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Mumsnet Discussions: Miscarriage : How to speed up a natural miscarriage? (21 messages)
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By napa on Fri 11-Apr-08 07:16:43
glad things are starting naturally after your wait. hope its not too bad. take care of yourself
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By scully on Fri 11-Apr-08 01:01:29
Well I'm relieved in a way, 2wks after finding out pregnancy wasn't viable, m/c began on Wed. Haven't had any cramping, constant bleeding but not heavy so, so far, ok as it can be.
I go back to see the gynae today to see what they, will probably have a scan in a week or two to make sure it's a complete m/c.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By joanjude on Wed 09-Apr-08 15:09:49
Thanks ThursdayNext - made call to EPAU seeing them Friday morning will know for definite then.

To those in a dilemma over intervention (I had to have intervention as concerns over infection) I had the ERPC and it wasn’t a bad experience and went on to conceive on the next cycle (although lost it). It had a sense of being over whereas the natural mc lasted over 2 weeks and having blood tests and scans every few days always clinging on to the chance that things maybe ok
One thing is for certain mc are such a different experience for everyone – you see them on telly and its dramatic pain, gushing blood and over in minutes! I’ve never had to take a paracetamol!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ThursdayNext on Wed 09-Apr-08 13:41:10
Alicia, how are you getting on? I had also started bleeding, but was given different advice from you and was encouraged to have some kind of intervention.
I didn't have any symptoms with that pregnancy either (my first), but I had very bad morning sickness from early on when pregnant with DS and DD. It makes me wonder if there was something wrong with the pregnancy that ended in miscarriage from the very beginning, if you see what I mean, so that it was never really going to result in a baby?

Joanjude, I don't know if you have an early pregnancy unit at your local hospital, but I found my local one very helpful. They offer advice, treatment and scans. I think it can take quite a long time from spotting to miscarriage, if that is what's happening, so it might be worth checking out. I hope you find it a bit more bearable this time if you are having a miscarriage.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By joanjude on Wed 09-Apr-08 09:45:37
Logged on here looking for the very same info! have had 2 mc - first missed mc had ERPC second natural - 6 weeks now and lightly spotting, absence of pg sypmtoms. Not seen a Dr yet but just know - just wish it was over. Not sure what to do whether to sit it out or go to see a Dr.

Got a 2 yr old DS but still feel so very very sad but I was devasted after initial mcs - hope don't feel like that again!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Jacanne on Tue 08-Apr-08 20:45:32
My first pregnancy ended at 10 weeks but it was a missed miscarriage so it had in fact not gone beyond about 5 weeks. I had quite a lot of bleeding and passed some quite big clots as well as intense period pains so I suppose they are all different.

Sorry that you are having to go through this
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By llareggub on Tue 08-Apr-08 20:32:33
Thanks whomovedmychocolate. That is useful to know.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By whomovedmychocolate on Tue 08-Apr-08 20:28:11
llareggub - Flu like symptoms - feeling generally crappy and knackered, sore muscles, fever, can indicate an infection. Pain also but you can have that with miscarriage with no infection. Also vaginal discharge which burns or smells etc.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By PrePG on Tue 08-Apr-08 10:47:11
I had a similar situation as well. I started to spot a bit at 11 weeks, went in for a scan and there was no heartbeat. The baby measured only 7 weeks, but I had had a scan at 6+3 which showed a heartbeat.

I started spotting on the Friday, bled like a normal-ish period throughout the weekend and it wasn't until the Tuesday night that I had very painful cramps. Ended up spending most of that night in the bathroom and passed the sac. I was able to feel it, it felt like a lot of pressure and then something just falling out of me (sorry if TMI). After that it returned to light bleeding for another several days. In all, I think I bled for about 10 days.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By scully on Tue 08-Apr-08 05:46:37
I could have started this thread, scary how many of us are here at the same point, at the same time sad
Hi Alicia, I saw you on the other thread. I have also been avoiding an erpc, had one last year and it was ok, just didn't want a 2nd one if I didn't have to. I should be 10wks, but there was no development past 6wks. It will be 2wks this Thurs since we were told pregnancy wasn't viable and 4wks Sat since my 1st scan when all the doubt began. Not that I'm counting or anything but just feels like an eternity.
My hospital hasn't given me the option of taking any medication to speed it along, I haven't asked though either. The consultant and my gp have both said that the amount of bleeding can vary, considering it was earlier than last year's m/c.
They are just monitoring my hcg levels once a week to check they are reducing, and leaving the decision up to me. Some days I think I must be a bit mad to live in limbo like this, but just wasn't entirely comfortable with an erpc, when I have had no symptons.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By llareggub on Mon 07-Apr-08 22:31:53
What do the flu like symptoms indicate?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By AliciaJohns on Mon 07-Apr-08 22:00:21
Yes it's funny isn't it, I never thought I had ANY intuition whatsoever, but perhaps I have more than I thought! I know what you mean about just being cells etc - but i had a scan at 6 weeks after some initial bleeding, and at that point there WAS a heartbeat - so I can't help thinking of it as a baby. Nothing I can do about it though, and a natural process is probably easier to recover from and with less risks to me?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By whomovedmychocolate on Mon 07-Apr-08 21:56:48
You may not at six weeks, until your next period. Be on the lookout for flu-like symptoms. You may just find your next period is a bit heavier than normal.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By llareggub on Mon 07-Apr-08 21:55:41
Sorry to hijack, but I am in a similar position although my pregnancy did not progress beyond 6 weeks. I haven't had a bleed, how long should I wait before seeking advice?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By whomovedmychocolate on Mon 07-Apr-08 21:51:59
I felt the same with both miscarriages - they just felt different to DD and DS.

As far as flushing the baby down the loo, you aren't. At your point in gestation there's no heartbeat, nothing more than a bunch of potential cells. I'd far rather deal with things myself at home than be the subject of a medical waste bin at the hospital. Rest up and let things unfold, it'll be okay. You are doing what's right for you.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By AliciaJohns on Mon 07-Apr-08 21:48:24
Thanks guys, funny thing is I kind of knew it wasn't right cos I never really 'felt pregnant' like I did with ds (now 15 months).

Thursday I was given the same options as you but the nurse basically advised me to go with the natural process as I had already started bleeding. I would prefer to avoid intervention although it's upsetting me that I am basically flushing my baby down the loo... silly I know, but I can't help dwelling on that.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ThursdayNext on Mon 07-Apr-08 21:33:42
In a similar position to you, I was given the choice of waiting for a natural miscarriage, taking drugs to make a miscarriage occur or having a D and C.
I waited for a few days hopeing for a truly natural miscarriage but then opted for the drugs as wanted to avoid a DandC and found the waiting really hard.
Don't know if that's an option at your hospital? I found the miscarriage itself OK.
Much sympathy, it's so tough.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By whomovedmychocolate on Mon 07-Apr-08 21:31:53
Ah thank you but I'm really lucky, I've lost two and I have a DD and am pregnant with DS now (23 weeks) so it can all work out.

It is a horrible thing to go through but you will get through this and there will be other chances and hopefully next time you will sail through, probably without even realising you are pregnant till the kicks start. I conceived this baby two weeks after miscarrying the last one!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By AliciaJohns on Mon 07-Apr-08 21:26:08
Thanks. It's just awful isn't it (massive understatement!)? Sorry you have had to go through this twice. I hope I never have to deal with this again. Thanks for your advice.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By whomovedmychocolate on Mon 07-Apr-08 20:58:51
Sorry to say, but the bleeding you've experienced may be all you get. If your baby was only measuring seven and a half weeks, that's how far on I was when I lost my first and all that came out was a normal period type bleed, not even that heavy. The second time it was much heavier but it really does depend on the particular miscarriage.

I found exercise made the bleed heavier and obviously anything that causes uterine contractions (e.g. things like orgasm though you probably don't feel up to it) can help squash things down and out.

Bear in mind as well if you are using towels with dry weave top sheets they suck in an enormous amount and soak up clots fairly effectively overnight so it's hard to tell how much has gone into them.

You can delay the D&C a few more days btw so long as you have no signs of infection - obviously if you can naturally expel everything it's better than a surgical procedure, both for you now and for your future pregnancies.

Sorry you are going through this, it is just horrible
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By AliciaJohns on Mon 07-Apr-08 20:52:28
In brief: was 10 weeks pg and had some bleeding, went for a scan on Friday and there was no heartbeat, and baby was measuring only 7 weeks 4 days. Have been bleeding all weekend but only period type bleeding and no pain. Have to go back on Friday for another scan to check progress and am worried that I will be booked in for a D&C if things are not moving, which I really don't want.

I've been drinking raspberry leaf tea in the hope that this may help move things along, but does anyone have any other advice?


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