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with this whole recycling a bag scheme. I mean everytime i go to the shops ive even forgotten to bring my bags or havent got enough and end up buying more at 5p and sometimes 50p a time. This was the case for the women in front of me and behind me.And the ones i have brought have split already even the one i brought last night split when i was loading it into the car grrrrr. I cant see how this all helping the environment tbh its just another money making ploy.
How can reducing the amount of plastic bags people use not be helping the environment? It does deter people having loads of them - some people put a couple of items in each bag - its disgraceful and wasteful.
Leave your bags in your car so you don't forget them and even better - use cloth ones. If the good quality supermarket ones break they replace them.
The sooner people realise it is about the environment the better.
Hopefully, you'll soon learn to have enough in your car. After a while it's as instinctive as 'get your bags, lock the car, get a trolley' etc. All my cloth ones were freebies from the council and they don't rip and are very good for putting 2/3 bottles of wine in..!
the co op cloth one is really nice, quite big too and you can fit it in a tiny handbag. it's getting used to taking them with you when you shop. i suppose we'll all gt used to it eventually!
You are being smug Bum diddly! Would be impossible for me to do a weekly shop on public transport and lives miles away from supermarkets. You are very good though!
Octo - if you are that enviromently friendly you would find a way.
Most supermarkets offer a discount if you get a delivery on a certain day. Sainsbury take back your old bags when they deliver your next bag of shopping
Ignorant? I never said I knew you circumstances, it's just a bit rich boasting about your green credentials then saying you have a car!!
WowOoo - Smug - shouldn't really have said that..just can't actually afford a car!!!
If you are going to be shopping for things, so you will need something to carry said shopping in- I think it pretty logical.
I use cloth bags and the ones from sainsburys that fold flat. I always have a couple of bags in the pram and we keep some in the car, too. Over many years we have a collection of cloth, hemp,and canvas bags that carry a lot more stuff and last a very long time.
What happened to the good old days when we used the old supermarket boxes thus recycling at no extra cost. Yes they have the green light to make a mint, but then so do the Gov by taxing petrol, without offering any alternatives on one hand, and centralising, closing rural post offices, schools and businesses and forcing people into their cars on the other hand..
Yes but they still have to drive here - which was my point. You have to spend £70 to get a delivery discount here.
I wasn't boasting about my green credentials if you read my posts. I was stating that it was unreasonable that the OP should think that reducing the use of plastic bags doesn't help the environment - which is quite ignorant.
The thick, green canvas ones from Waitrose don't look like anything could split them, ever! I just leave them as DD's feet then see them as I get her out the car. The cool bag one for fresh food is fab! I still have about 8 of them though plus kids so no way could I go without a car.
I'm a bit at these comments of "you can't be green if you own a car"......some people NEED a car.
In many places public transport just isn't there, disabilities, not to mention some people whose jobs REQUIRE a car (I suppose you could argue that if they cared that much they should find a job that didn't need a car....)......
Hmm, we use old carrier bags instead of bin liners though (for non-recyclable rubbish, obviously, which we produce very little of). If I have to pay for carrier bags I'll use cloth ones, but just end up buying bin bags instead
Yes but charging for the carrier isn't really about the environment is it? It's about making money.. the bags still go out there..the supermarket just have a great chance to make more money selling bags either way they are just capitalising at your cost.
Oh it's bullshit to say why bother recycling if you drive/fly on holiday etc!
That's like saying, 'well if you cannot be wholly virtuous, kind and good the entire time then you shouldn't bother trying to be a decent person, cause that's just halfhearted. Be an evil cow instead!
YABU, keep decent cloth or similar bags in the car/bottom of pushchair or wherever and you will then have non-split bags you don't have to pay for.
It is a good way to help the environment to reduce carrier bag use by charging for them, but also, what's wrong with supermarkets 'raking it in'? They are there to make a profit, not for the general public good. Lots of them raise thousands for charities as well.
No the OP did and you said it wasn't unreasonable.
The get real comment has already been explained - and everyone has the choice about what they do to help the environment but I am not about to justify anything to you.
Enjoy feeling smug. I need to go and pick up my kids in my car.
we use cloth bags but then I rarely go to a supermarket. Get veg box and shop on the High street. And we got a car 2 months ago as dd is in a wheelchair and none of the buses are wheelchair accessible which is bloody annoying.
Well its only for myself and 5yo dd, and we take a big rucksack as well. The only supermarket in the town we live in is Waitrose, which I can't afford to do a weekly shop in. So we go to the Lidl 2 miles away, luckily its a nice walk along the canal
Octo, I now use disposables. all 4 kids were in terries but when number 4 reached 3, after years of washing terries I thought sod it. She's now 4 and we get free disposables off the Govt. She'll be in nappies all her life but I'm buggered if I'm washing nappies until i die. I was very eco until dd came along.
I am with Riven, have a 7 year old with disabilities who uses nappies. Disposables. We try to 'do what we can' so have an allotment as an off-set! (and because children like getting muddy and planting stuff). And lots of recycling and walking and buses.
YANBU. I can't help but think supermarkets are using the "go green" issue as a ploy to make money. I think the solution would be to abolish ALL plastic bags. That way the supermarkets can't charge for them and people would just have to start remembering to bring there own.
I think people only forget there bags because there are plastics ones to use when you forget. If there was no back up, you would have to remember. You would soon start remembering your bags if you had to pay 50p per re-usable bag each time!
If people want to write to their MP's and ask that as an alternative to disposables, poeple with disabled children have free access to nappy laundering services that would be great. I've been on at our council about this and they say there 'isn't a demand'. Yes there is. Me.
I'm all for banning supermarket carrier bags. Those things use 60 million barrels of oil a year in the UK alone (according to the Ecologist). Thats a lot of oil on something that is used for 10 minutes and then thrown out. Sure we'd still need to buy bin bags and nappy sacks etc but it would be a purchase as needed rather than mindlessly pulling carrier bags off the stack for the shopping. In the olden days people managed without plastic carrier bags. Why are we all wusses now? (include many poeple being unable to walk half a mile and needing a 2 ton vehicle to transport a pint of milk)
I refused to pay for a bag today as the spotty yoof on the till told me I should be using my bag for life that was given out free at M&S. I don't have one, so suggested he gave me one to start me off and he said I can't as the offer finished on monday.This is the same spotty yoof who until last week used to pack only one or two items in every bag!
I made him wheel my trolley to my car and unload my shopping into the boot of the car, fortunately it was mostly wine. he didn't have much choice as I refused to pay for the bags, and he had rung up all the items. On the way to the car I checked my receipt and he had overcharged me for several items, so he had to go and get me the difference back.
i refused to return to the store as he wanted me to and I siad if he didn't I'd report him, so he scuttled off.
I would like to see the flat pack foldable boxes they use in french hypermarkets, because I hate the smell of the plastic bags.
I have 2 fold up zip up carrier bags in my handbag. When I use them I unpack then and re fold them immediately so I am never without them. They cost $1. I usually have my cloth bags with me anyway - those 2 are just for emergencies. It isn't difficult to shove one in the bottom of your bag You could have an onya bag on your keys ffs., It's just getting into the mindset. My boot is also full of bags. If I have to leave my stuff in the trolley and nip out for my cloth carriers then so be it.
Alibubbles - I actually think that was quite rude. The 'spotty yoof' on the till is not the one who made the policy and he has no power to change it.
I'd be horrified to see someone insist that a till assistant wheeled the trolley to the car - you'd have had to wheel it anyway surely, even if the shopping was in bags?
If you don't reuse bags in these stores there is a price to pay - either financially or in terms of inconvenience, ie wheeling your trolley to the car. Its not the fault of the till assistant that you didn't bring any bags!
my mum never used any bags (iirc) she put everything into a wheeler then had a few of those shiny shopper bags, they had baked bean logos on them i think.
i have a granny style shopping trolley, bright orange it is. i believe they're very in vogue these days.
use bags for life but do still get a few carrier bags as i use them as binbags, and i use much less of those than before as i recycle and have a compost bin.
Riven, surely the fact that there isn't such a high demand should make it easier for them to financially support such a scheme?
I would speak to your MP about it. The cost must be nominal to local government but what a difference to the families concerned. After all, if someone has a condition that's considered chronic ie long term but not life threatening then they get free prescriptions. Mind you, I'm always shocked that diabetics need to pay for their own needles!
As for the other point, there is just no way I could walk to the supermarket. At the till I can hardly fit all the bags into the trolley so if I walked, (it's about 3miles)I'd need to do about four trips! Actually more as I could only manage one bag at a time whilst I held onto to very willfull toddlers.
It's standard practice in the US for them to take your cart to the car and pack your boot. Took me a while to get used to that. They also always pack your bags badly. I still have to beg them to use mine and not put things in plastic 1st and also to fill the bags up. It's standard practice to double bag and then put 2 items in <thud>. The also do not do things like pack all the frozen things in one bag. Most bag packers are spotty yoof who do not do food shopping. They should be trained!
charging for the bags is to make people aware of the waste. when the bags were free people would just take them without thinking. Hopefully having to pay for them might make some people remember to take their reusable ones with them. I just keep some cloth ones in the car. If I forget then sometimes I just pack stuff into the trolley and put it straight into the car and only get bags for the odd thing that I don't want on the car boot floor.
while people like you pick and choose what is convenient to you 
