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Mumsnet Discussions: Allergies : Desparately needing a sunblock that does not irritate DS's skin please. (43 messages)
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TheSweetLittleBunny on Mon 12-May-08 21:33:09
Any ideas. The last one I have tried is called Organic Children, bought online. It was fine last year, but now he is itching on his neck and inside his elbow and has come up in rash again.

Have tried most of the children's sunblocks available from Boots, Tesco's etc all with the same result. He used to suffer from eczema when younger, and though this has gone now these sunblocks all seem to make it come back. We have even gone down to SPF15 with no joy.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By chirpycherrycake on Mon 12-May-08 21:40:42
I used nivea on my DC, no ill-effects.
Good luck!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TheSweetLittleBunny on Mon 12-May-08 21:49:00
I heard that you have to throw sunblock away after a year is this true?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Likeasow on Mon 12-May-08 21:55:16
Mine are allergic to Soltan (it has some nut thing in it apparently) - I use Yaoh - got it from a health shop but they sell it online www.ethicalsuperstore.com
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Onlyaphase on Mon 12-May-08 21:57:27
Try Bergaderm - it is recommended for eczema sufferers. I use it on DD and she doesn't react to it as she does to some others, it needs only one application a day and is water and towel proof (within limits!). Available online or in bigger Sainsburys
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Califrau on Mon 12-May-08 21:57:38
yes sweet bunny.
Can you get the Aveeno sunblocks over there?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By lisa34 on Mon 12-May-08 21:58:47
My DS had exactly the same problem when he was younger - check the ingredients it turned out the my ds was allergic to lanolin which is in most sunblocks. Boots own brand does not contain lanolin and neither does Avon's sunblock. Hope this helps.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TheSweetLittleBunny on Mon 12-May-08 22:06:47
I wonder whether the Organic Children suncream is causing a reaction because I bought it last year? Should I just get a new one? Has anyone tried the E45 Sun Block?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By amidaiwish on Mon 12-May-08 22:41:39
the only suncream i can use is Piz Buin Allergy.

DD1 seems the same - gets a red rash, like heat rash if i use any other cream and she is in the sun.

soltan and ambre solaire seem to be the worst offenders for me whatever is in them i don't know...
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By avenanap on Mon 12-May-08 22:42:43
P20 works very well without the itching.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By TooTicky on Mon 12-May-08 22:44:37
Developed especially for people with allergies. Wonderful stuff
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By WendyWeber on Mon 12-May-08 22:49:29
Well, I'm not a child but do have fairly sensitive skin and don't get on with a lot of sunblocks; I have tried Ambre Solaire 50+ sensitive protection milk this weekend and it worked v well for me. (Tesco had it on BOGOF at £10.99 last week)

There is a kids' version too
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By anchovies on Mon 12-May-08 22:55:44
Ds and I both have very sensitive skin and find ultrasun very good. No prickly heat or allergic reaction. The reflex physical suncream one is good (but quite white!) but we are both fine with the factor 28 one too.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TheSweetLittleBunny on Tue 13-May-08 09:47:50
I have contacted Green People to get fresh samples of the Organic Children because it was really really good and smelled lovely too. I quite like the look of that Lavera Too Ticky and might try that one - but the E45 is recommended by the Eczema SOciety AND is available on prescription smile
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ash6605 on Tue 13-May-08 09:50:28
The only two brands that my dd aren't allergic to(and I have tried lots) are the Nivea ones and Avon.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By katz on Tue 13-May-08 09:52:35
our dermatologist recommends sunsense, which is available online

my dd2 seems to react to lots, nivea, soltan,amber solair about to try the sunsense.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MicrowaveOnly on Tue 13-May-08 09:55:13
I try and avoid sunblock on kids as I'm not convinced rubbing in all those chemicals into their skin can be a good thiing. Just cover them up. Long sleeved cool cotton and hats. Best sunscreen there is.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ggirl on Tue 13-May-08 09:58:04
I have shelves full of sunscreens that ds has reacted to that are supposedly for sensitive skin.
Bergaderm is the only one I have found that suits him.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By totalmisfit on Tue 13-May-08 09:59:20
i have been wondering the same thing. dd's excema flared up horribly the other day when i put ambre solare on her. She's much better with nivea baby factor 50, still some irritation tho'.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By aDad on Tue 13-May-08 10:00:09
we use the one tooticky linked to. And it is wonderful stuff.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By BeauLocks on Tue 13-May-08 10:01:46
We use Simple for Kids factor 50 or 30. My dc are allergic to pretty much every other type of sun cream.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Twinkie1 on Tue 13-May-08 10:07:25
Piz Buin do a good one for people with allergies.

Have you tried Aveeno - their cream cleared up DSs excema and am just waiting on a delivery from the ILs who have got us lots from the US!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TheSweetLittleBunny on Tue 13-May-08 10:14:03
MicrowaveOnly i see your point. However the ones like Organic Children, and Lavera are natural. It's the widely available commercial ones which have skin penetrating properties that are more likely to irritate. The natural ones use titanium dioxide or zinc oxide as well as other essential oils and moisturisers - but because they don't penetrate the skin, rather they can leave a whitish sheen to the skin that reflects the sun - for cosmetic reasons people tend to opt for the skin penetrating ones, and the shops tend to stock up on those more - which is bad news for those of us who have children who are ultra sensitive.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TheSweetLittleBunny on Tue 13-May-08 10:16:21
I wasn't too keen on the Aveeno because it seemed to have "other stuff" in it besides the good natural things - but I see that a couple of you have mentioned it so I will take a little look see.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MicrowaveOnly on Tue 13-May-08 18:02:22
Interesting - can you only get aveeno in the US then? or maybe health food shops stock it?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Dragonhart on Tue 13-May-08 20:04:01
I have just tried the E45 one and it has made ds's skin awful.

Aveeno cream works wonders on his skin day to day so might try that. Where is the best place to buy it from?

Does anyone know if it is the really thick white kind as ds seems to react worse to those?

(sorry to highjack sweetlittlebunny!)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By jennifersofia on Tue 13-May-08 20:13:25
Don't know how natural it is, but we use one from Australia called Sunsense toddler milk. (Google it to find a UK stockist) Have used it for last 7 years, seems to last a long time, totally effective and has never irritated either of the girls, both of whom suffer mild eczema.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mad4mybaby on Tue 13-May-08 20:23:47
you can buy sunsense off amazon
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VirginiaWoolf on Tue 13-May-08 20:29:45
There have been a few threads like this recently, including 1 I started in a grump about how much I've spent trying to find a suncream that doesn't irritate DS's skin. I'm afraid that they all seem to reach the same conclusion - all skin is different, so what suits one person's sensitive skin could really irritate another's - I see that Simple and Nivea have been recommended above, yet my DS reacts badly to both.
Good luck - I think it comes down to trial and error. We're currently using E45 on DS, and whilst his skin is OK so far I really hate it and find it difficult to wash off.
Sorry if that sounds like a rant!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TheSweetLittleBunny on Wed 14-May-08 10:24:58
You can get Aveeno online in the UK.

I have just got my GP to prescribe the E45, and have also bought some Lavera online as back up just in case. I guess it really is trial and error. This can be frustratingly expensive. Funnily enough though - DS only comes up in the rash on his arms, nowhere else - nor sure why?

I hope the E45 works, because then I can just keep getting it on prescription. If you want to try and get it, it's called E45 SUnreflective Sunscreen, and it goes up to factor 30. It is on the list on the National Eczema Society's website of "good ones" less likely to be irritants.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By foofi on Wed 14-May-08 10:27:59
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By smoggie on Wed 14-May-08 10:54:26
Bergaderm (formerly Proderm) here too. Only one that doesn't irritate. Quite interested in the Lavera spf 40 though.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Megglevache on Wed 14-May-08 11:01:34
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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By isaidno on Wed 14-May-08 11:04:59
the aveeno sunscreen is not available in the uk. I have been trying to find a supplier who will ship it over.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TheSweetLittleBunny on Wed 14-May-08 11:08:38
You can get Aveeno in the UK via
www.soft-skin.co.uk. Sorry I don't know how to do a link!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MegBusset on Wed 14-May-08 11:10:24
We have started using the E45 one on DS, who has eczema, and so far he hasn't reacted to it. Hope it works for you too.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By pofaced on Wed 14-May-08 11:10:46
Piz Buin factor 30 with anti allergenic stuff: protects skin and stops dd's sun allergy.... only one that's worked afetr 11 years of trial and error and reactions
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By isaidno on Wed 14-May-08 11:17:10
Thanks Bunny!! I couldn't find it anywhere!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Pinkveto on Wed 14-May-08 11:23:07
Ive just been to dermatology clinic with LO with excema. They recommended sun sense ultra for sensitive skin.

Although LO is fine at the moment with nivea...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By LunarSea on Wed 14-May-08 11:40:06
Look for one which is "PABA free". It's a common ingredient in sunblock, and a really common irritant too! We have some from Banana Boat, but not all their products are PABA free so check the labels.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By swerve on Wed 14-May-08 11:54:08
i use dr hauschka's, as does my niece who also very bad eczema. they have a kids one which is very high protection
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By katierocket on Wed 14-May-08 11:58:48
dr hauschka - really good


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