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Mumsnet Discussions: Baby names : Do you give family names as middle names? (61 messages)
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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Califrau on Mon 05-May-08 18:32:11
ds1 has 2 family names from DH's side and one from mine.
DS2 has an utterly random 1st name, a middle name after 3 good friends of mine (and 2 crushes wink) and my Nana's maiden name to redress the balance.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By PeachyHas4BoysAndLovesIt on Mon 05-May-08 18:23:06
Sometimes.

DS1 has my amiden name as a middle name.

DS2 has a random name.

DS3 has my favourite pop star grin and a family name as two middle names

ds4 has DH's middle name, who was the chap who adopted FIL
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By shelleylou on Mon 05-May-08 18:21:17
My ds has a family name but was done inadvertantly. Ds went through a few middle name one of which was 1 or my db middle names so we changed it. It went to a choice of two and the one we decided on is also a middle name of one of my db which i didnt think of untill he'd had it for a few days. Didnt change it as it suited ds and wouldnt upset anyone
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Rolf on Mon 05-May-08 18:18:24
We've used a mixture. Our children have 3 names, then their surname:

DS1 - first name, family name from my side, family name from DH's side, surname

DS2 - first name, family name from DH's side, Christian name from my side, surname

DD - first name, "normal" middle name, family name from DH's side, surname

I think it's a really nice thing to do. You can still chose any name you like as a first name but it's a way of remembering people who (or stories of whom) have had an effect on you.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By amyjade on Mon 05-May-08 16:20:57
Dd1 has same middle name as my mum- Rose
Dd2 has a very meaningful name as she was born 8 weeks after Dd1 passed away- Hope
Ds has Dh name-James
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By AbbeyA on Sun 04-May-08 22:26:33
I think that it is quite nice to have a family name (if you have reasonable family names)but I thought it was also a way of using names that you like but might be difficult for every day. I haven't got a DD but have always liked the name Verity which I might be a bit worried about landing someone with but would be good as a second name-equally names like Miranda and Rosalind.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By slinkiemalinki on Sun 04-May-08 20:25:13
I know a lot of people (generally posh blokes from university) who have family middle names that sound more like surnames. Is this what you mean or do you mean naming the baby after another member of the family?
I just picked a name I liked and went with her first name. I don't think you should feel constrained but a nice touch if there's someone you want to honour in that way I guess
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Astrophe on Sat 03-May-08 21:07:32
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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Astrophe on Sat 03-May-08 21:06:57
Thank you stripeymama! Sorry to stalk you! I will go for 2-4 then I think... she is 100cm, and long in the body, not the leg. I can always send them back or pass them to a make if they're no good...so cheap! And ethical too!

(sorry for the hijack!)
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By EachPeachPearMum on Sat 03-May-08 20:54:21
We gave dd 1 grandmothers name as second name, another grandmother's maiden name as 3rd name.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By stripeymama on Sat 03-May-08 20:54:12
Only just! Twas in junk folder.

I went on dd's height (which they specify in the size guide) as she is quite tall for her age. We had the 2-4 ones when she was just three and the 4-6 ones by the time she was 4.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Astrophe on Sat 03-May-08 20:45:07
stripeymama - I CATed you, did you get it yet?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By stripeymama on Sat 03-May-08 20:42:26
I've never heard of the idea of middle names being 'family names' before.

DD's middle name was our first choice for a first name, but we felt it was a bit 'much'. Not to mention impossible to spell. So it got used as a middle name.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By singersgirl on Sat 03-May-08 20:38:49
Mine do - couldn't see the point of giving middle names otherwise. So DS1 has both grandfathers' names and DS2 has DH's name and my stepfather's name.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Sat 03-May-08 20:28:24
I'm like the OP, I was quite surprised when I found that people just gave middle names that they liked. In my family daughters usually have the middle name Scott. My db has a middle name that comes from my Dad's side of the family. My ds has his birth mother's surname as a middle name, as well as my Dad's name. In fact most people I knew when I was growing up had a significant middle name, in the sense that it's in honour of someone or something, or there is some sort of story to it, whereas their first name was chosen because their parents liked it.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By edam on Sat 03-May-08 20:17:23
ds has both grandads' first names as his two middle names. Dh's idea - he was very firm about it.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By LaundryFairy on Sat 03-May-08 20:16:11
We did a bit of a cheat and gave DS two middle names - one is a name that we just like and the other is my surname, since I didn't change my name when we got married.

Luckily, in spite of having 4 names, it doesn't sound at all posh because of the names used...
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By barnstaple on Sat 03-May-08 20:15:25
My dad had a family name as his second name and then a family surname as his third name (after which he had his real surname).

I have several friends whose full names are made like that. Happily mine isn't and nor is dd's.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By jingleyjen on Sat 03-May-08 20:04:55
DS1 has my fathers name (in the middle)
DS2 has my grandfather inLaw's (in the middle)
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Sixer on Sat 03-May-08 20:00:46
two boys and both have family names. DS1 has great grandma's maiden name as his first and his dad's middle name, DS2 has both grandads names. To us it was important that our DC carry family names onwards. That's special.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hatrick on Sat 03-May-08 19:54:45
David Baddiel's daughter is called Dolly.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RustyBear on Sat 03-May-08 19:53:35
Dorothy could become Dolly - after all Molly & Polly are gaining in popularity recently...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By PillockOfTheCommunity on Sat 03-May-08 19:53:03
My boys have 2 middle names, one a family name and one that I chose because I liked it
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By DarthVader on Sat 03-May-08 19:51:25
Yes, my dd has her Great Grandma's name followed by her Grandma's name
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hatrick on Sat 03-May-08 19:49:27
Dorothea is great, can be shortened to Thea too.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By HonorMatopoeia on Sat 03-May-08 19:47:25
Gertrude became Trudy and Dorothy we could do nothing with so took Grandma's second name instead!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By AbbeyA on Sat 03-May-08 19:42:10
How did you modernise Gertrude and Dorothy?
I have family names like Winifred, Elsie,Doris, Reginald, Sidney, Alfred etc and refuse to use them!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By HonorMatopoeia on Sat 03-May-08 19:03:26
Yes, dd1 has my nan's name (sort of modernised) as her middle name.
Dd2 has my Grandmas's name (again, an adaptation of) as her second name and Dh's Grandmother's name as a third name.
I like the fact the names will continue in the family and it was also a way of showing the Nans / Grandma's that they were important in our Dc's lives.
(However, Gertrude and Dorothy were not options, hence we modernised them!!)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By FourPlusOne on Sat 03-May-08 19:00:03
DS has DHs middle name as a middle name which is also a family name on DHs side. Don't completely love this name but it is pretty inoffensive and goes with his 1st name. DD has a middle name that we just liked. If DC3 is a girl I may use my mums name as a middle name, but only because I like it and it goes well with the name we have chosen.

No one asked/expected us to use these names though. If we do have a girl though I am looking forward to telling my mum that she has her name as her middle one (I don't mention names to anyone but DH until DCs are born so she doesn't know). I think that my mum would be secretly pleased even though she woudn't expect us to do it.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By AbbeyA on Sat 03-May-08 18:50:09
It depends on the family names. I would have loved to have used my father's names but they are both horrible and I wouldn't inflict them on a DC! However I see on this names thread that they are coming back into fashion! I wasn't going to use them just because my grandparent's liked them! I didn't have a DD but unfortunately my mother's name is horrible, even she has never liked it.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By reban on Sat 03-May-08 18:40:31
I always think of a middle name as a family name. My middle name is Anne after my aunt who was my godmother and she was named after her grandmother. My dd1's middle name is her grandmothers' name (they are both marys) ds1's middle name is my fathers and ds2's middle name is dp's dads (he died when my dp was only 6). I am expecting number 4 who will have either my moms middle name or dp's stepdads name as middle name. I think its important to have family meaning to middle names .. although we have been lucky that we have been able to stick to grandparents .. i wouldnt want to have to decide between siblings!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By amidaiwish on Sat 03-May-08 18:33:33
i did
each DD has a grandmother's name as their middle name
then they have my surname as an extra middle name
followed by dh surname

i think it's nice.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Spink on Sat 03-May-08 17:52:22
Yep, ds's middle name is Feliks after my lovely great grandfather, and if we have a dd, she will have middle name Annie after dh's mum who died a few years ago.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RustyBear on Sat 03-May-08 17:47:08
DS's third name is my dad's name - Stuart- but he now uses it as his second - his original second name was one that we liked at the time. We changed our minds about it soon after but didn't get round to changing it within the year - DS doesn't like it either and he never uses it.

DD's middle name is Alexandra; she has a cousin called Alexander, but she's not really called after him, we just liked the name. In fact, it might have been her first name if we hadn't thought it might be confusing for the grandparents.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By windygalestoday on Sat 03-May-08 17:43:30
my mil died and she was the last person in her family with her maiden name she kept it even tho she married .....we had an unexpected 3rd baby after she died and he has her surname as well it was a way of keeping the name alive
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By pointydog on Sat 03-May-08 17:40:54
We did, yes. Wouldn't have bothered otherwise.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By sfxmum on Sat 03-May-08 17:37:57
I am, rather
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By sfxmum on Sat 03-May-08 17:37:38
My dd also has my surname as in maiden name along with dh's that is the norm where I can from
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By sweetkitty on Sat 03-May-08 17:37:21
hatrick - her first name is agreed her second/middle name is actually the name of my Aunt - Grace so in a way is a family name but also one we like.

If DD3 had been DS he would have had DP's name as his middle name which is also the name of DP's Grandad.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By NotABanana on Sat 03-May-08 17:36:45
My youngest son is the only one who has a family name as his middle name but DS1 picked it, and it wasn't until we brought the baby home that I realised the name was his Grandad's middle name. I did think about changing it but DS1 had picked it and really wanted it.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hatrick on Sat 03-May-08 17:35:42
lol yes can't wait to see that reunion grin

Ah I see from this thread that it is pretty common to do the family thing- feel less dopey now, might even be tempted to sod the family and give ds a completely new middle name, actually that would be very much easier than having to choose a family member grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Astrophe on Sat 03-May-08 17:34:48
both ours have a family name as a middle name, as well as my maiden name, so two middle names each.

It seems to me much more meaningful and personal to use family names - to choose a non family name seems a bit random to me.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By dinny on Sat 03-May-08 17:31:32
as in - my ds is looking forward to seeing your dd2
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By dinny on Sat 03-May-08 17:31:13
Hatrick, we can't wait to see you. Esp ds and dd2, lol
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By sfxmum on Sat 03-May-08 17:30:36
yes dd has my mum's name as a middle name if/ when we have another the middle name will come from one of the grandparents
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Martianbishop on Sat 03-May-08 17:30:09
Both of mine have two family names as given names( but I like all the names). they also have my surname as a given name (not hyphenated) then DH's surname
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hatrick on Sat 03-May-08 17:29:02
Collision, dd2's middle name is Frances after dh's sister.
I quite like Italo grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VictorianSqualor on Sat 03-May-08 17:28:23
Oh meant to add, if we have another boy, the middle name (William) is also DP's middle name, after his grandad.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VictorianSqualor on Sat 03-May-08 17:26:37
All three of mine have family names as middle names, DD has a first name similar to myXDP's brother (her uncle, just the feminine version spelled differently) and her middle name is her grandmas(Frances) and DS1's first name is a diminuitive of my Dads name with his middle names being his paternal grandads(Michael Alan).

but DS2's first name was just one I liked and his middle name is same as DP's brother(Oliver).

If we have another boy the first name will be just one we like, middle name would be DP's grandads(William), a girl would be a first name we liked, middle name DP's mum(Caroline), but that's only because we like those names, fi we didn't we'd choose just any name we liked.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hatrick on Sat 03-May-08 17:25:57
FP Bernard is great grin

Dinny will definitely be there next Sat- so looking forward to seeing you all.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By collision on Sat 03-May-08 17:24:53
I'm with you Hatrick!

It never occurred to me that you would just give a name because you liked it and both our boys have family names as do myself and 3 brothers!

My middle name is my Mum's middle name, Frances.

DB1 has Dad's name as a middle name - Anthony.

DB2 has Grandad's name - Edward.

DB3 has other Grandad's name - Charles.

Dsis has middle name of my cousin - Victoria.

My ds's middle names are after Dad and BIL so his middle names are Anthony Stiva.

DS2 is after DH and his Grandad so his middle names are Luca Italo. (poor kid stuck with Italo!! grin)
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By funnypeculiar on Sat 03-May-08 17:23:45
Ds has my uncle's name as middle name
Dd has my sister's
(Mine is my mum's sisters)

My brothers & sisters all have family middle names (of various levels of hideousness - think Edel (now cool I suspect, wasn't then!) , Dennis, Bernard...
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By dinny on Sat 03-May-08 17:23:24
noooo way! that'd be so cool! go on!!

so, Sat OK? be great to see you! can't believe it's only 9 weeks. are you and E in cahoots?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hatrick on Sat 03-May-08 17:23:23
Tommy that is a nice mix of reasons.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By izzybiz on Sat 03-May-08 17:22:14
My Ds has his fathers name as a middle name

My Dd has my SIL name as a middle name, not really done on purpose, but I love the name and it fitted perfectly!

Im pregnant now and thinking of using Dh's name as a middle name for a boy, maybe a female family member for a girl too.

I think its lovely, I like a name to have meaning behind it.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hatrick on Sat 03-May-08 17:22:12
Wow , how fantastic about E.

Due in July [9 weeks]

Funnily enough Dinny your ds's middle name was a contender for ds for a while-you know how much I love it.

At the moment it looks like he will be Nico but Ezra and Cyrus are simmering too grin

Sweetkitty have you chosen a definite for dd3 now?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Tommy on Sat 03-May-08 17:20:38
DS1's middle name is his great grandad's name - named after him because I reckoned it was pretty good to have a great grandad

DS2's middle name is just a name we liked that wasn't suitable as a first name

DS3's middle name is the name we were going to give the baby I miscarried a couple of years before

So - lots of different reasons! smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By pootleflump on Sat 03-May-08 17:19:33
dd has 2 middle names, first one is the 2nd choice name we had for her and the 2nd is my maiden name.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By dinny on Sat 03-May-08 17:18:28
names we liked for us, Hatrick

what you thinking for ds name wise? and when are you due? so funny, remember E? she is expecting her 4th in Oct!!!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By sweetkitty on Sat 03-May-08 17:18:11
DD1 has a family middle name

DD2 does not

DD3 will not either they just have names we like
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hatrick on Sat 03-May-08 17:16:33
I always thought that was what middle names were all about- didn't even occur to me that actually sometimes people just like to give another name they like blush

Our dds have [as a result of us thinking this was the done thing] all got family names as middle names [dd3 has an added name that I just loved and was determined to add- so she has 2 middle names]
Now we are expecting a boy and have the lovely task of choosing a family name for him as a middle lol. The male members of our family are all poised ready to be the chosen one.
So do you do the family thing or have you just gone with names you particularly fancied?


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