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Mumsnet Discussions: Am I being unreasonable? : to be fucking pissed off with my neighbours playing loud music AGAIN? (69 messages)
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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MamaG on Fri 09-May-08 20:47:37
I j ust want to go round and punch the fucking ignorant twats.

They spent 9 months renovating before moving in - after work and at weekends there be drilling/sanding/hammering until 10 at night

Now they've moved in its fucking music

ARGH they are doing my fucking head in! DH is upstaris AGAIN watching a DVD so he doesn't have to listen to them

I've been round a few times to ask them to turn int down, and they do, but I don't want to seem like a moaning minnie! I gave them wine and a card when they moved in and again on her birthday, to show that I'm FUCKING NICE

If it continues I may just blow my top and NastyG will appear

angry

Its FUCKING RUDE AND THOUGHTLESS you CUNTS
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By DabblingInDisaster on Fri 09-May-08 20:58:23
call enviromental health.

they will log your call and tell you to log them!

onc eyou have a month or so (depressing, i KNOW) they will giv eu a password so u can ring them up and they will coem round and tlka to your neighbours, possibly confiscate or fine them

or you could take a new approcah... find your favourite, most annoying song that if the opposite of what they listen to, and get up a t5am (or 6am) and out speakers to their bedroom wall and play it on loop for abotu 2 hours.

they shoudl get the message of how thin the walls are by you doing that!

good lcuk!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Pheebe on Fri 09-May-08 21:00:31
Ask them to come round to your house so they know how loud the music is in your house. Tell them you don't want to keep moaning on but it really is intrusive for you. That way its non-confrontational and they KNOW what you're talking about.

Of course if it becomes a regular thing call EH as suggested
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 09-May-08 21:00:31
this is why we're going to live in a caravan rather than go back to the city and have to live with neighbours on all sides.

i fucking hate discourteous people, and my no. 1 gripe is people who blast music.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MamaG on Fri 09-May-08 21:04:13
I am seriously considering moving house because of it. I'm so fed up! I just don't need the fucking hassle, ignorant bastards.

I don't want to fall out with them, but they are taking teh piss
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 09-May-08 21:06:15
there is really nothing worse, MamaG, IMO.

i've been there so many times and moved so many times because of it it's not true.

it honestly makes me psycho.

that bass! and they know they live in a semi/terrace/flat.

fucking bastards.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By DabblingInDisaster on Fri 09-May-08 21:08:04
Seriously, try the 6am loud as it will go music approcah, one song on loop! worked for us!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HereComeTheGirls on Fri 09-May-08 21:09:27
YADNBU!!!

There is nothing worse than having selfish neighbours, it really can drive you nuts.

I think you should call Environmental Health, clearly just talking to them won't be enough, some people will never change unless they are forced to.

I would avoid falling out with them, as if they don't have basic consideration in the first place you don't want to risk them becoming even WORSE.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HereComeTheGirls on Fri 09-May-08 21:09:27
YADNBU!!!

There is nothing worse than having selfish neighbours, it really can drive you nuts.

I think you should call Environmental Health, clearly just talking to them won't be enough, some people will never change unless they are forced to.

I would avoid falling out with them, as if they don't have basic consideration in the first place you don't want to risk them becoming even WORSE.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HereComeTheGirls on Fri 09-May-08 21:09:53
oops, double clicking shaky wine hands blush
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Shitemum on Fri 09-May-08 21:10:56
Ours are 2 floors above us and play 'music' that sounds like rapid hammering/cement mixer. It makes my living room vibrate. It's the sort of music that very quickly makes me want to smash things and kill people. God knows what effect it has on people who are already like that to start with, like them. They also have an assortment of very large barky/howling dogs. They are utter louts. The stairway smells for ages after they have passed through it. We refer to them as 'The Morons'. Everybody else in the building has been complaining about them for ages too.

Fortunately they have just been served with an eviction notice as they haven't paid their rent for months either. grin

Pheebe's idea is good.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By helenelisabeth on Fri 09-May-08 21:10:57
This is why we soundproofed!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HereComeTheGirls on Fri 09-May-08 21:11:44
Personally I wouldn't risk playing loud music back to them in case it turned into a battle and a game for them....
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Shitemum on Fri 09-May-08 21:12:37
Or you could try DP's solution after a particularly bad night - jam their front door bell with a raisin. grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By AitchTwoCiao on Fri 09-May-08 21:13:55
i second the approach of asking them to come to yours and see what they think. we don't have good soundproofing in our building so that's what we did when our neighbours moved in, they were mortified and really lovely about it, and warn us in advance about parties etc (and we'd do the same if we had any...) it's just courtesy, and imo most people are obliging where possible. if they're not, then they're cunts and you'll have to get logging. sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By CristinaTheAstonishing on Fri 09-May-08 21:16:15
Huge, huge sympathy from me too. It's one of the worst things.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MamaG on Fri 09-May-08 21:17:16
Yes, I think the appraoch to ask them to come round and see how loud it is will work best, but I need to be calm! I think they've gone out now (door slamming grrrr)

In all other areas they're nice people, I have said to them before, wen asking them to turn it down "I don't think you realise h ow thin teh walls are "but because theya re big solid victorian terraces and we aren't that noisy, they don't realise (or don't care)

fuckers
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Shitemum on Fri 09-May-08 21:18:50
You could try voodoo. It worked for me.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 09-May-08 21:19:45
i have considered it, shitemum, but i didn't know how to work it so that negative wouldn't come back to me.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By AitchTwoCiao on Fri 09-May-08 21:20:46
actually, with our downstairs neighbours i totally acknowledged that it wasn't even being played that loud in their house while i was in there. they'd put the stereo in the old chimney breast and it was amplifying it into our house in the same way that a guitar does, iykwim?
they moved the stereo and turned down the bass, so that really helped.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MrsMuddle on Fri 09-May-08 21:37:37
Please can I have a quick hijack to ask expat something?

<< Expat, last week, on another thread that I can't find now, you said that it was common in the States to hire someone for a day to cook a week's worth of healthy meals for a family. I'm very interested in this (being the cook, not the cookee), but I'm not having much luck finding info. What should I google? Thanks. Hijack over. >>

MamaG YADNBU. Twats. Buy a Daniel O Donnell CD, and put in on repeat, place your speakers against their walls, and go out for the day.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Fri 09-May-08 21:41:09
let me have a look through my magazines.

my mom sends me Family Circle, Woman's Day and Southern Living.

i think it may have been in one of my S. Living ones, but i'll have a check.

it was an American woman married to a S. African man. they lived in SA for 13 years and had 3 kids, then moved back to the US, and she got hte idea because she was amazed how American women were expected to manage everything in the house and a FT job with no outside help.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Fri 09-May-08 21:44:07
agree bass is the worst. cause it makes your BED vibrate while you are trying to sleep.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By TurkeyLurkey on Fri 09-May-08 21:44:46
MamaG - if you are thinking of selling might not be best to complain formally to environmental health as I think you'll have to declare it if and when you sell (neighbour problems) to potential buyers . Good idea to try and do it reasonably first by getting them to come to yours and listen to what you have to listen to. Good luck.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Fri 09-May-08 21:45:18
I think you should knock on door and when they answer walk in, talk music box\stereo\whatever and hit it with hammer.

they'll get the point.

Or buy a dog and leave it out back all night.

Barking.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By vixma on Fri 09-May-08 21:51:26
I know this sounds crap, we had the same problem and phoned the police, they sent around a community police officer who did not say who phoned ( their music was offensive and many heard it) so it could not be pinned at us, even though I would not of had a problem with them telling them who contacted them. We have a young kid and embarressing when he bought friends around as the music was racist and full of swearing. Im not a prude, however sucked when his friends came round and as a childminder embarressing when employers came round. It has stopped now, thankfully.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By FloridaKbear on Fri 09-May-08 21:52:10
You've been nice and reasonable, now you have to say "you are being unreasonably noisy and I am being driven to insanity. If it continues I will no option but to smash your car up you will then discover how fucking unreasonable I can be too. I'm sure we understand each other. Good day to you".
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Custardo on Fri 09-May-08 21:56:20
you need this you do
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Custardo on Fri 09-May-08 21:56:55
or this {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUOpUqni0_g&feature=related\here}
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Shitemum on Fri 09-May-08 21:57:15
expat - I just assumed that because I am a nice person who always thinks of others and they were complete and utter bast*rds that the voodoo would not come back to me.

It wasn't very heavy, maybe didn't even count as voodoo as I had none of their hair or anything - I just drew caricatures of them and stuck pins in them while wishing them gone. Not many months later they left.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Custardo on Fri 09-May-08 21:57:19
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MamaG on Sat 10-May-08 11:27:21
hehe
am liking the suggestions, but I will be boring (later) and tackle the fuckers
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Sat 10-May-08 14:44:31
MrsMuddle - the business is called Studio Kitchen and is based in Round Rock, TX, as suburb of Austin.

It was started up by Laura and Daniel Bezden.

whatsfordinner
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Rhubarb on Sat 10-May-08 15:00:08
We had neighbours like this. We lived in a terraced house and our back gardens were all together too. During the day they had music blaring out, the only places you couldn't hear their music was the bathroom and the stairs, every other room had adjoining walls to theirs. When I had dd the noise was dreadful, I was desperate for sleep as I was feeding on demand and at one point I screamed at the wall "shut the fuck up you stupid people! I've just had a baby and I want some fucking sleep!" It didn't make any difference.

During the summer we couldn't sit in our garden and enjoy it as they'd have their music blaring out, even if they weren't in the garden!

It came to a head one day when we invited friends over for a BBQ. We asked them to turn their music down just whilst we had our BBQ. They did do, but we were half an our late with the BBQ so they turned it up again. We went round and they said they'd turned it down and gave us half an hour so what were we complaining about? They also said that if we didn't like noise then we shouldn't have chosen to live in a terraced house! I said that if they liked their bloody noise so much they should live in a detached as normal people would have consideration for their neighbours.

We moved in the end. I couldn't enjoy the house at all. The music was all day every day and they'd have parties in the evening that went on and on and on. We couldn't have the kids bedroom window open because they'd hear all the obsenities.

So I've no answer for you I'm afraid, but you do have my sympathy.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By dirtylittlepunk on Sat 10-May-08 15:05:15
i totally sympathize, my neighbours are currently blasting out scooter, (d)h is trying to drown it out by blasting fucking cascada
the kids are all in the garden happily dancing (to which noise i dont know)
i have my ipod in so i now dont care
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Sat 10-May-08 15:08:39
we also had a neighbour from hell who blasted rap music at all hours - had police called on them several times by other neighbours in the wee hours of the morning.

and the downstairs psycho who blasted and tried to sing karoke tunes every single minute he was not at work, and as he was a hospital porter he worked a bunch of odd shifts.

they made our lives a nightmare and like i said, we used a credit card to get out of there.

bass and loud music makes me want to get medieval.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By shouldbeworking on Sat 10-May-08 15:11:26
We had neighbours with an extremely noisy teenage ds who insisted on playing very loud dance/rave music. Dh once went round in his underwear at 3am to tell him to turn it down....Don't think poor lad has got over the sight of very irate dh in his underpants grin.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Rhubarb on Sat 10-May-08 15:12:54
MamaG, if you report them, it could have been any of your neighbours iyswim. Those kinds of people will only take notice of authority.

Have a word with your other neighbours and see if it pisses them off too, collectively you have more power. Then get a letter together signed by all your neighbours, that way no one person gets the blame and they get the message that actually, they are pissing off quite a few people.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Quattrocento on Sat 10-May-08 15:12:59
My sympathies

1. Talk to them. If no joy then
2. Get them prosecuted

Moving is okay if you feel you should pay through the nose for other people's selfishness
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By riven on Sat 10-May-08 15:22:18
sympathy. We've moved twice and bakrupted ourselves in the process to get away from noisy neighbours. They didn't give a shit and told us to fuck off when we asked them to turn it down. EH did bugger all, as did the police. angry
Right now there's a tit sitting outside with his car stereo blasting away. the house is vibrating and I want to kill him. He's not from round here but is parking on our road presumably while his other half does some shoppping (we're 20 yards from the High Street)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Sat 10-May-08 15:29:57
'We've moved twice and bakrupted ourselves in the process to get away from noisy neighbours. They didn't give a shit and told us to fuck off when we asked them to turn it down. EH did bugger all, as did the police.'

yep, we've been there, too.

seriously, we whacked about £2000 on a credit card to get away from asshole neighbours who were aggressive and abusive and no one really gives a toss.

i don't blame you for wanting to move, mamag.

i've lived in tents and cars and at least in such places you can get away and get some peace.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By hatrick on Sat 10-May-08 15:35:40
YANBU
Nothing grates on the nerves like having to listen to other peoples music.
Not on.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By iCod on Sat 10-May-08 15:37:05
what time do you lot let your kdis out in the mronign then? wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By evenhope on Sat 10-May-08 16:46:48
We came home from shopping at 3pm to find the house literally vibrating to the booming noise from next door. Looks like mother and father have gone out leaving 17 yo DS with girlfriend and mate sitting in the garden fing and blinding.

It is the sort of "music" that if it comes on my car radio I turn it straight off, so to have it forced on us is really unpleasant. When
I went out to put the washing out the noise actually hurt my ears, it's that loud.

Our council website says they deal with noise complaints in 3 working days angry The neighbouring council come straight out and confiscate equipment.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Rhubarb on Sat 10-May-08 16:47:37
Call the fuzz then.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MamaG on Sat 10-May-08 17:01:53
I came back from the shop today and he was in the front yard - said "about last night ..."

Basically said that they didn't feel they should have to whisper and have their music on really quietly, it was Friday night and it wasn't a party, they just had friends round for a meal - I said it was very noisy for us and perhaps they should come in and listen. I said I didn't want to fall out with them, but would appreciate some consideration - even threw in that I'm pg and couldn't cope wiht the stress (!)

He said "well, we never hear any noise from you" hmm

I said no, thats because we don't make loads of noise and don't let the kids screech the house down as we are CONSIDERATE NEIGHBOURS but I think he's a bit fucking thick to get it.

I really don't think I got anywhere. I got hte impression that he thought I was being unreasonable to moan! HE said "it was only 10 o'clock" YES AND WE'VE GOT TWO CHILDREN

wanker
wanker
WANKER

Cod- kids to out to play at 8ish but its about to get a whoooole lot earlier
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By evenhope on Sat 10-May-08 17:10:41
police not interested- council problem
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MrsMuddle on Sat 10-May-08 17:26:39
Thanks, Expat. I'll have a look, and if I get round to doing something about it, I'll come and do it for you free of charge!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By puffling on Sat 10-May-08 17:30:57
mow the lawn at 6 am
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Sat 10-May-08 17:36:47
i'd mow the lawn at 6AM, put the kids out at 8.

fuckers.

god, i fucking HATE other peoples' music and neighbours just piss me off when they're right next wall over.

thanks for the reminder.

i'll put this thread on watch and every time my lips turn blue in this freezing cold house i'll remember just how lucky we are.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By creepykid on Sat 10-May-08 17:43:43
God my neighbours have rigged their speakers in a fucking TREE in their garden, so it's actually nearer my house than theirs - and they're in their house, and we've been blasted with the worst screamy rock music I've ever heard.

I want to hurt them.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HereComeTheGirls on Sat 10-May-08 19:24:30
I would be sneaking over that wall and cutting the speaker wires!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By charliegal on Sat 10-May-08 19:42:09
oh god, sympathy. We are in a flat and have neighbours below and next to us who are inconsiderate and noisy. I will never ever understand people who play music at a volume they know disturbs others. I just dont get it.
It's the one thing that makes me want to get the fuck out of london and move somewhere quiet.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By HereComeTheGirls on Sat 10-May-08 19:47:09
There is nothing worse than inconsiderate neighbours who believe that you can do ANYTHING and make any amount of noise as long as it's before 11pm, and trot out that line as well. angry
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By evenhope on Sun 11-May-08 13:23:13
charliegal we live in the place where all the Londoners are moving because they think it's the country angry. It's anything but quiet hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By BuggedBeyondBelief on Mon 12-May-08 10:54:57
You have my sympathy too - we have noise issues with our neighbours. We are pretty quiet on the whole - except when DDs are up at 7am grinbut next door on one side (we are in a terrace)are generally very noisy. Baritone singing in the bedroom (next to ours) at 11.30 on a week night, loud arguments, generally shoutiness with back door open, mates round drinking outside (more shouting, loud laughter, smoking right under DDs bedroom)....it's very tiresome, but not something we feel we can mention without provoking offence....

[Now, I am going to apologise to the OP for hijacking this thread]

ANYWAY, back to the original topic - I am very bothered not only by their general noise, but particularly by the sound of their, ahem, lovemaking. It is VERY loud - both of em shout and shriek from start to finish. We are in a victorian terrace but the walls are thin and noise carries. They must know this. It's like a porn film soundtrack only worse. It doesn't happen often but when it does, it wakes me up, makes me feel quite sick and I'm worried about the DDs. I don't want to have the birds and the bees convo with them just yet, and especially not in that context. The other night, they came home, could obviously see my bedroom light on, and did it downstairs but I could still hear them. I can't bear it but how awkward to say "We can hear everything"!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By spokette on Mon 12-May-08 12:42:37
My friend was renting a terraced house which had been soundproof because the owner was a DJ and loved to play his music so in consideration to his neighbours, he put soundproofing in. Why can't more people be like that?sad

Similarly, my hairdresser lives in a ground floor flat and she had her ceiling lowered and soundproofed because of her inconsiderate neighbours upstairs. Now she does not hear a thing.
This website might help plus this forum has some useful tips, especially from the housing association officer and the person who owns a soundproofing business on page 2.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Mon 12-May-08 12:44:29
What it comes down to is that more and more people now have no sense of courtesy at all whatsoever.

It's annoying to say the least.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By spokette on Mon 12-May-08 12:52:48
So true, sadly.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By expatinscotland on Mon 12-May-08 12:55:27
I mean, there is really NO reason why anyone needs to blast loud music.

There just isn't.

And it's just rude when you live in an urban area with neighbours around.

But many people now just don't give a toss about anyone else but their own personal enjoyment.

It sucks.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By newgirl on Mon 12-May-08 14:51:00
our issue is not loud music (huge sympathy for op) it is an extractor fan in next door's new en suite that is right next to our bedroom. Every time they use it it wakes us up as so noisy. What would you do?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By leosdad on Mon 12-May-08 15:47:59
Trouble is environmental health do not know when to stop, one of my neighbours showed me a nasty letter from the council as a woman kept putting in complaints about her mother who lived upstairs saying the doors squeaked (her mother is well over eighty ffs and a dear sweet old lady) The woman downstairs seemed to be running a vendetta against a vunerable old lady and was putting in complaints about everything. The old lady was frightened to put on her television and the amazing thing is nothing can be done
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By branflake81 on Mon 12-May-08 16:19:40
Our neighbours play really loud dance music. I turn a blind eye (ear?) before about 11pm but after that I get really stroppy.

Sometimes they come in at around 4am and start up the stereo.

They are young, students I think and don't seem to realise that most people have to get up for work.

It's hard not to seem like an old fart but I think if you don't nip it in the bud they will just keep doing it.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By iCod on Mon 12-May-08 16:20:26
8 am is too early
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By disneystar on Mon 12-May-08 23:10:17
i spent 10 years living next door to druggies loud music cars outside revvin up all night loud music all the time
we have had to buy a house in an area where everyone had to sign a form
no loud music to be heard
no fixing cars outside property
only allowed 1 pet
no dogs barking
NO swearing outside in earshot of other ppl
the list goes on and on
but you know what it works
i have been here 1 year and its so quiet
people are nice friendly we all moved here for the same reason for a quiet life
apparantly this a quite a new idea and they are going to intoduce it to other area
50% of the properties here are now worth up to half a million pound its such a sought after area
i really undertand your frustrations it really pisses me of when neighbours just do not care for your family,s feelings makes life miserable
theres no need for it
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ClaraG on Mon 12-May-08 23:37:07
I work in Env Health and here's my advice for a few things you can do: 1. Complain to EH and follow their advice e.g. making a note of times/days of noise etc. Each council does things a bit differently but all should try to resolve it for you. They may also have a specific anti-social behaviour service. 2. Phone the police at the actual time the music is happening. They have the powers to seize the music equipment, although would probably just give a warning on first attendance. 3. Find out if your neighbours own their house. If not, you can approach the landlord and ask him to sort out the tenants. 4. See if there is a local mediation service. They can be really good at sorting out these situations amicably by making the noisy neighbours realise the impact of their behaviour. Hope this helps. Good luck.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By kerala on Tue 13-May-08 08:31:21
God my sympathy. We live in a terrace flat with people above and either side. Most of them you dont hear except for ordinary living noise which is fine. But it just takes one. The cretins on one side who play LOUD gangsta rap and hang out in the garden smoking drugs and shouting and swearing. They have tiny children who you sadly never hear, would not mind that. They are all on benefits so are in all the time. When I was at work it wasnt so bad but at home with the baby now its driving me crazy. You start to lose your reason.

I HATE it. I dread the weather getting nicer as not so aware of them in the winter. We live in london and like expat we are sick and tired of being crammed in with fuckwits. Moving to the country in 3 weeks to a cottage. Theres alot I will miss about London but the proximity to other people - I hate it.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By leosdad on Tue 13-May-08 08:44:17
I wish our environmental health noise department was as reasonable as yours ClaraG, ours seems to let the real troublemakers get away with it while spending all the time on those they can pick on and intimidate. Our neighbour is really worried about the effect the council's attitude has on her mother while not doing a thing about the extended family in three houses near us who will spend the summer with the windows wide open and all sorts of "music" coming out - in the past have said they can't do much about it.

I do wonder if some councils are scared of dealing with the major offenders.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By nappyaddict on Sun 18-May-08 00:01:59
sorry to hijack but SPOKETTE could you please email me on tobys_mummy at btinternet dot com

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