes snap at dd as I'm tucking her in after 5 minutes of "pull it down a bit" and "my legs not straight" and "my pillows not right" and "where's my monkey" and "cuddle cuddle cuddle" and "one more kiss mummy" and "don't forget to wash my cup up".

altho i never leave the room in a huff she can push me to the edge with her pre-sleep demands lol!

have made some more enquiries about the holiday. good tips on Asda and charity shops. Will check it out.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Dior on Tue 18-Mar-08 09:34:58
Shit, bugger, bum, etc etc. Saw G this morning, after I had dropped ds' car seat at my mum's. He was waiting for the lights to change, to cross the road and I'm sure he recognised my car. I jusr pursed my lips and resolutely looked away blush. He looked GOOD though and I remember why I fancied him. In this case, absence makes the heart stronger, not fonder!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 10:48:15
Morning everyone! smile

TFM is back! I feel brilliant today, soooo positive and, I could even be described as feeling quite perky grin I think I am definately over the worst.

Onwards and Upwards we go!!

Definately give Asda a look PC, you will be amazed how much you can get for your money, Primark is good too.
We have a family holiday booked for the end of July hmm DS asked P what is going to happen now, P said he is going to drive us there and then come home. When I first heard I had a little panic attack but now I'm thinking why the heck not. If he wants to do that then it's fine by me, me and the kids will have a great time grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Tue 18-Mar-08 10:53:56
TFM, glad to hear you're feeling chipper.

holiday without P sounds fabulous to me! maybe we can organise a travelling teabag event and come and see you too.

it's possible my tenerife plan may be scuppered - might have to go to the States with work in the next couple of weeks. should know more later.

Lily, you are so rock n roll!

Dior, glad you refrained from making eye contact with G. Even if he did look good you know for a fact it's barely skin deep with that GW!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Dior on Tue 18-Mar-08 11:00:02
Yes, but it was a bit of a shock! The old stomach went IYKWIM! I'm ok now and not pining, which is a relief!

TFM - a holiday without p sounds FAB! Where are you going <Dior wonders if she can gatecrash grin>
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 11:00:14
Now that would be great! I am not holding my breath at the moment though. Once he finds out that I am all for it he will probably change his mind, in which case it will be me staying home and the Teabags will have to come here grin

The states! For work? Crikey, I never got sent to the States for work! Will it be as exciting as it sounds?

Yes Dior, What PC said grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Dior on Tue 18-Mar-08 11:00:57
He is only skin deep, he is only skin deep, he is only skin deep...

<repeats mantra ad nauseum>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Tue 18-Mar-08 11:10:09
probably won't be as exciting as it sounds tbh.

i am quite keen to go as will look good on the CV. also brownie points plus it will be a bit exciting too.

am torn between looking forward to a few days away in a hotel with adults and being away (soo sooo soooo far) from dd for so long.

parents have said they can have her which is great.

tfm, you could always can your holiday up there and join me and baffy in a caravan down here!

dior, keep self medicating - you're doing a great job!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 11:29:56
Dior, just picture him on the toilet having a poo, it works wonders! grin

PC I know how you feel, I would feel the same but, dd will be absolutely fine and she will probably have a wail of a time with grandma and grandad! Meanwhile, you should take every opportunity to spend time with adults that come your way. Chances like this don't pop up that often. And you know, these things happen for a reason, maybe, just maybe ..... you may meet a Prince instead of a frog! smile

The holiday is a caravan holiday in Weymouth PC. I am really hoping that he didn't just say that to ds in hope it would get back to me and cause a reaction, I really hope he meant it. I would love to go on holiday without him. I know dd won't want to go on holiday without me though, I'm trying not to think about what I will do if he decides he is going. I really have no desire to share a holiday with him.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Tue 18-Mar-08 11:43:46
tfm, she will have a ball and will barely miss me you are so right! i'll take my laptop so we can webcam. i would only leave her with my parents even tho i think H would probably come thru if needed. My CM is registered over night too but altho I think my CM is great she's a bit stricter than me and I think dd would be quite confused by staying with her.

of course, i could be totally over protective and irrational on this LOL! either way tho, i can be 100% certain that she will be loved and cared for by her GPs exactly as she would be at home. better prob as they don't get huffy with her as much as me lol!

Weymouth eh? Just a hop skip n a jump for the Southern Contingent, very very do-able for our South-West Teabags too.

Strategies for ensuring P cannot join you must be our priority now.

grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Dior on Tue 18-Mar-08 11:55:33
TFM - the freezer is the best strategy for him not going on holiday with you all grin. Just tell the children he wanted a holiday in the ice, rather than the sun...

I am fine re G really. I do understand and accept that he might look good, but so does a large bar of Cadbury's and that isn't good for me either! I actually despise him now, but seeing him reminded me how attractive he is. <Skin deep, skin deep>
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 12:04:32
grin grin Dior! I'm supposed to be the funny one round here wink That's a brilliant idea! It's going to take me a while to empty the freezer now though seeing as I'm not cooking his meals and he is living off Vesta beef rissoto anf takeaways! grin

PC, that sounds great! It would be wonderful! Thinking of ideas as we 'speak', just in case I can't get the freezer emptied in time wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 12:06:27
PC, go to the states and enjoy the trip and all the benfits you are going to get from it. DD will be absolutely fine, you don't have to worry and you don't have to justify going smile Onwards and Upwards! wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Baffy on Tue 18-Mar-08 12:23:46
lol Dior!! grin

pc - states sounds fab. DD will be absolutely fine at your parents and like you say, it's a good opportunity for you to be 'pc' and not just mum for a few days and mix with adults. am very envy

and envy to you and your job too lilybubble!

grin

lilybubble I was looking at the photos again and you and dd really are absolutely gorgeous. you should go into mum and baby modelling or something!!! grin

TFM apologies for the massive e-mail... brace yourself!

and macdoodle, I hope you're ok. I really don't have half the pressure that you have right now and I snapped at ds last night as I had a pile of work to do and he just wanted to play and cuddle sad
you're doing so well. so don't be too hard on yourself.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Tue 18-Mar-08 12:34:39
lol, TFM you're gonna be email swamped coz I just wrote to you too!

Baffy, any more calls from your recovery guy? i'm off to put new tyres on my car later i think. dd's new car seat arrived too - very swish.

don't beat yourself up about snapping at ds. you have acres more patience than me and i am sure it happens much less frequently than me with dd too.

i'm getting a teensy bit excited at the prospect of the states. should establish if it's a go at a meeting later today. only prob is scheduling with GPs availability. if it can't be co-ordinated someone else will have to go but then I will get to go to Tenerife so win/win really.

as for GPs, honestly they're in their 70s so you'd think there'd be less galivantin around and more on tap availability for me grin

hope i'm as sprightly as them when i get to that age tho!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Baffy on Tue 18-Mar-08 12:41:16
Nope no more from recovery guy... it was nice while it lasted!! wink grin

I'm off men for the moment anyway - happy to look - but that's as far as it goes!!

It's been total bliss with H away. He's back now sad
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Paddlechick666 on Tue 18-Mar-08 12:46:55
nothing like a bit of flirting for an ego boost. being off men doesn't mean you can't window shop eh!

i think i will have to go back to Wagamama more often. First time in ages I've seen anyone I thought was really cute.

Telling statement about H being away and back again. Bluddy hope SG stays away from you.

I still think you should flog the famous band story - with names - to Screws of The World.

grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Baffy on Tue 18-Mar-08 13:03:53
pmsl! grin

I didn't get any chance to flirt though did I sad When he came into yours it was the one time in the whole weekend that ds decided to be a little monster! I think seeing me shouting at ds to stop drinking the water out of your vase of flowers probably put the final nail in the coffin!!! grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Tue 18-Mar-08 13:05:05
Hi guys

Help me stay strong now please

OW has upped her game and is stamping her foot again - now she has her promotion she is trying to get h out sad. He has sent on the email she sent him saying that he is 'overlooking' her at work (copied into boss too). H says boss is not happy but as he is a man not sure he is reading between the lines ifswim.

Should i just stay out and expect these stupid men to sort it out? or do as i feel at the moment and at least get it out of my system?

I am absolutly fuming at the moment and that is not good - i think this is why i have felt a bit nervous lately - i just dont think it is over and she still wants her revenge.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 13:15:07
HW, a smuch as I would love to stick my twopenneth in I would keep out of it. This is one mess he has to sort out himself.

I think it is perfectly understandable that you are fuming and need to rant. OW is now the woamn scorned and she is showing her pain at being rejected by hitting H in the only area she knows it will hurt. He has to show her is is strong and can rise above all this. He has to work with his boss on this one, she should be made to provide proof which can back up her allegations. At the moment they are just words. H needs to be ready to show that she is acting out of spite.

You my love need to stay calm and stop yourself from going in a wringing her scrawny neck! smile Rant on here xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Tue 18-Mar-08 13:21:59
I am trying to do that - but these men just dont get it - she has been stabbing her in the back since she got what she wanted (work wise anyway). They will know soon anyway but i just want to get it all in the open to show her for what she is. Of course i am doing it for me too but i dont want her to hurt him at work as it will hurt the dcs. She angry at him for personal reasons not proffessional and if she wants personal to come into it i have enough old emails to really show her up - yes it might make h look a bit silly but i really do feel that most people think he has done the right thing.

Calm calm calm - and breath - i just want her out of my life and this is doing my head in - lets just get it all in the open like i wish i had in the first place.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 13:28:08
I can totally understand where you are coming from, we just have to find a way to do this 'professionally' rather than as a tit for tat exercise. How would it be if H got all his evidence together i.e. the emails and whatever else he has and goes and has a word with his boss. On a personal and confidential level.

My guess is he is holding back from really letting rip because 1, he feel ahamned and embarrassed by his behaviour and 2, he feels a bit guilty for dumping her. Men are not like us women, we tell it straight, we tell it as it is, they duck and dive around thr truth hoping the whole sorry thing will just blow over. I can understand why you want to step and and take charge but, I don't think it's wise.

What the hell is her game anyway! What a cow! Why can she not just accept that it's over and leave H to get on with his job in peace. She really must be mad at him. Ruthless!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 13:32:08
Just a thought but, are the emails really incriminating? I was just wondering what her reaction might be if she received copies of them with the word 'COPIES' written in bold ink at the top of them. Would they be enough to shut her up without actually having to say anything. Its something that you could do, without telling anyone wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Tue 18-Mar-08 13:36:57
She is mad at him - he dosent need the evidence as such it is common knowlege how she feels - just that at the time i think she thought h would leave - she said all the right things and the bosses were reluctent to let either of the go - i now believe they should have sacked the pair of them.

Being men they just thought it would go away. And believed that she would be professional. H has been and i think he is still learning how devious woman can be. He is no longer ashamed or embarrassed. I dont think he has any feeling towards her - he knows he hurt her but she 'allowed' that too as she knew what she was getting into all along. In fact i think now he sees what she can be like he is appauled that he could have ever liked her - a case of being lead by his trousers!!!

The boss is angry at her too and will probably slap her wrists and she will say 'sorry i wont do it again' blah blah blah.... I just feel that i will make her feel so uncomfortable if i rant to her and at the moment that is waht i want more than anything. I want her out of my life forever so if there is a chance i can sort it why not?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Tue 18-Mar-08 13:44:03
The emails are the sexual kind - so would be uncomfortable for everyone - but at least she would find it hard to hold her head in her next power meeting. The company did not delete them as they have a legal requirement to keep them. She knows i have read them and i just feel so wicked at the moment. we all like to think we are not interested in what others get up to in their private lives yet we all love the juicy gossip grin. They wont hurt her as such professionally just be very embarasing. I am not bothered about the bosses seeing them - just want to cause an 'east-enders' moment and see if she can live with that. She was hoping i couldnt handle him working with her. I did say to the bosses i would not cause a fuss as it could look bad for them too but they will know that she has overstepped the mark anyway and so all bets are off now.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 14:08:56
grin remind me never to get on your wrong side!

Ok, so if i give you TFM permission to give it your best shot, to go in there guns blazing, whats your plan? What will you do?

Sock it to me! grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 14:11:25
By Eastenders moment, your'e not planning on drugging her then burying her alive are you shock we would have to have out next Teabag meetup at Wormwood Scrubs! grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Tue 18-Mar-08 14:20:44
Sorry dont watch eastenders really - just meant something all staff would want to 'watch' grin. But if there were drugs and murder all the better grin.

I know i am better than her in everyway. I am even considering her dcs in this - which is more than she ever did when she left them. I am better than her - hold the thought.

I do think the bosses are getting fed up with her but then she may be doing the same as baffys ow and sleeping with him anyway to keep her job.

I am feeling a bit calmer now and i am going to pick up the knife and prepare some supper for my brood smile. Those onions will be well and truely minced today wink.

Just feel that if i had taken control in the first place it could have all been sorted by now.

I am a nice person really TFM - but yes as you know we share star sign so if you cross me do watch out.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 14:30:16
I know you are a nice person! I never doubted it. You are also trying very hard to get your marriage back on track after this woman almost tore it apart, you are fiercely protective and desperate for her not to undo any of the hard work you have done. All totally understandable.

The only problem I can see with it all is that it is H who works with her and so it is H who has to sort it out. I think you have to trust that he will do that. I'm just wondering what the impact of you becoming invovled would be, both at work and at home. IYSWIM.

I reckon that you are best coming on here to rant but playing the supportive wife at home while genlty dropping poisonous subtle hints as to how he can keep in control of the situation at work.

Unless you fancy meeting up with her and discussing things 'woman to woman'. Did you ever contact her after the 'event'? Did you ever confront her at all? Would you feel up to doing that? Maybe she needs a reminder that H has a family!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 14:31:18
You must start watching Eastenders! between that and CSI you can come up with some great ideas for the perfect murder and how to get away with it grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Tanee58 on Tue 18-Mar-08 14:41:27
Speaking of Eastenders, DD was very disconcerted at being compared to Chelsea - 'but she's black!' she cried. I haven't watched it for ages, so we googled a picture & I had to persuade her that apart from the colour, she DOES look a bit like Chelsea grin!

HW, what a ghastly woman, but rest assured she's digging her own grave. Just sit tight, let her keep digging.

Baffy, I'm so sorry that none of us was a man - but I suspect that Dior really IS a hairy biker under her Liz Hurley cunning disguise grin. Actually, we're ALL really hairy bikers - we were wearing rubber masks on Sunday.... Having met you, I think your H is completely, utterly mad. Why is he hanging out with a psychotic lapdancer when he could have had you!?

Lilybubble, enjoy your press night tonight, you will look gorgeous whatever you wear. Do let us know if you get any freebies - DD would love Hairspray!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 14:45:33
Tanee, I just have to say I have seen the photo's and i think your dd is gorgeous! Similar to Chelsea yes but much better looking. She is a stunner! Just like her mum! smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Tue 18-Mar-08 14:57:41
TFM

as you know i have spent a long time looking at what i want and getting it for myself. I did meet her before i knew and did phone her at the time (she was very scared i would ruin her at work at the time). I do think this was all predicable as she has not really had closure. I also know that i need to leave it to him to sort out (and actually he is - and he is doing very well).

I am so glad i can rant on here as i have been so mad today i have paced up and down getting muself in a real state.

Thankyou for being here.

I know i am so much better than her in every way (h knows that too - and she just cant stand the fact that she messed up big time).
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 15:03:50
smile hey, you are welcome. Its nice to be able to return the favour wink you should have seen me at the weekend, trying to walk off panic attacks by pounding the pavement in the pouring rain, like a woman possessed! Mascara streaked face to boot!

I know all of the hard work you have put in, and are still putting in. You are to be commended and YES, you are without doubt a better woman than she is or than she is ever likely to be. She will get her comeuppance, i am sure of it. I am a firm believer in what goes round comes around! I think you are amazing! But you are allowed a little wobble or a violent thought every now and then, it's so nice to know you are human! grin

Did you get your hair done by the way? Did you go for a different cut? xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Tue 18-Mar-08 15:16:16
lovely haircut - but not much different - not brave enough until the sunny weather. Still it makes you feel better anyway.

I really am feeling calmer now so thankyou.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Baffy on Tue 18-Mar-08 15:38:34
Sorry I keep missing everything at the mo! HW you are doing so so well.

I did wonder myself if you needed to meet this woman face to face to get some closure.

I know for me, I would absolutely 100% not have been able to cope if I hadn't met h's SG! In fact within about 3 hours of me finding out she was even on the scene, I went straight to her work to see her face to face.

You most definitely are so much better than her. And by supporting H, and trusting him to deal with it in the best way he can, I think you are doing the best that you can.

Now that's not to say that I don't think a 'gentle' reminder from you would be a good thing. wink I know if it were me then one of those e-mails would be posted to her! Or I would be waiting outside work one evening to 'bump' into her!

But you see, I do have this little streak in me that means I just have to do something. For me that was because H was too bloody crap to do something himself, so it was me against the world!! But for you, you have H by your side, and he is trying his best to fix this. That's all good.

Rising above it really is the best way (most of the time). Even though it's bloody hard!

And hey - don't listen to me - look where my last episode of doing something got me....!! Although I have all the evidence I need against her, I could really have done without a pint thrown over my gorgeous new top!!!! wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Tue 18-Mar-08 15:50:54
Thanks baffy - i really do not need to face her - not because i am scared but i really dont want it end up being a slanging match. However i do think if i dont do something then i will forever regret it.

It is only because she is feeling smug and secure now (with her promotion under her belt) that she feels she can start to chip away at him. I do know that the boss is pretty pissed off with her (being a man i dont think this would happen and he is now kicking himself too).

I just want to be cruel really and let her know that even though the stupid men may not know all that she is up to that i do and i am not afraid to bring it all in the open. Is that a gentle reminder - i think she thinks i will not as it may 'hurt' h too - but actually i dont think it will as he has been as open and honest as he can.

I really dont think she has many allies at work as we have had a lot of 'bits' of info from people and it will really un-nerve her if she knew she was being 'spied' on as such. I havent done any of this - others have just offered the info. Silly bitch will have her comeupance soon anyway so why am i even bothered? Because i want to watch it all and i am being too impatient for my own good.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Tue 18-Mar-08 15:54:09
I think she is also trying to 'force' something at work and would rather he leave.

God i hate these games - but i am still drawn to them - so addictive.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Baffy on Tue 18-Mar-08 15:56:08
Sounds like H, the other staff, and most importantly the boss, are all fully aware of what she is doing.

Be patient!! grin

Sounds like she will get what she deserves soon enough.

And you can sit back in the smug knowledge that she caused every bit of it herself smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:01:18
HW, Maybe she isn't feeling smug and secure, thats why she feels the need to cause H all this trouble. Lets face it, if she were really happy and content then she would be getting on with her life, she wouldn't be sticking the knife in and trying to cause problems for H.

If we look at this from a different perspective then your H must be doing a good job in letting her know he is no longer interested and that they are well and truly history.

AS for the other stuff, I don't think it's cruel at all to want to let her know you have got her number, you know what her game is. As for being impatient, I don't think you can ever be described as impatient. I think you have been bloody marvellous!! Stop trying to be nice all the time, you can be as horrible as you want on here, I am sure Richard Templar doesn't post on MN grin wink

Glad you like the hair, hope it has given you a lift just when you need it xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ginnedup on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:26:40
HW - I'm very much like you and Baffy in that I have to do something and can't wait around for something to happen if I can make it happen sooner.
BUT, most times I have done that I've regretted it after and wished I'd played the long game and bided my time.
I think she's causing trouble because she's lost and she knows it. H chose you over her and no amount of promotions will ever change that. She's a bitter twisted old cow, whereas you are a lovely attractive woman whose husband made the right choice in the end.
Guess where my P is today? Do I care?
Not likely grin. He can drink himself into the gutter on his own!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:30:48
Can you imagine if we all went on holidays together with the P's. There would be 2 in the pub, one in the bookies, one in a lap danicng club and one in hiding somewhere grin Meanwhile we would be left on the beach with the kids!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By sugarpear on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:31:34
Hi all.

Tanee dd is v gorgeous and v polite and well mannered i hope mine are like that at 16.

Lilyloo i didnt notice that dd brought a 2nd pair of shoes along that is so precious a proper girly girl. A gorgeous one at that too and the spitting image of her mum.

Hw i really feel for you its gut renching when they just wont leave off. It does sound like she is acting out cos h has completely blown her off which is a great thing. So terribly hard on you tho. She will trip up eventually.

Tfm if you dont mind id like to email you and tell a few things about my life? Im hoping it will explain why i sometimes might come across as aggressive and maybe spiteful. I dont mean to to anyone. But i may just write it all down and never send it. Then depending on your opinion/advice i will share my whole story with all my teabags.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Tanee58 on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:33:49
TFM thank you for your kind compliments. You have made a 50 year old hag very happy smile!

DD and I will have to start watching her 'double' in Eastenders...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:37:26
Thanks you lot - you are right - who would want promotion over H wink.

In some ways i am glad she is 'hurting' and is at last showing it.

Yes TFM i want to break the rules every now and then.

At least this stressing is helping me not to eat everything in sight as i did yesterday grin.

We have a lovely easter to look forward to and then we are off for a break as a family, so i will continue ranting for a bit longer then put her where she belongs - out of my mind.

Thanks for the lovely words of support.

GU you sound so possitive - it really was great to meet you fwiw you certainly seemed like a fantastic person in control of their life and even though i know you do love dp on some level you dont need him.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Tanee58 on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:37:31
Sugar, thank you - aren't I a good parent grin. I do sometimes ask DD when she's going to start being a proper teenager and banging doors and grumping around the house and screaming that nobody understands her. Things were tough when she was 10 and her father left, she really hated DP and me - I could have done with some MN advice then but I didn't know you existed - but we seem to have come through so well and I find her a delight! smile
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Tanee58 on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:38:15
TFM - that would be some holiday grin!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:39:17
Sugar, please, please do share your experience. It's only since i have started 'talking' about mine that I realise it isn't normal. I have always felt like I was living some kind of false life, it's hard to explain really but, like I was putting on an act because how I was on the outside wasn't how I felt on the inside. I would love to read your email. You would be doing me a favour. xx

Tanee, you are welcome, I meant every word. In fact, i think that photo of you and dd should be your profile picture on FB, we can hardly see you on the other one. Its a shame to hide such a beautiful face smile xx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Tanee58 on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:39:27
Lillybubble's dd is a model in the making - and a girl can never have too many shoes!! smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:40:28
oh sugarpear are you trying to upstage me with the eastenders story lines winkgrin. I am intreged (?sp) now.

You seemed like a woman with a lot on your plate with your brood - not spiteful to me.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Tanee58 on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:40:32
Ah, but TFM, if I put that picture on my profile, you'll be able to see that I'm really wearing a rubber mask to hide my hairy biker face!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:42:08
Agree Tannee - i love shoes and i have passed it onto my dd too.

Nobody commented on my new shoes on sunday sad.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:43:17
Tanee, thats the kind of holiday I have had for years. Me on the beach with the kids and P in the bookies hmm

It would be great to have some Teabag company though grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HappyWoman on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:45:37
Where would my h be? Not sure i want you to answer that one grin. Actually he is great with kids so would love to stay with them. And we have finally converted him to beaches smile.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:46:51
I will go back and have a look at lilybubbles dd, check out the competition grin

Tanee, there is no way you are a hairy trucker. Stop fibbing! wink

God! all these beautiful women with Tossers at home/pub/bookies/lap dance bar/in hiding! Do you think there are actually any 'normal' men out there? Do they actually exsist?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:46:52
I will go back and have a look at lilybubbles dd, check out the competition grin

Tanee, there is no way you are a hairy trucker. Stop fibbing! wink

God! all these beautiful women with Tossers at home/pub/bookies/lap dance bar/in hiding! Do you think there are actually any 'normal' men out there? Do they actually exsist?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:47:56
Mmmm, where would we put HW H. Ahh yes, I know, he can stay on the beach with the kids while we hit the wine bar! Job sorted grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Baffy on Tue 18-Mar-08 16:53:41
Sugar you are way too hard on yourself. you don't come across like that at all. Ever!

I really admire you and I think you have a wonderful personality and are so full of life and energy and happiness. You dealt with what your H put you through with such courage and strength. Seriously, you're way too hard on yourself. <<wags finger TFM style!>> smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ginnedup on Tue 18-Mar-08 17:03:38
TFM - All the normal men I know have already been snapped up by my friends! I missed the boat somehow!!!
Sugar - I have never thought of you as mean or spiteful, and having met you on Sunday I would have said you were the complete opposite!
HW - you are right, I do love him, but I am finding lately that I have a lot more in my life than just him. I'm putting other things first now and realising how lucky I am to have great friends (you lot included!) and family and obviously my beautiful dc. I have started wondering if gradually the love will fizzle out and one day I just won't want him anymore.
(Great shoes by the way - I noticed smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TimeForMe on Tue 18-Mar-08 17:13:12
Aah but GU, if you met the P I live you would think he is 'normal'. He would be pleasant and sweet, smiling etc. He has a different face for the public than the one he has for me. A different voice too. So, how do you tell if a man is 'normal' before you get in too deep?

By the way Sugar, you have never come across as spiteful etc to me either. I think you are wonderful and have a great sense of humour. You have shown me nothing but kindness smile xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By sugarpear on Tue 18-Mar-08 17:20:04
Tfm you may regret that offer will be the longest email in history!

I think maybe i over analize things and i worry i make such a bad impression.

To be honest having read tfm email and meeting you wonderful women who have coped with so much pain and coped so much more dignified than me it stirred up lots of memories and feelings i buried. I saw a counsellor just once in my life and that was it cos exh didnt agree with it.

Im not always the best at explaining myself or my opinions so i think i need to do a big spill it all out. Bless tfm she will regret it! You may have to read it in installments over a week or 10! grin