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Mumsnet Discussions: Am I being unreasonable? : to be pissed at sister (39 messages)
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 12:29:16
Will try to keep it short but....

My oldest sister lives 600 miles away from where my mum lives. I only live 5 miles from my mum. I have an arrangement with my mum whereas she take DS to school and also picks him up 4 days a week, so that I can work. On the friday mum works herself. Sis phoned beginning of week to say that she is going away this week (yest actually) and that her exDH is refusing to have their kids Thurs night even though he has then Wed and then from Friday to Monday. So sis phoned mum and asked her to come 600 miles to babysit. She has paid for her flight which is fine but her friend offered to have the kids for the night but she doesn't want to put her out but is quite happy to have mum lose a days work (friday) and leave me without childcare for the Thursday. Mum wasn't happy about it and initially said she couldn't do it then sis put guilt trip on her saying that me and her are in the same boat and solely rely on mum for sitter. I'm 5 miles down the road though not 500!

Sis's trip is work (or first day of it is work) and she's extended it for pleasure too which is why mum has to go down.

AIBU to be annoyed at her for expecting mum to drop all her commitements (and I'm not just talking about getting my DS) and travel 600 miles to babysit just because she doesn't want to put her friend out even though they offered?

Hope that makes sense
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 12:31:15
I don't solely rely on mum for sitter but i do for the school drop off and collection - as per our arrangement.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By lazarou on Thu 15-May-08 12:34:32
I think you are being a little bit unreasonable. Maybe she feels more comfortable having your mum there, plus it would be nice for your sisters children to see their grandmother.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By HumphreyCushion on Thu 15-May-08 12:34:52
It sounds like it might be your sister's turn to get some babysitting from your Mum.

I can see why you are annoyed though.
Do you have a friend who could do the school run for you - or could you alter your working hours for those few days?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By themoon66 on Thu 15-May-08 12:35:40
So your mum is flying 600 miles just for one night's babysitting?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By southeastastra on Thu 15-May-08 12:35:45
it would be nicer if you sis would have offered to have your mum to visit rather than babysit at the last minute. yanbu
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By vitomum on Thu 15-May-08 12:38:09
did your sister's ex back out of the thurs at short notice?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 12:45:59
It is great that mum is spending time with other grandkids and do not grudge them it one little bit but this is a paid arrangement between mum and me and I'm having to take unpaid half day from work.

Yes flying 600 miles for one night. She will pick kids up from after school club at six and then drop them off at school in the morning and fly back.

Parents make huge effort to see grandchild are go to visit at least every other month. This is the third time this has happened in the last two months and to be truthful it wouldn't be a problem if we were given more notice. Maybe IABU!

Vito- no he wasn't meant to have them Thurs but sis asked him to helpout as she would be away and he said no
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By modernart on Thu 15-May-08 12:47:38
A little unreasonable. Your sister is a single parent going on a work trip. She sounds like she could do with extending it into a mini break for some time to herself.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By lazarou on Thu 15-May-08 12:51:02
Sounds like your mum needs a break!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 12:51:21
She is a single parent and doing brilliantly but she is just back from long weekend in Peru, had a fortnights holiday in Egypt in March (which parents went to babysit for) and was away for another long weekend at end of Feb - all pleasure none business. Maybe she is in of a break!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 12:52:42
Yeah mum does need a break which is why we paid for her and dad to go on a holiday in may as a thank you grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 12:53:58
Just realised this is May hmm she's away in a fortnight for her holiday!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By EffiePerine on Thu 15-May-08 12:54:56
You are being a little competitive, non?

Surely your mum's decision to go? Maybe she's looking forward to it?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 12:57:41
How am I being competitive effie?

It is mum decision to go but I know she's not happy about even having arguement with sis about it before agreeing.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By southeastastra on Thu 15-May-08 12:58:44
can't see why your sister doesn't just ask her friend, it's only one day.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By WilyWombat on Thu 15-May-08 12:59:15
OK so how many people clicked on this to see if they had pissed their sister off? (phew it wasnt me) grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 13:00:36
grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By EffiePerine on Thu 15-May-08 13:00:56
well, if you both use your mother for childcare I can imagine all sorts of arguments would flare up

can see it from your sister's POV as well: your mum looks after your DS all the time AND you have a partner to help...

anyway, it's really down to your mum and sister. Even if you were paying a CM you would expect to cover holidays and other days when she had committments she couldn't break (you'd prob get a bit more notice though)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wobblyknicks on Thu 15-May-08 13:01:19
YANBU at all! Your mum said no to going 600 miles just to babysit for one night and your sister guilt-tripped her into it even though she had another option (the friend)! I'd be extremely peed off and tell my mum I thought sis was taking the piss but in the end it's still your mum's decision.

Why on earth can't your sis take up the friends offer (assuming the friend is competent to mind the kids), buy her a huge box of chocs afterwards for putting her out - everyone's happy!

In the end you can tell your mum your opinion but it's her choice and not really down to you to get cross because of your school run being disrupted. However, I'd definitely think less of my sis in this situation, seeing as it's for pleasure and she's already had a fair whack of holiday (if she'd never had a holiday and was on the verge of meltdown it would be a different matter).
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 13:04:17
Ok fair point. Its not as if her exdh doesn't have the kids though. He has them two nights a week and every other weekend.

There usually isn't arguments if we're given more notice.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wobblyknicks on Thu 15-May-08 13:04:27
Plus, unless I've misread, she booked this without having any cover for the Thursday (if she wasn't going to take the friends offer) - she's being very unreasonable, you can't arrange a fanciful holiday without getting your kids sorted out first!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 13:07:21
Spoke to mum about it but didn't want her too feel guilty about going down - they are her grandkids after all.

Dad isn't happy and has told sister that she can't expect mum to drop everything and fly away for one night at short notice
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By HumphreyCushion on Thu 15-May-08 13:08:36
Could your Dad do the school run for you?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 13:09:15
The wednesday away is business but she booked her return flights for the Monday hoping the ex would help and she could go sight seeing for a few days but its a messy divorce and ex said no so she was left stuck
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 13:10:56
Dad works too and gets less holidays and I wouldn't ask him to take holidays to pick DS up from school.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wobblyknicks on Thu 15-May-08 13:11:57
She should have asked first and then when she had no cover, arranged to come back straight after the business stuff hmm

*takes judgey hat off again*
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 13:14:01
Thats what my dad said when it was all first brought up. He told my mum to tell her that she couldn't go down because she was working so she'd have to come straight back instead of staying out there.

Dad thinks she's got a new man and has taken him with her for a wee dirty weekend grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wobblyknicks on Thu 15-May-08 13:53:13
Tsk - wish we could all do that grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By beaniesteve on Thu 15-May-08 14:11:08
yabu

Your mum should have said no if she really didn't want to do it or lose a days pay.
You're only pissed off because it inconveniences your childcare arrangements.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MagicMuffin on Thu 15-May-08 14:16:50
Lucky you, having such a supportive Mum, many people don't.

If you had a CM and they went sick you'd be in the same situation - that's life.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 14:55:01
Agreed, I am pissed that its inconveniencing my childcare arrangements so take that out of the equation.

I still don't think its been fair to ask my mum to make a 1000 mile round trip for less than 24 hours when someone the kids know well has already offered to have them overnight.

Just feel that it is times like this that sisters take advantage of the fact the mum feels guilty that she doesn't see the rest of the grandkids as much as she does of mine but that can't be helped - am I meant to turn down the support just because it would upset sisters who chose to live hundreds of miles away?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MagicMuffin on Thu 15-May-08 15:31:46
If you take out the childcare aspect of it the rest of it is none of your business.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 17:27:32
True take the kids out of the equation and it isn't any of my business but at the end of the day she's my mum and I'm the only one that is here and I'm the one that she turns to when she feels cornered by one of my sisters so am I not meant pass opinion on it when she comes to me about thing?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By scaryteacher on Thu 15-May-08 17:28:15
I hope your sister is paying for your mums flights as well, otherwise that is taking the piss. I live in Europe and my ma is in the UK, and I don't ask her to come and babysit for a night, nor would I.

YANBU at all, especially as you employ your mum to do the school run. I think your sister needs to sort herself out. One of the things you accept when you live away from your family is that all the arrangements for childcare and so on come down to you, and you make sure that they are sorted before you do anything else. If I can't arrange a sitter or a sleepover if I want to go out, then dh goes alone, and I stay home. That's life!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MagicMuffin on Thu 15-May-08 18:29:59
You said that your sisters friend could only babysit for one night, but your sister is going to be away for longer than that - which is probably why she wants your Mum to come. Have you put yourself in your sister's shoes? She's on her own, her ex-p has let her down at the last minute and she was probably really looking forward to a weekend away.

If your Mum has a problem with it, fair enough, she should have it out with her.

You sniping about is just comes across as sibling rivalry to me though.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Sanctuary on Thu 15-May-08 18:39:29
I agree with you magicmuffin
When my parents come to see me they come for 3-4 days to make it worth it their effort

The reason you would`nt ask your parents to take time off work is cos you only live 5 miles away and there is no reason to

Living 600 miles away your parents can`t nip round or just go for the day.
So they would have to take time off to go even to babysit for 1 nite.

Think you are being a bit unfair-Sorry
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By hackedoff247 on Thu 15-May-08 19:48:59
She is away wed, thur, fri, sat and sun. Her ex hasn't let her down - he has the kids his allocated days as per arrangement, wed, fri to mon, just wouldn't agree to have them the thurs as well. She only needs a sitter for one night. Just don't think she should have organised to extend the business trip before checking that she had someone to look after the kids.

Don't think its sibling rivarly just think its unfair but will agree to disagree grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By lazarou on Thu 15-May-08 19:59:14
Hackedoff, your mum is trying to help both of you. Now, relax......


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