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Contact mumsnet about this post From MEDIA: farmer Joy placed on Mon 04-Feb-08 22:02:56
outdoor learning

I'm delivering a course for staff at a children's centre
in February. It's to encourage staff to have a positive outlook
to outdoor learning. Not discouraging children by body
language , shivering and saying its cold.
Children wearing appropriate clothes, (which I am way out of touch with.)
My youngest is 19!
Mumsnetters must have heard of the Outdoor Learning Manifesto.?
How many mumsnetters encourage, whatever the weather a short/long outdoor
play everyday?
How do most mums rate the importance of outdoor learning and it's
contribution to confidence and self esteem?
Outdoor activity/play/walk to the shops is so important in the initial
stages of life I would like to canvas some current opinions of parents who are
'in the thick' of parenting at present.
Can the mumsnet team/mums share their ideas which I can pass on to my students?
Thank you so much
Farmer Joy
Cronkshaw Fold Farm and Study Centre
www.cronkshaw.co.uk



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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By pinkdolly on Tue 05-Feb-08 06:34:53
We try to encourage outdoor activities everyday with our girls (5, 4 and 18 months). Whether its a walk into town (most days). Long walks on the beach or trips to the park or woods.

My 3 children are home schooled and one of the many reasons I choose to do this is so that we can do more outdoor learning time.

We are blessed to live down in Cornwall so we have easy access to beaches and the countryside

We believe that time out to explore nature and the world around them is vital to their upbringing.

Hope that helps
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By 2sugars on Tue 05-Feb-08 06:47:05
I encourage outdoor play too but it's blinkin' cold out there now.

What are you after? DDs wear completely innapropriate clothes, in my opinion, but say they don't feel the cold hmm

I encourage outdoor play every day, but it doesn't mean they'll forgo their Club Penguin/Webkinz/whatever, much as I try.

The best outdoor thing they've done recently is going to the woods - actually an arboretum (sp, sorry).
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By 2sugars on Tue 05-Feb-08 06:48:56
And btw, my dds are 8 and 9, and I've never heard of the Outdoor Learning Manifesto.

Whose manifesto is it?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Tue 05-Feb-08 11:48:36
I try but tbh, it's bloody freezing. lol

No seriously, we do do something outdoors most days, even if it's just tidying up the garden.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Tue 05-Feb-08 11:49:22
whoops,

never heard of the manifesto either, and I have 5 lo's.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bigspender30 on Wed 06-Feb-08 16:48:04
never heard of the manifesto either sorry. Could you post a link on here? As a fellow mumsnetter once said, toddlers are like dogs and need walked at least once a day! It's true.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Wed 06-Feb-08 17:01:45
lol at dogs, I got those bloody uncontrolable lurchers then.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Whizzz on Wed 06-Feb-08 17:08:40
I've never heard of the manifesto but do encourage my 7yr old to play out (although not every day & mostly in the summer). We go for walks & walk to school & I always make sure that we point out things of interest & look at whats around us. As far as its contribution to confidence and self esteem - hmm not sure of that one, how would you say it differs from building confidence from indoor play (unless you mean leaping off tall objects / climbing frames etc??)
I think many kids can't come up with games outside unless there are swings / park etc & that's something that parents can help with
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MaeBee on Wed 06-Feb-08 19:07:01
despite living inner city leeds, me and my partner are furiously into nature. we are both eco-anarchists, and child goes to a Steiner toddler group and will be going to a Steiner kindergarten after that.am pleased to see my kid (16mths) seems to be toddling the same way.
i too haven't heard of the manifesto. 'manifesto' sounds a bit offputting! maybe thats just me!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MaeBee on Wed 06-Feb-08 19:12:49
oh, forgot to answer the questions!
child goes crazy if stuck indoors all day. as do i. i kind of go with "theres no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothing." a trip to the urban farm is my little ones dream outing, even though its a regular event. we walk to toddler groups within little legs walking distance, and the walk can take quite a journey.
we don't have a car. that helps.
we do comment on the weather. "brrrr" seems fun to our boy at moment, even though we don't try and say it postively particularly. our house is pretty freezing so we do comment on it being cold indoors too!
he's not yet 1 1/2 but can recognise and make noises of several different types of bird! even though that includes feral pigeons...
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By muppetgirl on Wed 06-Feb-08 19:18:34
We walk the dogs everyday, have taken photos of snails, flowers and doors (oh yes ds 1 loved the doors!) His school is fantastic as he wears a boiler suit that covers his unifrom to play outside so he isn't resticted by worrying about getting himself dirty. He has dug holes at school, planted bulbs and enjoys all the outside activities they provide as the outside learning environment is taken very seriously.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By nickytwotimes on Wed 06-Feb-08 19:22:52
Hello Farmer
My ds 1 is 18 mths old and I take him out at least once a day, but usually twice. This is partly because I lik ehim to get fresh air and partly because he is so much easier to entertain outdoors! At the moment it is so wet and we usually just walk to places rather than remain outdoors for any length of time. For me, it is never too cold to take a lo out, so long as they are well dressed and will keep the woolies on! As for outdoor play, at his age, everything is amazing so just walking for half an hour stimulates him. We are lucky enough to live near a National Trust park so we go there frequently to walk and look at the different birds and animals. We also live next to a cemetery and , yes, i know it's morbid, but we walk round there because it is so peaceful and free from traffic!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By TheDevilWearsPrimark on Wed 06-Feb-08 19:27:16
Mine go crazy if they don't spend at least 1/3 of the waking day outside.
They always go out rain or shine, and at times we haven't had a garden it's been to local parks or trips out to 'proper countryside'.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Iota on Wed 06-Feb-08 19:39:12
we have a forest school programme in Milton Keynes: see here

A new and exciting initiative is now available for the
children of Milton Keynes. With the help of Heritage
Lottery Fund and Aggregates Levy Sustainability Fund, a
three year project has been started to enable our children
to take part in forest schools.
Forest schools provide:
• education in a woodland setting that is framed by
strict safety routines with a high adult to pupil ratio;
• learning that is linked to the National Curriculum and
foundation stage objectives whilst setting these
objectives within in a different concept and not just
focused on the natural environment;
• a focus on the whole child not just their academic
ability;
• regular outdoor contact over a significant period of
time.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Iota on Wed 06-Feb-08 19:41:43
it is held at the Hanson centre
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By farmerJoy on Mon 11-Feb-08 22:17:04
Hi Mumsnetters here’s some info/contact details you may be interested in.

The Outdoor Learning Manifesto recognises the importance of the value of learning outside the classroom.
Children who for instance have Forest school experience have stronger social skills, greater ability to work in a group and generally have higher self esteem and confidence in their own ability.
FACE, Farming and countryside education is an organisation dedicated to improving food,farming and countryside education.
Thank you for your views so far.
Farmer Joy
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By loopyredangel on Sun 17-Feb-08 21:21:36
At the childrens centre we go to, the leader is going to buy outfits suitable for role playing, and she planned to paint a stage background on the wall. I offered to paint it and she said yes, I am of course doing it for free as it encourages children to play outside and use their imagination. Looking forward to doing it, haven't painted a big mural in a while.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By TurkeyLurkey on Sun 17-Feb-08 21:33:42
I have a DS (7) and DD (5) who both attend the local primary which is going for Forest School status I believe. They spend every friday learning outdoors, even in the midst of winter. We live a rural area and the school is next to some woods and they seem to have great fun building dens etc, even in the depths of winter. We are asked to send them in wellies and suitable clothes on a friday and they normally come home FILTHY.

DS in particular gets a lot out of it. Not sure about DD who has always been a bit of a one for her home comforts. The teacher did say at parents evening that she's fine for a while but then asks when they're "going inside for a nice warm"!

I'm glad the school does this though. I always likened DS to a dog when he was little in that he needed a "run" every day. They come home physically knackered and muddy on a friday which is great to see.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hotbot on Sun 17-Feb-08 21:37:39
dd 16 mths loves the outdoors, she has playtime everyday,, fresh air is brill...
its never too cold, we just pile the layers on.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KatyMac on Sun 17-Feb-08 21:37:44
I am very interested in this

I am trying to open an eco nursery & intend that the children spend lots of time out of doors

We will have lots of outside space, vegetable beds, chickens and do lots of play & gardening


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