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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Thu 15-May-08 10:01:34
hi now we hav dd and we are about to go down to one wage, we really need to start economising, we have never been careful with money, but we need to start.

do you have any tips to help at all wise MNetters?

any particuar shops or anything you recomend for either food, household stuff

and anywhere good for baby toys and clothes?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By SlartyBartFast on Thu 15-May-08 10:08:26
pelnty of people swear by asda, for everything.
other than that.. um.. go veggie.. other wiser people will inform us both i am sure grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By choosyfloosy on Thu 15-May-08 10:13:59
Honest truth - don't start thinking in terms of shopping in order to save money - think in terms of how much you can avoid going shopping.

Ask for clothes and toys for children's birthdays; put the word around that you are ALWAYS in the market for things to be handed down (do this everywhere, even with people you don't know that well! sounds embarrassing but many people really love to get rid of stuff to someone they know will enjoy it). Enjoy jumble sales, charity shops and ebay but limit, limit limit how much you spend there - £10 at a charity shop is still £10.

Plan ahead by saying to family this summer that you are no longer buying presents for over 21s (or whatever). I know for some families this would be a bigger deal than for ours so obviously that's just advice.

I've said this before, sorry... If you don't have them, it perhaps is worth getting decent waterproof clothing, good tupperware and drinks flasks for everyone. This means you can eat outside at any time. Always take your own snacks and drinks with you wherever you go - then you are not dependent on a coffee shop for a 'snack' that leaves you with no change from £15.

Plan your meals, write a shopping list. that's absolutely essential.

Good luck!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By choosyfloosy on Thu 15-May-08 10:15:40
Get a decent map of the local area and plan interesting free places to go. A local woodland will do a lot more for their cognitive development than soft play. And with those waterproof clothes you can go at any time fo year.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cupsoftea on Thu 15-May-08 10:19:22
h&m, charity shops & kids clothes from friends.

Meals - little processed or prepared food, bf and have water for older kids rather than packaged juices.

how old is your dd? babys need very little really. Save your cash for buying shoes which are expensive.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By SlartyBartFast on Thu 15-May-08 10:28:57
jumble sales, particularly near the end when they are selling really cheap.
car boot sales.

you don't need as much as you think.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Thu 15-May-08 11:04:09
yes i think your right, i should be strting out thinking about shopping i should be thinking about how to avoid shopping.

ive never bben to a boot sale or an nct sale before so ill keep an eye out for those and start to have a look in the cheaper places when i need stuff.
i have quite a few thing s dd doesnt need anymore that i can flog too

great point about planning free days out

need to cut down on the amount i spend on presents i have 6 nieces and newphews and normally spend about 30 on each at bdays and xmas so thats £180 a year on those alone
i might chop this down to £10 each does that sound reasonable ?

dd is 11 months

a big part of my problem is i never think before spending, i book holidays and buy sfutt without thinking so i need to make some kind of consious effort not to do that
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By hopefully on Thu 15-May-08 11:08:17
I used to find I spent without thinking (books, magazines and food rather than clothes, as they felt less like 'real' shopping). I found the only way to get over it was to go completely cold turkey for a couple of weeks. i literally bought the weekly food shop and then kept a credit card buried in my bag for emergencies (not in my wallet, as it was too easy to access!). After 2 weeks I allowed myself access to my wallet again, and I was so much more aware of when i was spending. it worked like magic.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By OverMyDeadBody on Thu 15-May-08 11:11:48
Only ever buy things you absolutely need, rather than want, don't impulse buy anything, look around for the cheapest offer, mend or fix things rather than throwing them out and buying new things..

£10 or presents is fine, you can also buy presents ahead of time so you're not rushed at the last minute, I get DS's birthday presents of ebay, you can get really good bargains on there if you look.

There's also nothing wrong with making presents or offering presents that are home-made vouchers for things. DS made a voucher for his friend as a present that was to come over for an arts-n-crafts afternoon and make clay models. His friend absolutely loved it!grin

Make birthday cards too, you can save yourself a small fortune, cards are expensive and it soon builds up!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By OverMyDeadBody on Thu 15-May-08 11:13:00
I agree with hopefully too.

Go out sometimes and don't take your wallet. Then you have no option.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By blinkingthreetimes on Thu 15-May-08 11:15:12
No magazines

don't look on ebay

menu plan and shop online to stop you picking up extras

Take snacks and drinks with you.

Do cheap things like a free museum or feeding the ducks.

If you don't already access the library it's great for dvd's and you can order what books you want to read online and they will order them in for you.

Find out where your nearest toy library is too these can be good for new toys then when your lo gets bored of it take it back and get another.

Make your own cleaning products and use or make reusable baby wipes.

Grow veg (it's easy}

Only take what you think you will need to spend that day .

Keep a diary of what you buy in a week You will be shocked
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By SirDigbyChickenCaesar on Thu 15-May-08 11:18:08
definitely meal plan and make lists. it really helps. DH and i used to spend £50 on grocereis easily and not have any meals.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Thu 15-May-08 11:21:10
wow thats an excellent idea
"There's also nothing wrong with making presents or offering presents that are home-made vouchers for things. DS made a voucher for his friend as a present that was to come over for an arts-n-crafts afternoon and make clay models. His friend absolutely loved it!"
super impressived by your inventiveness!

perhaps my ecomony drive can even be fun!

yes i need to go cold turkey, even in the last few months ive spent an outrageous amount, so cold turkey or electric shock treatment would help me !
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Thu 15-May-08 11:25:52
yes toy libary, im definatley going to do that, one of my friends goes every friday, and has often asked me to go too, ill take her up on it.

ive never heard of resuleable baby wipes, where do you get those? thay sound great i spend a bomb on wipes.

is growing veg really easy? whazt is the easiest?

yes and meal plan, i spend far far too much on food

oh yes and a spending diary, that would seriously help me as thats my biggest problem spending without thinking
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By blinkingthreetimes on Thu 15-May-08 11:28:01
There are some good recipes on here (esp for rocky road) it's easy to make and looks great wrapped up in cellophane and a bit of ribbon.

I have also stopped sending real card and sending e cards just tell people you are saving the planet blushgrin

Good presents for older relatives are a photo of your lo with a nice frame (think £land or wilkinsons they are nice ).

Sell on ebay too or avoid fees and use big wardrobe .com

Use freecycle too .

If you have a dryer get some dryer balls they cut down a lot of drying time.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By blinkingthreetimes on Thu 15-May-08 11:31:14
You can get wipes on ebay or get a tupperwear box and bulk buy some flannels make a mixture of cammomile tea ,olive oil and a bit of baby bath and use one side to wipe other to dry IYSWIM.

Potatoes and tomatoes are easy ,herbs are good too there should be tips on the gardening thread here.

HTH
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By TillyScoutsmum on Thu 15-May-08 11:32:39
Meal planning was a really big one for us...

Lidl has some good stuff (wipes, nappies etc)

Primark, Matalan and Asda all good for clothes

Get a picnic rug and go for picnics rather than pub lunches (whilst the weather is good)

Shop around for utilities - make sure you're getting the best deals on gas, electric, phone etc

My dd is similar age to yours and has loads of toys but barely touches them... A few plastic bowls and wooden spoons are far more entertaining. Balloons provide hours of fun as well. Join the library for books (also good to go and spend an hour or so on a rainy day in the children's section)

I used to spend loads on toiletries and beauty products (Clarins etc.) - some supermarket stuff is great. Stock up on 2 for 1's on shampoo, toothpaste, deodorants, loo rolls etc)

If you're not up to making your own cards, then buy a pack of generic cards (but don't put them somewhere "safe" and forget where they are and buy new ones - not that I did that of course blush). Same with rolls of giftwrap. Books are great pressies for children and Red House is great reasonable on line website

Photos of dd are always popular as adult pressies (for gp's etc.) - frames are cheap from Matalan, Primark etc. and I use snapfish for prints.

Don;t buy magazines or newspapers - go online and read them if you want
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Thu 15-May-08 11:33:13
what supermarket do you shop in? i shop from ocado, i find i spend more when i go to tescos.

perhaps i shpould try morrisons or somewhere else? i prefer doing it on line though.
much easier

i was planing on buying loads of new summer clothes but when dd goes for her nap, im going to go through my warbrobe and see what i have got, its easy to forget stuff
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cupsoftea on Thu 15-May-08 11:35:09
don't go shopping and you will spot your essentials you really need and will manage fine without other things.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By blinkingthreetimes on Thu 15-May-08 11:35:56
sorry am going on now but

get a prepay credit card (IDT PRIMe OR VIRGIN) that way you load it with what you want to spend you don't pay interest (there is a small fee about 80p) and betetr still you don't have to put your real credit card details online.

Join moneysaving expert

I second primark and asda.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By blinkingthreetimes on Thu 15-May-08 11:35:57
sorry am going on now but

get a prepay credit card (IDT PRIMe OR VIRGIN) that way you load it with what you want to spend you don't pay interest (there is a small fee about 80p) and betetr still you don't have to put your real credit card details online.

Join moneysaving expert

I second primark and asda.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RubberDuck on Thu 15-May-08 11:36:53
Also, have some savings for sale times - know how many family birthdays you have to buy for and buy presents in the sales well in advance ready for them. I don't always manage it (after all, best sales are straight after Christmas) but I also try and pick up BOGOFFs and 3 for 2s on things that would make good party presents (once your dd is over 3, you'd be amazed at how many parties she gets invited to!)

Don't make your budget too tight if you can - allow for a good percentage more than you think you need and drop other stuff that you definitely don't need so you can do this - that way when you consistently come in under your budget each month it's a mental boost, you're not setting yourself up for failure and you can dump the "spare" into a savings account - you'll be amazed at how quickly odd bits of money dumped in here and there add up.

If you have a credit card, try sealing it up in an envelope up somewhere inaccessible (in the loft, back of a wardrobe) so not tempted to overspend on things you don't need but still have it around in case of an emergency (like an appliance suddenly die). The hardest habit I found for economising was not using credit on a regular basis (and tbh, I'm still learning this - find it very hard).
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RubberDuck on Thu 15-May-08 11:38:02
Online shopping for food works best for me, because if you have a strict budget for food you can get to the end, realise you're over then go back through and work out what you can switch to own brands, what is a luxury you can take out of the "basket" etc.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Sidge on Thu 15-May-08 11:38:50
Buy what you need, not what you want. Children don't need many clothes really, especially in the summer when you can wash and dry them quickly and get them back on again.

Go to online sites like The Book People and buy books as presents. You can buy the bundles eg 4 books for a few quid then break the packs and give them individually as presents.

Pasta is cheap(ish) and you can make a zillion different meals with pasta. Buy veg from a market, it's cheaper than the supermarket. Eat less meat. Buy value products for basics eg kitchen roll, orange juice, tinned chopped tomatoes etc as they are no different to the more expensive brands. Save your money for quality meat, fresh goods and the odd treat.

Stop buying coffee, papers, magazines, etc when you're out. Take a flask with you and read papers and mags in the library. Libraries also offer loads of activities for children (even little ones) and they are free.

Write down every penny you spend for 1-2 weeks, then you can see where wasted money is going.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By TillyScoutsmum on Thu 15-May-08 11:42:58
Get some cheap flannels from Asda or similar and use them sometimes instead of wipes. We used to get through loads but I have cleans flannel in the kitchen and use that for post food clean ups. Same with nappy changes (use one or two wipes and then the flannel). Muslins can be used as well (I had hundreds of the things smile)

Local greengrocer and butcher is good instead of supermarket. Lidl is good for store cupboard stuff (herbs, spices, olive oil, balsamic etc). Your main shop should then only be pretty small - I find Asda cheapest - but not sure they deliver ?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Thu 15-May-08 11:47:12
wow im so impressed! you lot are GREAT!
so invententive and wonderful!

i never thought or realisd theres so much i can do !

yes im good at making cards and i enjoy it too.

what is freecycle ?
ill get some dryer balls, wheres the cheapest place to get them?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By naturelover on Thu 15-May-08 11:47:15
For baby wipes I bought a pack of j-cloths, cut them in two, and just use them with plain water. Wash them with the nappies/muslins. Soak in a bucket with a few drops of tea tree oil until you have enough for a wash. When I'm out and about I confess I use packet wipes for convenience. But a pack of bought wipes lasts ages because most nappy changes happen at home.
Using washable nappies is a money saver of course but obviously long-term only (and gets cheaper with subsequent babies).
I'm following this thread with interest and I need to cut down too.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By YerMaw on Thu 15-May-08 11:47:31
Have a look at the money saving expert website - it has a lot of good advice about stuff like this.

Totally agree with Digby about meal planning. If we don't do it our grocery bill doubles and yet we end up with nothing for dinner two days later.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cupsoftea on Thu 15-May-08 11:48:58
I don't meal plan as such but go round the supermarket & see what's on offer or a good price & then use it all up.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Thu 15-May-08 11:50:07
you wonderful mums have actually made
me feel quite positive about all this. smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Thu 15-May-08 11:52:34
how much do you all spend a week on food and where do you shop?

food shopping, we spend about £100 a week, just me dh and an 1 month old, i make her meals

i think this seems too much
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Thu 15-May-08 11:56:40
nature lover, i can definately do that re the wipes smile
what actually are j clothes, we have those blue multi purpose wipes, is that the same thing?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By madmuggle on Thu 15-May-08 11:57:07
Put your credit card in a small tub of water then freeze it
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By OverMyDeadBody on Thu 15-May-08 11:58:14
There's no reason not to feel positive about it smile I love the challenge of seeing how much of my money I canactually kepp each week. View it as a good thing.

I've just spent this morning changing all of DS's trousers from last year that he's outgrown into long shorts ready for the summer. Some are more like short shorts though because they were worn through at the knee, but I'm quite proud of my mornings' work!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By blinkingthreetimes on Thu 15-May-08 11:58:45
I have 5 dc and dp I usually spend about £110.00 a week at asda online ,but thats for everything lunches ,toiltrees ,dogfood .Etc etc.

It does seem a lot what you are spending but I think you tend to get into bad habits just try and do a menu planner for one week you will be amazed at what you save, and I find it a lot less stressful knowing what I am going to be cooking rather than pot luck .

Alos google freestuff uk and you can sign up for loads of samples and stuff I have had just this month some nivea visage ,a full size air freshner and fabric conditioner and some original source shower gel.

Haircuts use a mobile hairdresser or look for a model night and get a free or very cheap haircut.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By OverMyDeadBody on Thu 15-May-08 11:58:48
yep the blue cloths are j-cloths. They can be machine washed too.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ChicaLovesHerLocalGreengrocer on Thu 15-May-08 12:00:00
For us, a big part of the weekly shop was coke, wine, beer, cider etc.

I went round the supermarkets near us, and bought a can each of all the own brand beers and colas, and had a tasting. We found one we liked, and now I bulk buy that (saves masses).

For wine, the BOGOF offers can be good.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By blinkingthreetimes on Thu 15-May-08 12:01:25
Freecycle is a worldwide org you just need to google freecycle and your area .You offer things for free you don't want anymore and you can ask for stuff or ask people for the stuff they offer .

I got my dryer balls from the 99p store blush if you can't find any that cheap cat me and I will send you some ,I have looked online but they are all around 8.00
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ChicaLovesHerLocalGreengrocer on Thu 15-May-08 12:01:37
(makes us sound like lushes) blush
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By blinkingthreetimes on Thu 15-May-08 12:03:37
In the weather walk as much as you can too ,cheap and good for you .
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By blinkingthreetimes on Thu 15-May-08 12:04:01
*THIS
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ChicaLovesHerLocalGreengrocer on Thu 15-May-08 12:04:21
What about having a couple of storecupboard days? You'd be amazed what meals you can conjure up out of the contents of your storecupboard. Makes sure that you use up all those little things that can hang around, and also puts off going to the shop for a few more days.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Deux on Thu 15-May-08 12:06:47
I limit my cash every week - I take it out at the start and it's got to last me. Can be a bit nerve-wracking!

Aldi does some great stuff especially baked goods, fruit and veg, dried pasta. So much cheaper than Tesco.

Freeze your credit card in a tub of water. Freeze some pound coins for emergencies!

If you're making anything with minced beef or lamb you can make it go further by adding red lentils and extra water. I always do this now and have effectively doubled the quantity of the meal so I freeze one portion.

Clear out your freezer - you may be amazed how many (hotch-potch) meals you can conjure up. I did this recently and managed to feed us for 5 nights!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Jojay on Thu 15-May-08 12:10:04
If you're on a really tight budget, stop using credit / debit cards completely, and withdraw the amount you have to spend in cash weekly.

When it's gone, it's gone and you'll just have to manage. If there's any left over, stick it in a jar and use it for treats or put it in a savings account.

Worked for me when I was a poor student!!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By slug on Thu 15-May-08 12:16:31
Now is the perfect time to get a veg garden growing. If you don't have a garden, it's amazing what can be grown in a few pots. Ask around any garden proud friends or neightbours, you are bound to find one with a few extra seedlings they can give you (I've just scored 5 tomato plants from a neighbour yesterday) If nothing else, it's educational and fun for the little ones.

Without wanting to sound patronising, learning how to really cook well can be a major money saver. Try and work out a few recipies for leftovers and emergency 'I have nothing in the cupboard' meals. Fritters (good for leftovers, especially curry) scones (flour, butter, milk) and soup (anything in the bottom of the fridge) are some of my staples.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Sidge on Thu 15-May-08 12:20:38
£100 a week for groceries for 2 adults and a baby is a fair bit, I reckon you could economise if you need to. There are 5 of us (DH with an enormous appetite, me and 3 DC) and we spend about £80 a week on average including nappies, toiletries etc. I do a main shop at Tesco and get it delivered (I spend less that way, no impulse buys) and also get bits at Lidl and Iceland (eg frozen veg).

Buy the huge bags of rice and pasta, they work out better value. Buy less booze.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By YerMaw on Thu 15-May-08 12:28:40
You could probably halve what you spend on groceries if you have time to cook and a decent sized freezer, but it'd be easier to cut back gradually I think. Maybe try setting yourself targets eg. to bring it down to 75 for a few weeks and see how you find it. Do you throw much food out?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Thu 15-May-08 12:43:52
yes im a fairly good cook, although i need to learn how to do it in a cheapr way.

last week i mad fish pie and i used prawns[3.50] line caught sustainable cod [5.50]
salmon fillets [4.40]

when really i should be using cheaper bits

its was bloody tastey though!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Thu 15-May-08 12:48:32
the red lentals and water is a great idea,

i dont throw much out, thats one thing im fairly good at, not much gets wasted i even make stock with the bones etc.
which i thought id only do for dds 1st year, but im going to keep doing that
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Thu 15-May-08 12:51:51
right dds gone for her nap, im off to sort though my wardrobe, teh ill be back, perhaps i can tell you what ive got knocking aboiut in the cupboards for some.
storecupboard days

back soon.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By blinkingthreetimes on Thu 15-May-08 12:52:30
Try mysupermarket.com too I have only just discovered it and it does save you money
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By LaDiDaDi on Thu 15-May-08 13:11:15
I'm trying to economise on food as I was spending about the same as you with a very similar family to feed.

I now only buy toiletries and cleaning products when they are on 3 for 2 or BOGOF.

I now never buy fresh fruit and veg on BOGOF as I found that we would buy too much of one item and it would get wasted so this wasn't a money saver at all.

I try to get my online delivery every 8 days rather than every week, this helps we to use my storecupboard/freezer stuff up. I always use a free delivery code.

I have an ASDA delivery coming today and I have spent £65. I will probably need to buy some more milk and I know that I forget to buy houmos and ham but this has still cut my total weekly spend from £100 to £70. I'm really pleased with this as this is including buying 3 bottles of wine this week (3 for £10, would have been over £19), two fridge packs of coke zero (to take into work as I'm a cola addict at work but cans there are 50p compared with 30p each if I buy on a multisave at ASDA. I also take lunch into work everyday and dp does this sometimes too. If you are not working and your dp is I would definitely get him to take a packed lunch.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By choosyfloosy on Thu 15-May-08 14:25:26
yep, packed lunches are vital - and actually it's a lot less painful if you make a packed lunch that you really like. The easiest is to make a bit more for dinner and chuck the rest into a tupperware thing in the fridge for the following day - grab in the morning with a slice of bread and a couple of pieces of fruit and wahey! Most stews, curries, sauces etc are actually much better the day after, so your lunch is fantastic!

Aim for 3 meals per joint of meat - roast, sandwiches, pasta thing, for example.

MAKE STOCK. Any bones? chuck in large pan with some bits of carrot peel, fill pan with water, simmer for 2 hours, chuck in tupperware, freeze.

Consider getting an economical cookery book. My best one is my grandmother's 1950s Good Housekeeping - considerably cheaper than chips. Anything by Marguerite Patten is usually quite a good approach too.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By madmuggle on Thu 15-May-08 16:36:24
The Good Housekeeping book, a blast from my childhood. I worked my way through much of the cakes section throughout my childhood weekends
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By foxythesnowfox on Thu 15-May-08 16:39:18
mysupermarket.com gives you the cheapest supermarket for your trolley

if you like magazines there are plenty of offers 6 for £6 and the like, you just have to remember to cancel them after the promo period.

aign up to moneysavingexpert.com
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By foxythesnowfox on Thu 15-May-08 16:42:34
check out houseswap site geenee.com if you want a cheap holiday.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Sibh on Thu 15-May-08 18:13:30
Hi,
So many good tips here--a good approach too is to try to plan ahead for the things that inevitably go wrong. We put a bit by each month for 'house, wear and tear', 'car, wear and tear', christmas and birthdays and any bills that come irregularly we try to even out over the year by putting sums by. All this eases the pain when you need two new tyres the week before Christmas or all your appliance decide to commit mass suicide in the space of a fortnight (ok, so I am a bit bitter about them going kaput).
i agree that moneysavingexpert is a great website. When we started our big cutback I was worried about the big buys that come along every now and again like eye glasses, but finding out about things like glassesdirect from fellow savers has been a massive help. Good luck with the economising. It becomes a painless habit after a while,
Hope this helps,
Sibh
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Martianbishop on Thu 15-May-08 18:22:37
If you owe money, pay it off as fast as you can, because it will cost you more in interest than you'll get in interest from a savings account.....have enough saved for emergencies, and anything that you must have, but any other 'spare cash' pay off your debts

meal plan and get own brands

Freeze your cetdit cards in a big block of ice. That way you can use them if you have to, but you can't use them for impulse shopping
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By novicemama on Thu 15-May-08 18:54:48
freecycle! honestly, we have got SO much completely free and good quality stuff from freecycle - it is amazing.

www.freecycle.org/
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By webchick on Thu 15-May-08 21:15:33
if you order on-line google the stores name (tesco etc) and discount code, I always get approx £5 off each order. Buy store breakfast cereals and other storecupboard items.

Instead of branded cleaning fluids, just get some diluted washing up liquid into a spray bottle for cleaning work surfaces.
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if you order on-line google the stores name (tesco etc) and discount code, I always get approx £5 off each order. Buy store breakfast cereals and other storecupboard items.

Instead of branded cleaning fluids, just get some diluted washing up liquid into a spray bottle for cleaning work surfaces.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By webchick on Thu 15-May-08 21:16:13
if you order on-line google the stores name (tesco etc) and discount code, I always get approx £5 off each order. Buy store breakfast cereals and other storecupboard items.

Instead of branded cleaning fluids, just get some diluted washing up liquid into a spray bottle for cleaning work surfaces.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By webchick on Thu 15-May-08 21:17:09
if you order on-line google the stores name (tesco etc) and discount code, I always get approx £5 off each order. Buy store breakfast cereals and other storecupboard items.

Instead of branded cleaning fluids, just get some diluted washing up liquid into a spray bottle for cleaning work surfaces.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By vonsudenfed on Thu 15-May-08 21:31:14
If you like food - and I'm guessing you do from the fish pie description - sign up for a veg box. Our family is the same shape as yours - dd is 18 months - and £12.75 gets us our entire week's vegetables and organic too. We perhaps get a bit more salad or something, but that does us - and DH works from home, so I do proper lunches - soup, salads and so on.
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i was going to say go through your freezer, but too late grin

how about farm shops/greengrocers.

eggs from farms, cheaper
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By juliet111 on Thu 15-May-08 22:27:18
yes go to freecycle - you can loads of things for free - as well as getting rid of things you don't want
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Fri 16-May-08 10:18:09
ththis is a great thread full of fantasic ideas, ive never thought of going to a farm shop for eggs,

i wouldnt mind doing the whole growing vg and having a fwchickens thing, ive got quite a large garden, although im not sure ill could kill the chickens and do you ned permission to keep chickens etc?

well i spent yesteerday pm sorting though my wardrobe and i found a few things id forgotten about, its much more organised too

i think ill try to sort the kitchen cupboards today.

thank you so much for every single tip, they are all inovative, inventive and fecking fantasic !!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Fri 16-May-08 10:20:14
also the freecycle thing people ar giving away allsorts such as xbox 360, i suppos it would be slightly cheeky to take these things then sell them on ebay?

but then again bttr than filling up the landfill sites.
so prhaps ill be going my bit of the planet [and my pocket lol]
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Umlellala on Fri 16-May-08 10:32:18
Set your online shopping to come in a few days then you have time to amend it when you remember all the things you (inevitably) forgot to add.

Half Fairy Non Bio washing powder (am conditioned to like the smell blush)/half soda crystals.

www.moneysavingexpert.com is BRILLIANT.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By foxythesnowfox on Fri 16-May-08 13:14:10
petrolprices.com for cheapest, nearest prices
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Fri 16-May-08 16:08:55
umellala, i wondered what soda crystals where for!
great site foxy thanks smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By rebelmum1 on Fri 16-May-08 16:22:10
My tips are to go to moneysavingexpert.com make sure you have the best deals from all your suppliers, banks, mortgage etc.

Do an annual Budget
weekly shopping list and do easy food like sardines on toast, how you cook can make a huge difference to your budget. shepherds pie, the odd vegetarian meal.

Shop at Netto or the like you get the same products sometimes for half the price, it's a fools game paying more than you need to.

If you have a garden grow your own veg.

Get kids stuff clothes etc from ebay, sell on anything they grow out of and anything you don't need to claw back as much as you can.

Get veg from side of the rd stalls and farmers markets if you access to rural areas.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By rebelmum1 on Fri 16-May-08 16:25:23
oh and finally don't throw anything away use left over meat in soups, I always use bones and carcass to make stocks and then the cat or dog get anything else. If you make a soup freeze what's left over. make 2 shepheds pies at once and freeze the other one.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By rebelmum1 on Fri 16-May-08 16:27:15
Get things that you need like cooking eqpt from car boots and make some cash on the side by buying things at the carboot and selling on ebay.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By rebelmum1 on Fri 16-May-08 16:32:25
sorry last one use the old methods, white vinegar I use for cleaning worktops , disinfects, and windows any pongs the pets make, bicarb is good for cleaning two and you can save a fortune with soap nuts and things instead of washing powder. Get the cheapest powder if you do and add an essential oil, it's also good for cleaning floors - infact better than any floor cleaner that I've come accross.

Bleach is your friend and it's only a few p
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By foxythesnowfox on Fri 16-May-08 16:59:27
Lidl.

I love Lidl. 50 nappies for a fiver. Yummy food too. Try their Greek stuffed peppers with cheese in the antipasti section. Sausages £1.29 today (95% meat) and their stewing steak is on offer at £1.49 for 400g. Am very impressed, and I'm a fuss-arse about stuff like that grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Deux on Fri 16-May-08 16:59:46
Do you have a dishwasher? If so, use only half a tablet - I do this and have noticed no difference to the cleanliness of everything. Plus I buy the bog standard Finish ones and just make sure the machine is topped up with salt. I keep meaning to try without a tablet at all to see what happens.

Also, if you are eligible to join Costco you can save loads but you do need the space to store the stuff. Plus, you need to know before you go how much stuff costs in the shops to get an accurate comparison. We bulk buy tinned stuff, coffee, washing powder and dishwasher tabs and other similar non-food items. Though I usually end up blowing it all by buying something like 2 pairs of Birkenstocks at the same time. smile.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Fri 16-May-08 17:35:14
thanks for all the tips, ive been sorting the kitchen cupboards inbetween mnetting of course!

we do have a dwasher and we normally use the powder, i ususally use quite a generous amount too, so i can cut down on that, i thought the powder was cheaper the tabs?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Fri 16-May-08 17:36:12
tbh ive never tried nettos lidl iceland, i always used to use ocado and local butchers but that mince and sausages sound great
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Scootergrrrl on Fri 16-May-08 18:24:50
Lidl do really nice fresh Parmesan too. There are lots of threads on here about what's good from there.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ElizabethBeresfordSW19 on Fri 16-May-08 18:33:14
Agree with choosyfloosy and overmydeadbody. both good posts. my way of life too really.

i buy nappies in lidl, but nothing else. everything else has ginger in it or is covered in marzipan. Looks interesting tastes hmm

i buy boxes of cards in book station or discount book shops and you can get about ten in a box for 3 or 4 pounds. Cards are a shocking price, and the person who gets the card NEVER thinks what a tat card, they just think, "oh elizabeth thought of me".

I have had to stop shopping as a type of hobby. i did used to amble about the shops. I don't do that now.

I bought Oasis jeans perfect fit in a charity shop recently. I look in the charity shops near me quite regularly. OH yes, I never pay full price for a book. Only get them from charity shops, and even then, NOT Oxfam!!!!! They're too expensive for a charity shop (for me).

I NEVER buy magazines any more, but I do remove them from other people's recycling bins some times.. shock

Parmesan scootergrrrrrrrl!!! I think you'll find Pecorino tastes the same and is cheaper!! Not that I eat it regularly. But I've bought Pecorino once or twice in my life.

I let it be known in as ladylike and as dignified a manner as I can wink that I am not terribly wealthy. That way I know people won't take it personally if I buy them a small but thoughtful gift.

I fill up a bottle of tap water before I leave the house too.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ElizabethBeresfordSW19 on Fri 16-May-08 18:38:48
Sainsbury's used to deliver my food and either delivery was free on a mon-wed, or, if I got it delivered between 4-6 on a friday they were ALWAYS late, and so I got £10 of next weeks shopping!
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on 10k less than I used to be before dd was born and with a bigger mortgage!!

Asda great for kids clothes and adult stuff too. If you like them bags of dried beans/chickpeas are better than tins and cost a lot less (just have to rememeber to be organised enough to ccok them).

Charity shops and find a decent dress makers that can "make-over" old clothes, when you're fed up with stuff see if it can be revamped, you can also get stuff from charity shops and do this or if good with a needel do it yourself!

Buy books from used section of amazon, make cards, take picnics wherever you go and don't go out for coffee/lunch (this used up a huge part of my disposable income). It's not applicable to the op but taking my own lunch into work has saved me at least £25 a week and I've shed my baby weight!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By scattyspice on Fri 16-May-08 18:51:33
Another vote for Lidl. I get everything there. Even got dolls house furniture for DDs birthday (exactly the same as ELC stuff but 1/3 price).

Also Oxfam for clothes and toys.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By foxythesnowfox on Fri 16-May-08 18:51:49
There was an article in yesterdays Guardian where Jay Rayner, the restaurant critic tried a selection of products from Aldi - another of the cheaper supermarkets. Some things were hideous, according to him, but there were some gems as well. Things like chorizo, cheeses, antipasti, anything which originates from the country its actually produced in is worth a try in my book.

But what I really love about Lidl is that it has weekly offers. Of things like riding or diving gear, and other weekly shopping basket essentials grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Fri 16-May-08 19:23:09
oh yeah must remember to get my diving gear in lidl! lol

seems like theres a world out there for me to discover.

b love the magazine ide, now that is recycling !grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Fri 16-May-08 19:30:36
after cleaning my kitchen cupboards out i have,

in my kitchen cupboards i have.....

tin of prunes from when i was PG
dried fruit-out of date, can i still eat them? would you? perhaps ok in cakes?
3 packs of paxo stuffing for 20 people!
[alright for the next time i have 60 round for a roast!lol] must of ben on offr or something
self raising flour
plain flour
caster sugar
icing sugar
nesquick! how the fuck did that get in there dh im gonna kill you !
pasta
rissotto rice
paprika
5 spice
mixed herbs
jerk spice
macaroni
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Thefearlessfreak on Fri 16-May-08 19:41:17
Clear out your wardrobe, but put clothes you are bored with (rather than they are knackered or hideous!) aside and away somewhere. For a rest. When you get them back out they seem to have new life in them & can be worn again as if new (well, nearly!)

Toys - as everyone has said, charity shops, hand me downs...toy library. Children need few toys really. Simple empty tubs & boxes can be entertaining.

Charity shops are addictive - I LOVE the bargains I find for me & ds.

Nappies - re-usable of course are prob best. But Lidl do brill normal disposable £4.99 for 44

Food- definitely plan meals & shop with a purpose. Don't buy bits & pieces for different meals throughout the week. Tell yourself you're not going to buy anything else after one big shop. Try to stick to it (except with essentials). Be innovative with ingredients that you have...look on mumsnet or google for recipes. Use lovely things like lentils, rice, pasta, polenta and cous cous...SO cheap!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MilaMae on Fri 16-May-08 19:59:52
Some brilliant ideas.

Just one thing personally I wouldn't get a veg box if you're on a budget. We had one for years. I stopped it a few months ago as we were eating around the box,the kids wouldn't eat a lot of it and I found we couldn't eat as frugally as we wanted too as I'd shop for some key ingredients to accomodate the veg box stuff iykwim.

We save sooooo much money since we stopped it,the cost of the box alone, my weekly bill has dropped hugely as we can have jackets etc when ever we feel like it not having a particular veg to use up. I also used to find a lot of the veg is what I call luxury items eg rocket,psb etc. Lovely but not really essential when you're on a budget.

As soon as we're a bit more flush I'll start it up again though.

Visit your local tip too. I get all our big outdoor toys from ours as they pull masses of stuff out and put it in a recycling area. I got 3 cozy coupes for a fiver each(have 3 kids under 5, not going mad). We got a lovely old garden bench for a fiver. A friend of mine got a brand new play kitchen and recently another got one of those Silver Cross pushchairs with all the bits!!!!!!!!!! They have loads of really interesting things,you can get nearly everything.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Nina2 on Fri 16-May-08 20:03:36
I'm always been working short term contracts so we've always had to work on the basis of one income (even when we've been a little more flush) when budgeting. Things I've found are...

* Economise, but don't turn into a puritan as you'll end up feeling resentful.
* Enjoy little treats for what they are and the pleasure they bring.
* Cloth nappies grin
* As others have said, plan meals and take a shopping list. I've got a little whiteboard in the kitchen and when
the last tin or whatever is started, it goes on the list.
* Only buy non-perishable items that you already use regularly as buy one get one free. Get 3 or 4 when they're on special.

And the killer...give up wearing makeup! shock
I'm not a tree-hugging lentil botherer, I enjoy looking nice to go out, my dh likes the way I look without it (bless) so I decided that I don't need it in my life and sod it to what anyone else thinks. 5 years on it's saved me a small fortune!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Nina2 on Fri 16-May-08 20:05:28
Oh and I'm not proud when it comes to ds's clothes and accept all donations. What I don't like or need gets passed on to a charity shop or friend. Someone has probably said that one already too blush.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By foxythesnowfox on Fri 16-May-08 20:08:33
shock give up make-up?!!! Now you can take things too far wink You'll be suggesting a mooncup next! grin

Have you got a local market nearby? You can usual buy local, cheap, good quality fruit and veg.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Fri 16-May-08 20:16:34
don't often wear make up, only about 20% of the time and then its a bit of mascara and lipgloss

this thread is full of fab practical tips smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk on Fri 16-May-08 20:18:14
yeah theres a market nearby
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By spicemonster on Fri 16-May-08 20:18:16
Someone on here (kewcumber I think) suggested that you keep aside a certain amount every week for treats like coffees, mags etc and that when it's gone, it's gone. I've found that works brilliantly for me. I allow five quid a week on crap and that's that. It makes the odd mag or coffee feel really indulgent.

I also save all my boots points and use them to buy make up so I can still buy the odd expensive thing here and there. Same with nectar points - I use them for treats.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Quadrophenia on Fri 16-May-08 20:25:22
meal plan, meal plan and meal plan, I feed a family of six on £50 a week and that includes meat. We have very little waste. We are also in the process of getting a run around car to save petrol and walk as often as possible. I keep an eye on my phone usage and phone other mobiles as little as possible. We have a twenty pound slush fund each week, this buys any extras eg lottery, newspapers, wine and when its gone thats it...no more.hth
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By foxythesnowfox on Fri 16-May-08 20:28:33
Quadrophenia, can you give me an idea of your meal-plan please? I am very impressed. I do try to plan, but I don't seem able to stick to it.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By WestCountryLass on Fri 16-May-08 20:30:34
The ways I save money are:

1. Go to Aldi once a month to stock up on store cupboard basics.

2. Use www.mysupermarket.com and transfer my trolley to the cheapest online store.

3. Otherwise I shop at Morrisons, I find it cheaper on the things I need to buy than Asda.

4. Meal plan and do shopping list.

5. I don't buy that many clothes for the kids, they are given plenty of things as a gift and second hand, I usually end up buying boring things like undie and pyjamas.

6. Have an Invitation book and plan days out around that and take packed lunches!

7. Buy our clothes in the sale. Tend to only buy clothes from places like Fat Face/White Stuff but only get a few things and wear them. Don't buy loads of cheap stuff as does not laugh and end up not wearing.

Am sure there are loads more things!
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does not last!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MilaMae on Fri 16-May-08 20:37:06
Ooh yes I'd love Quad's meal plan too,need some serious inspiration!!!! Anybody else who can feed their family for under£80 a week could you put yours on too-pleeease!!!!!!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Quadrophenia on Fri 16-May-08 20:37:49
foxythesnow, my meal plan largely depends on our shifts and whether we are eating as a family or not. I buy lots of potatoes for jackets and stuff to go on them as a reserve and allow for two 'convenient' options a week which are normally pizza, jackets with carrot and cucumber and a fish fingers, chips and peas. This week we have also had chicken tikka marinade with sald and garlic bread, spaghetti bolognese, pasta bake, sausage toad in the hole with broccoli and parsnip and carrot mash etc. I tend to buy any sauces and jar stuff that i don't make myse;f when its on offer.
my for children alwasy ahve brown bread sandwiches with either chicken or cheese for packed lunch with a value ffrais, value biscuit bar and a piece of fruit. I would love to deviate and be more exciting but we can afford this. hth
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Quadrophenia on Fri 16-May-08 20:42:11
btw the only frozen food I ever buy are fish fingers and frozen chips, other than that i find typical convenience food to be a false economy. Most shops do offers on chicken breast and i buy these when on offer and then use mince etc, veg lasagne is another cheap option, most shops do cheap lasagne sheets and home made tomato and white sauces are cheap enough.
One food product which doesn't seem to have risen to much is dairy, morrisons are fantastic in their cheese offers, none of this is about eating top quality food but I conisder our diet to be fairly balanced.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By kategarden on Fri 16-May-08 20:43:56
Sounds daft but I reckon one of the best things if you can is to try and hang out with people on a similar or lower income to you. Its really hard if your friends want to go out to places you can't really afford, or their children have loads of expensive stuff that yours then want.
Round here, everyone is on a budget (apart from the 2nd home owners) so everyone is in the same boat.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Twinklemegan on Fri 16-May-08 20:58:05
There are some great tips on this thread. I'll add my own tip about shopping (sorry if it's been mentioned and I've forgotten). If I see something I think I want, I walk away and if I still want it a week later then I might go back. 9 times out of 10 I've forgotten what it even was!

We probably spend about £60 a week for me, DH, a toddler and two cats, including nappies, toiletries and household stuff. I'm constantly trying to reduce this but I'm finding it hard in the current climate.

I'm likely to get a fairly substantial wage cut in September (the price of hopefully getting my job permanently hmm) so we're preparing all the time. We've got a way to go yet.
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Thanks Quad smile
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Heated on Fri 16-May-08 21:06:12
Did what the moneysaving expert suggested and moved down a brand when shopping. I only shop online so it's very easy to meal plan - was spending £120 a week, now about £80 as I'm more organised. If you shop midweek at sainsburys delivery only costs £2.50, as someone said earlier if they're ever late (they'll always ring to tell you) they give £10 vouchers as good will.

I avoid ebay but will have bought fab clothes, books and toys for dcs at car boots. Their garden slide, rocker, full toy kitchen, work bench, garage etc all come from car boots and are in fab nick. I usually only buy new clothes in the sales.

Also I buy Xmas presents throughout the year when I come across a bargain.

I don't need an all-singing, all dancing mobile phone. We don't need SkyTV. Phone (unlimited calls) & high speed broadband costs £20 a month. Unless tied in,