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Mumsnet Discussions: Education : Teaching PHSE, anyone do it? (36 messages)
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HonoriaGlossop on Thu 15-May-08 18:32:55
Just wondering - I am thinking of re-training as a teacher and have seen a job advertised locally to do the graduate teacher programme on the job while teaching PHSE.

Would welcome any thoughts or comments on this!

I don't have teaching experience btw
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By UnderRated on Thu 15-May-08 18:34:12
I used to teach it in Primary and loved it. That doesn't help you much though.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HonoriaGlossop on Thu 15-May-08 18:40:54
grin thanks Under. Actually anything helps as I am just finding out about it and know nothing. Am already feeling that I'm unlikely to get it anyway as someone with classroom experience will doubtless go for it...o well
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By UnderRated on Thu 15-May-08 18:42:20
Well, you can try. Is it primary or secondary?

I loved chatting with the kids about social issues. I learnt a lot from them. Even 8 yr olds can be quite sensitive and wise.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By twinsetandpearls on Thu 15-May-08 18:43:28
I teach PSHE, secondary and love it.

My only warning would be that not many schools have dedicated PSHE teachers so I would train to teach another subject and say you are willing to teach PSHE.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Iota on Thu 15-May-08 18:45:19
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HonoriaGlossop on Thu 15-May-08 18:50:08
blimey, this is more response than I thought I'd get - thanks! Under, it is secondary - have looked up the school and it's ofsted outstanding etc so that sounds promising.

That is a VERY good point twinset, thanks - hadn't actually thought of that...

and ta for the link
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By UnderRated on Thu 15-May-08 18:51:50
I think a second subject is a good idea too. Gives you more options in the long-run. Good luck
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By iCod on Thu 15-May-08 18:52:42
memememememem

god i LOVE IT
but you do need ot be pretty confident to do it
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HonoriaGlossop on Thu 15-May-08 18:56:22
Thanks Cod - have to say, I think confidence isn't an issue for me; at one time it would have been but statutory social work has been SO scary at times that there is VERY little that I'm not confident about now grin

Though i suppose I should reserve judgement till I have tried to talk sex ed to a group of 30 yr 11s hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HonoriaGlossop on Thu 15-May-08 18:57:21
have to zoom off for a bit but will check back later for any other thoughts

thanks everyone
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By iCod on Thu 15-May-08 18:58:28
hmm mroe like Y8
a y9 girl at the very nromal gaff i am at condifded in a teacher that sh was worried abotu stis

" did oyu not use a condome then"

" no not for anal"

shock

nto only that but teachign styles
you cant take refuge in "open the book" you haev to be very flexibel and inventive
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By twinsetandpearls on Thu 15-May-08 19:01:38
My first ever PSHE lesson involved me not being able to put a condom on a plastic willy while the boys made balloons out of them and the girls were demonstrating their ability to them blindfolded with their mouths. grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Janni on Thu 15-May-08 19:08:00
I've only just come across this subject now my first child is at secondary and it sounds fascinating and extremely relevant. He certainly enjoys the lessons.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By UnderRated on Thu 15-May-08 19:15:41
What a fab lesson, twinset. You don;t get that in primary schools. A 9yr old did tell me how to roll a joint in great detail and the 10yr old who was found with a condom in her pocket said she got it from her mum to use when she 'helped' her at work. Mum was the local hooker. And the police/ social services didn't care. angry
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By twinsetandpearls on Thu 15-May-08 19:16:14
Do you want that in primary schools????
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By UnderRated on Thu 15-May-08 19:17:47
Noooooooo. That;s why I chose to work in primary schools - so I didn;t have to deal with that!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By twinsetandpearls on Thu 15-May-08 19:18:30
Each to our own, I could not do primary. Sounds like we are in the right jobs.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By UnderRated on Thu 15-May-08 19:21:45
Yes, it's a good thing we can all manage different situations (and children).
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HonoriaGlossop on Thu 15-May-08 20:31:57
now this IS where social work has prepared me I think, because I know pre-SW I would have been shocked by that yr 9 anal comment

I really would like to still be shocked actually sad

please tell me there is more to it than sex ed.......what else would I be doing?!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By iCod on Thu 15-May-08 20:41:29
citizenship
c onsumer stuff
development issues
drugs
date rape
solvent abuse
deomstic violence
social skills
relationshop thingies
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HonoriaGlossop on Thu 15-May-08 20:43:14
oh ta

relationship thingies - guess I will only understand the technical lingo when fully trained wink
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By iCod on Thu 15-May-08 20:52:11
you knwo
here
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By iCod on Thu 15-May-08 20:52:28
"Emotional Health and Wellbeing "
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By iCod on Thu 15-May-08 20:53:45
im sure htey will be pleased to haev you
the hard thign will be if its a subject held inlwo esteem
how its been taught in the past and how much of a god teacher you are.
its tough to make lessons look casual - tkaes IMO a lot of skill!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HonoriaGlossop on Thu 15-May-08 20:56:21
thanks alot Cod. That's a very good point about how they view the whole subject. I will check it out carefully
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By roisin on Thu 15-May-08 20:58:02
hmm...
Yes, it's a subject held in low esteem in our place: by other staff, students and the PSHE teachers!

I'm glad you're enjoying it iCod.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Moomin on Thu 15-May-08 21:06:42
I'm an english teacher but have been teaching our school's version of PHSE since Sept which includes elements of citizenship, morals, ethics, drugs relationships and sex. I love it! WE have vertical groupings (all year groups) for some themes whiuch has been really interesting, seeing how the younger pupils work with the older ones; and then most recently have taught sex and relationships to Y9 which has been the best part of the year, imo.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Moomin on Thu 15-May-08 21:08:31
oh and in response to roisin's post - it's very high profile in our school as we have a house system and it's all tied into this and how the pupils are integrated and working with all ages. So not all schools have it low down the agenda.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By scaryteacher on Thu 15-May-08 21:09:37
Organisational skills are taught as well, as is all the bullying stuff, discrimination, and if you are really lucky, you get to do a whole week of it instead of activities week for year 7, on climate change and reduce, reuse, recycle. Talk about watching paint dry! DS has done a bit of first aid and water safety.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Beetroot on Thu 15-May-08 21:10:55
I would love to teach that
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HonoriaGlossop on Thu 15-May-08 21:16:10
This is all interesting stuff thanks, am taking it ALL in
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By iCod on Fri 16-May-08 07:31:19
beety youd be way better at it than me wiht oyur drama background.
if i was on a permanenet contract( and am vaguely hopeful abotu next year) id love to do a lOT OF raining
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By iCod on Fri 16-May-08 07:31:56
....and in our gaff thekdis love it as its almost the onyl lesson where oyu cn just talk..
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hercules1 on Fri 16-May-08 07:54:57
I do and also have the accreditation thing in teaching it too. I really enjoy it but totally agree with others about having another subject. It has a good profile in relation to the whole every child matters thing and has recently got a subject association who are working to make it compulsory.
I really enjoy teaching it.
It is true that it is generally seen as a pretty low subject by other teachers and management but I reckon as time goes on this will improve.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By iCod on Wed 04-Jun-08 21:16:34
any update


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