Mumsnet logoby parents for parents
home search join my Mumsnet recipes reviews local sites blogs member discounts shopping classifieds contact a mumsnetter games
log in

moon
Sainsburys Feed your family Fabulous fish cakes for a fiver. With our Fabulous fish cakes recipe you really can feed your whole family a delicious meal for less than a fiver. This is just one of five brand new purse-friendly recipes from Sainsbury’s. Take a look! Sainsburys Sainsburys
Mumsnet Discussions: Parenting : How is my 4 year old dd 1 point off having a bmi that makes her obese??? (23 messages)
Add a message Watch this thread Flip this thread Add new thread in this topic
"
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By LuLu15 on Sun 11-May-08 18:53:01
After watching Too Fat to Toddle and my mil commenting on my dd's weight I decided to weigh her and measure her height and work out her bmi. It is 18 which means she is definitely overweight and nearing obese. Ok, I'm her mother and maybe too close to see the reality but I don't see her as fat let alone obese. Hand on heart we feed her really healthy food - no fizzy drinks at all ever, fruit as snacks, brown rice, brown bread, skimmed milk, etc etc. She runs around every day at nursery and has just started ballet - she is on the waiting list for swimming classes too. What can I do but starve her fgs? I'm not talking about any of this infront of her as I'm well aware of the implications of doing this. What can I do? Will she lose the weight naturally or should I worry?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By WigWamBam on Sun 11-May-08 18:55:11
Adult BMI charts are no good for children; if you have used one, you won't get an accurate result.

Is her height in proportion to her weight? If so, there's no problem.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By McDreamy on Sun 11-May-08 18:56:56
I thought the same as WWB, BMI charts are not designed for children.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By McDreamy on Sun 11-May-08 18:57:27
Where is she on her centiles?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By serenity on Sun 11-May-08 19:02:00
BMI charts definitly don't work for children - I got the Wii Fit for my birthady which works all that jubbins out for you. In order to play the games you have to 'register' each person playing and according to that my DD (who's so thin that trousers that fit her length, fall down on her waist) is overweight, as is DS2 who has the same problem. If you have to check whether she is in proportion, it's far better to use the charts in the Red book, which are at least aimed at children.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ranting on Sun 11-May-08 19:02:42
My ds was really chubby as a child, in fact when he was 8 months he was practically off the charts. The HV told me to put him on a diet but as he ate really well, no junk and was active, I didn't heed her advice.
He is now as skinny as a rake, he was just really chubby as a child.
If she's active, doesn't eat rubbish day in, day out then I wouldn't worry about it too much tbh, I know several teens who were quite chubby toddlers, none of them are overweight now.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Flame on Sun 11-May-08 19:04:11
Even the red books are silly. DD is 50th for height (or was it 25th??) and 75th for weight. School nurse tells me to watch she doesn't get fat hmm

Look at my profile.

She is sturdy, but there isn't an ounce of fat on her angry

Just glad she didn't hear the woman say it or it would be 4 yr old with a complex.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ranting on Sun 11-May-08 19:05:28
Ahh your dcs are gorgeous Flame.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By piratecat on Sun 11-May-08 19:06:08
she looks like a normal little girl to me.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Flame on Sun 11-May-08 19:09:24
Thank you (isn't it weird how you can take pride in something that you had sod all control over? blush)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bigTillyMint on Sun 11-May-08 19:10:07
I think some kids are more muscular than others, and muscle weighs heavier - people are always amazed at how much I weigh, but I'm a size 10 - 12. My DH is VERY muscular, and so are both our kids - wear the size for their age (often too loose around the waist) but are on a bit higher percentile for weight than height
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RustyBear on Sun 11-May-08 19:10:51
Don't get this - even if adult BMIs were appropriate for children, a BMI of 18 is bordering on underweight not obese....
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By lilymolly on Sun 11-May-08 19:14:50
agree with rusty bear
BMI below 20 is underweight. Normal BMI is between 20 and 25 anything over 25 is overweight over 30 is obese
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By spicemonster on Sun 11-May-08 19:15:09
FGS Flame I'd be furious with the school nurse - your DD looks perfectly normal (not sure about your DS on the other hand though wink)

In a few years, the current health scare will be that all our children have eating disorders. Makes me very cross
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Flame on Sun 11-May-08 19:15:40
lmao - we all have our doubts about DS wink
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By serenity on Sun 11-May-08 19:18:00
Your Dcs are lovely smile

For reason I was expecting them to be redheads though....must be the 'Flame' thing! I'd never 'worry' about a child's weight (unless they're obviously being unhealthily affected by it) until they were in their teens. DS1 is starting to get a bit chubby, but at his age IME that tends to happen just before puberty - he's likely to top 6', so needs to build up before he does that scary shooting up thing boys do! If you just looked at him now though, and didn't consider his age etc, you'd just maybe he's overweight.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By minster on Sun 11-May-08 20:14:32
On the children's BMI chart a BMI of 13.5-18 is considered normal, over 18 is overweight.

It depends a great deal on a child's build though, my daughter's BMI hovers between 17.5 & 18.5*. People can't believe it when I tell them - she's slim but extremely athletic (a swimmer's build) strong, muscular arms & broad shoulders. I tell her she's lucky to have such a wonderful strong body

(*well I've worked it out three times in the last two years, out of curiosity really, it isn't an obsession!)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By LuLu15 on Sun 11-May-08 20:54:57
I used the child bmi chart and also the centile graph. She came out as being in the 85-90 percentile which means is at risk of being overweight. This can't be wrong can it? Btw she is 3 ft 3 and weighs 2 stone 11 lbs. If anyone can reassure me I'd feel a lot better.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Sanguine on Mon 12-May-08 09:32:50
Too much obsession with little lines on graphs in this world. The lines are all about a normal distribution. SO, if you gathered 100 children of the same age and arranged them in order of weight, and then went and found the child standing in the middle of the line-up, that child would be on the 50th centile. But she wouldn't be on the 50th centile if it wasn't for the fact half of the others are heavier than her and half are lighter than her. Not everyone can be average!

Lulu15 - 90th centile means that your LO would be towards the heavier end of the line up, but not out of the normal range. If she's healthy and happy and active, you need have no concerns.

My DH was a huge, chunky and heavy baby. He's now 6'3" and weighs only 11 stone. I'm not fat, I have a "comfortable" size 14 figure, but I was a smallish baby. You just can't tell. Tell your MIL to go away and leave you to enjoy your lovely little girl in peace!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KristinaM on Mon 12-May-08 09:36:49
flame - do you mean your DD in the dora top? she looks TOTALLY normal to me

your HV is an idiot grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By alarkaspree on Mon 12-May-08 09:44:39
Really it is quite easy to tell if a child is overweight, although I understand your concern about maybe not being impartial. Why don't you ask a couple of friends for an honest opinion? Even if your dd is a bit chubby that's quite normal at nursery age.

I think BMIs can be a bit misleading anyway. I read once that Brad Pitt would be overweight and George Clooney obese according to their BMIs. I'm sure that many professional athletes would be too.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Flame on Mon 12-May-08 17:32:32
Yup, that's the one Kristina!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KristinaM on Mon 12-May-08 18:29:41
smile

stay away from mad hv


Add your message here

Message
Emphasis: To bold a word, surround it with asterisks, so *hello* will display hello. For underline use _ , so _hello_ gives hello. For italics use ^, so ^hello^ gives hello. To strike out a word, surround it with two hyphens either side, so --dog-- gives dog

Links and smileys: To insert a smiley face,  , type [smile] or :)
For a big grin,  , type [grin] or :o
For a wink,  , type [wink]
For a shocked face,  , type [shock]
For an angry face,  , type [angry]
For an embarrassed face,  , type [blush]
For a sad face,  , type [sad] or :(
For an envious face,  , type [envy]
For a sceptical face,  , type [hmm]

Links The simplest way to insert a link is to enter the link itself, surrounded by [[ and ]]. So if you type [[www.mumsnet.com]], the link will display as http://www.mumsnet.com. If you want your link to display text other than the web address itself, leave a space after the address then add the text before the ]]. So "Look at [[www.mumsnet.com this page]]", would display "Look at this page".
Nickname:
Password:
To post a message you need a valid mumsnet nickname and password. If you have forgotten your nickname, click here for a reminder. If you are not yet a member of mumsnet, you can join here.