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Mumsnet Discussions: Allergies : Oh No! Persil have changed their formula! (33 messages)
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Millarkie on Thu 15-May-08 12:39:12
And ds is now covered in excema

He had excema as a baby which was made worse by Bold, Fairy and Ecover washing powders but Persil non-bio was fine....and now they've changed it....and sure enough ds has gone scaley and itchy

Anyone else having this problem?

We think that it's Lavender which he is particularly sensitive to - anyone know if surcare (?) has lavender in.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By luciemule on Thu 15-May-08 12:51:44
My surcare softener has lavender in it - not sure about the washing powder/liquid.

Last year, I had a massive reaction to Persil and havng sent them a sample, after I had asked whether they'd changed perfume (it's usually the perfume they change rather than the formula) they sent the results which confimred that the PH for that batch was over what it should be. They were very apologetic.

I did notice though, the persil fragrance has dramatically changed recently so I guess it might be that.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By popmum on Thu 15-May-08 12:54:34
try filetti (pink pack) - tis v good for sensitive skin. Not always in tesco but sainsburys and waitrose have it
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Saz73 on Thu 15-May-08 12:57:21
Funny you should mention that I've used Persil non bio since DS was born (he's nearly 5 now) and had really bad eczma. It's been totally clear now for near 2 yrs, But just recently it's reappeared on his arms and fingers. Maybe just a coincidence.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bearmama on Thu 15-May-08 12:58:46
Why the need for perfume??? angry
I use surcare, dont think it has lavender, but do check.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By clutteredup on Thu 15-May-08 13:00:20
thank you - yes i have had the same problem . my ds is sensitive and i found it was only persil ordinary that didn't cause a reaction and now he's coming outin rashes again - it would explain it- and now you mention it i have noticed i can smell my washing again, you don't smell it when its the same all the time. hey ho off to find another that doesn't react.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By luciemule on Thu 15-May-08 13:01:04
Forgot to say that it was non bio I was talking about
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mummyeme on Thu 15-May-08 13:18:30
Hi,
Dds had exaclty the same problem, she has exczma and thats flared up a lot recently. Crikey Persil should realise whats happening, I didn't think to check the Persil as I had assumed they'd always be careful with the non bio, and didn't think that it would change.
Thankyou very much for raising it.
Anyone got other good non bio recomendations (and maybe a spell checker for me - Sorry)
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By clutteredup on Thu 15-May-08 13:24:08
I have had the same problem with the ordinary Persil too so it looks like they've changed all the ones. ironically my DS had reactions to the non bio but not the bio.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By pooka on Thu 15-May-08 13:30:40
How weird - ds has had a bit of a flare up lately, and dh took him to the docs. Usual questions about whether had changed fabric detergent. But still use persil non-bio like always have. This might explain the flare up.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Loshad on Thu 15-May-08 13:32:40
Surcare has no lavender in it, also very good is Boots own brand sensitive skin washin powder.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Nbg on Thu 15-May-08 13:33:09
Yes yes yes, we are having the same here!

Ds1 has been covered in red blotchy patches which just spread and got bigger.

Ds2 has got it now too.

I noticed that the smell of it has changed.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By frankie3 on Thu 15-May-08 13:33:13
I use Persil non-bio and I have also noticed that my washing has started to have a strong smell. I thought that my washing machine was maybe not rinsing properly..... but now realise it must be the tablets.

Has anyone tried Ecover?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Nbg on Thu 15-May-08 13:33:47
Forgot to add ds1 was prescribed Aveeno cream and Hydromol.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Nbg on Thu 15-May-08 13:35:09
Frankie, I bought ecover and I didnt see a difference but we were using it in conjunction with the creams so I wouldn't know if it was that or the cream that helped.

I personally didnt like it because there isnt really a scent to it.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Enid on Thu 15-May-08 13:35:14
filetti is brilliant

unfortunately it is expensive and my local sainsburys and tescos dont stock it any more

I use boots senstive skin now
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Enid on Thu 15-May-08 13:36:13
I dont rate ecover

it didnt help dd2s excema and it smells horrible
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By theyoungvisiter on Thu 15-May-08 13:45:40
I'm not having a problem with eczema (although I do suffer with it occasionally) but I did notice the change in formula big time as the new scent they use makes me violently sick.

I am pregnant and suffering pretty bad morning sickness but I never had a problem with the old formula. I had to throw away a huge 5k box and am now trying various others to see if I can tolerate any.

Isn't it weird? SHall we start a campaign to revert to the old formula!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Nbg on Thu 15-May-08 13:48:31
I think we should forward this to Persil.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mummyeme on Thu 15-May-08 13:54:38
I've just called persil to report it and said that a lot of people are experiencing the same problem. They said my comments will be forwarded but they can only advise that the liquid hasn't changed, so stick to that !?!
Can't say I'm satisfied that they'll do anything other than log my conversation angry
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mummyeme on Thu 15-May-08 13:57:03
When I said that people are looking for alternatives, his advise was that an alternative product was a great risk of causing the same problem aaaagggghhhhhh and to stick to persil was the safest option
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Nbg on Thu 15-May-08 14:05:59
I use powder not liquid.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Millarkie on Thu 15-May-08 14:13:12
mummyene - thanks for calling persil - I might try the liquid - I use the tablets at the moment and have 2 big boxes of the new stinky nasty type because it was on special offer.

Ds definitely has problems with ecover - dMIL used to wash his clothes at her place if he stayed over (she used to look after him one day a week) and then he flared up if he wore them and I used to have to wash them twice to get rid of it. It's taken 5 years to persuade her that she is not helping me by washing them!

I haven't tried Ariel yet - <sigh>

Has anyone been using Persil liquid without any problems??
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Millarkie on Thu 15-May-08 14:18:17
I'm ringing the persil advice line and i'm in queue....are you all ringing too?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By zippitippitoes on Thu 15-May-08 14:23:57
i am allergic to non bios

i use tesco bio and is fine tho their non bio isnt

i also reacted to ecover and surcare

i agree it is infuriating when they change the spec
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By fym on Thu 15-May-08 14:35:47
I have terrible allergy to Persil, so does DS

I only use Arial Sensitive - never had a problem with me or with DS.

Our allergy is sneezing/sore throats caused by the perfume rather than excema.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Millarkie on Thu 15-May-08 14:46:00
Well, I've spoken to the (very busy) persil advice line - the liquid has not been changed and the Aloe Vera range is also non-bio so might be worth a go.
Advice line woman said that 'bear in mind that it's only just changed and they haven't decided if it's a long term change'...sounds like they might consider changing back.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Enid on Thu 15-May-08 15:39:10
fairy non bio was the WORST for dd2s skin
closely follwed by persil
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By fym on Thu 15-May-08 19:49:41
I agree Enid - the two we are worst with are persil and Fairy....
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By canofworms on Thu 15-May-08 19:52:16
This thread explains a lot!!

Wondered why dd1's eczema had suddenly flared up really badly after years of having it under control!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mangojuice on Fri 16-May-08 14:03:43
We have switched to Co-Op non bio powder which seems (touch wood) not to aggravate my two dc's excema
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By twotimes on Sat 17-May-08 11:33:13
Hi you could try eco balls, then you wouldn't have to worry about allergens at all.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By flossyannie on Mon 19-May-08 13:09:55
I'm so pleased to read this thread because I was convinced that the formula of Persil non bio had changed because of the stronger smell but DH couldn't tell any difference and so I was starting to think I had gone mad!! DS's eczema got much worse shortly after I noticed the increased perfume so we have changed to Surcare and he is a lot better. Why on earth they increased the perfume goodness only knows.


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