STEINER WALDORF SCHOOLS AND INSTITUTIONS #2
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The steiner waldorf thread ran to a halt because apparently a 1000 messages are a maximum. Let's continue here!!
Does the 1000 posts mean it's time to start a new thread?

Pig hats?
Link to stockists pls.
"God, these threads are tedious.
I think MNHQ should remove the copy and paste facility, and you'd all become far more concise and to the point.
Maybe."
Like your post perhaps?

"I understand if it's too taxing for you."
Thank you.
"And you will continue to attempt to define for us what is true and what is good."
I will?
"Since I'm not Rudolf Steiner nor have ever claimed to be, unlike you, I don't know what the central idea of anthroposophy was for Steiner or if there even was one."
One needs but to actually READ Steiner to discover this.
"It appears to me that the constitution of man, as a physical being, as an ensouled being, and as a spiritual being is the core component."
No - as I said that's pretty much the "core component" of all religions. It would be like describing football as a game that is played with a ball. There's more to it (depending on which side of the pond one is on of course).
"Say whatever you'd like. Am expressed opinion on your part conveys no obligation or duty on my part."
Your "duty" in a discussion is to discuss.
Or stop. Obfuscation is neither your obligation nor your duty and doesn't advance the discussion at all.
""It's up to me" implies some perceived r
responsibility on your part."
Indeed it does.
"Seems to me then, that in your view each person is free to determine meaning for themselves and act accordingly."
Absolutely.
"I believe that I said that I had not experienced what I would decribe as the gross lack of integrity that you have and you agreed."
Word games... that's why I'm not going to discuss this with you any more. You can put a hat on a pig - it's still a pig.
"God, these threads are tedious.
I think MNHQ should remove the copy and paste facility, and you'd all become far more concise and to the point.
Maybe."
I agree"
Ditto
"God, these threads are tedious.
I think MNHQ should remove the copy and paste facility, and you'd all become far more concise and to the point.
Maybe."
I agree.

God, these threads are tedious.
I think MNHQ should remove the copy and paste facility, and you'd all become far more concise and to the point.
Maybe.
"No - actually explaining yourself would not be boring... but then watching you go through your song and dance to avoid answering questions is also somewhat entertaining. You're certainly not boring - just not worth engaging in a dialog sometimes."
I understand if it's too taxing for you.
"Answer truthfully and it will make for a good discussion. Continue to dodge the questions and it makes for good entertainment. Your call..."
And you will continue to attempt to define for us what is true and what is good.
"The central idea of Anthroposophy, again for me,"
"That's a DODGE... What was it for Steiner?"
Since I'm not Rudolf Steiner nor have ever claimed to be, unlike you, I don't know what the central idea of anthroposophy was for Steiner or if there even was one. It appears to me that the constitution of man, as a physical being, as an ensouled being, and as a spiritual being is the core component.
"You obviously have a very different (I might say "simple") idea of what Anthroposophy is - and what you claim it is, it's not (you should read up a bit)."
Say whatever you'd like. Am expressed opinion on your part conveys no obligation or duty on my part.
"You are certainly welcome to intepret Steiner's writings in any way that they make sense for you, or perhaps whichever way is most entertaining."
"Well, so far, YOUR interpretations have been the most entertaining. But nobody cares about my interpretation, nor yours."
Sweeping generalizations such as this one, which include everyone are not apt to be true.
"Steiner's works are available on the internet for everyone to read for themselves. Each person can certainly draw their own conclusions - right from the horse's mouth."
I think that's what I said-minus the horse reference.
"And that way each person can decide for themselves if Steiner's racism and anti-Semitism, and for that matter, everything that Steiner ever said, is important to them or not. It's up to me as a critic of Waldorf, to demonstrate where these things exist in Waldorf and how they manifest in the curriculum and daily activities of the children."
"It's up to me" implies some perceived responsibility on your part. Seems to me then, that in your view each person is free to determine meaning for themselves and act accordingly.
"BTW, I can anticipate your response, that you have never personally witnessed, or heard of anything like the things I discuss here... so there's no point in you making it each time - at least not for my benefit (perhaps there are one or two people here who may still believe it's possible)."
I believe that I said that I had not experienced what I would decribe as the gross lack of integrity that you have and you agreed.
"The only spiritual ladder that man may climb that I know of is as follows: Man, Christ, God."
"Huh?"
"Has there been any progress here in the Steiner thread? How is it all coming along?"
"Progress"? Why yes, several people have arrived here and went screaming for the hills. They're probably safer there.
Are you expecting this to move toward some sort of conclusion?

Has there been any progress here in the Steiner thread? How is it all coming along?
"No, just trying not to bore you."
No - actually explaining yourself would not be boring... but then watching you go through your song and dance to avoid answering questions is also somewhat entertaining. You're certainly not boring - just not worth engaging in a dialog sometimes. Answer truthfully and it will make for a good discussion. Continue to dodge the questions and it makes for good entertainment. Your call...

"The central idea of Anthroposophy, again for me,"
That's a DODGE... What was it for Steiner?
"is that man is a threefold being whose consciousness evolves over time."
You obviously have a very different (I might say "simple") idea of what Anthroposophy is - and what you claim it is, it's not (you should read up a bit).
"You are certainly welcome to intepret Steiner's writings in any way that they make sense for you, or perhaps whichever way is most entertaining."
Well, so far, YOUR interpretations have been the most entertaining.

But nobody cares about my interpretation, nor yours. Steiner's works are available on the internet for everyone to read for themselves. Each person can certainly draw their own conclusions - right from the horse's mouth.
And that way each person can decide for themselves if Steiner's racism and anti-Semitism, and for that matter, everything that Steiner ever said, is important to them or not. It's up to me as a critic of Waldorf, to demonstrate where these things exist in Waldorf and how they manifest in the curriculum and daily activities of the children.
BTW, I can anticipate your response, that you have never personally witnessed, or heard of anything like the things I discuss here... so there's no point in you making it each time - at least not for
my benefit (perhaps there are one or two people here who may still believe it's possible).
"The only spiritual ladder that man may climb that I know of is as follows: Man, Christ, God."
Huh?

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