Does anyone have a site that more military-like than the flylady one?
I need to do some serious cleaning, routine and I need to do it soon, not in little steps each day.

Or do I just gut a room each day, clean it and put it back? But then I can't do that each week

Anyone have any ideas?

Hmm, would be interested if anyone comes up with any ideas. Know what you mean about flylady being too little at a time (though the e-mails sometimes make me get off my backside). The goal I aspire to starts pretty much as you suggest - gut a room at a time, then ongoing do one or 2 rooms a day (assuming you have time each day, or whatever suits) What I intend to do is:

Step 1 - big clean - each room, pull all "stuff" into centre, clean/dust/hoover - put things back, and have a box for things that don't belong in that room. Then have coffee, and empty the box putting things where they do belong. Next day, next room etc

Step 2 - ongoing - have a daily routine like Flylady eg make beds every morning, wash up after breakfast, empty wastepaper baskets, sort and action post as soon as it arrives. Evening, wash up and leave kitchen surfaces clear, check rooms are tidy.

Step 3 - have a day of the week assigned to each room/type of room - kitchen, bathroom(s), bedroom, kids' rooms, garden. (and any others you may have eg office, playroom)

But it's all very well to think about it, it's just doing it that's the hard bit (I'm using 4 month old baby as excuse - not sure what excuse was before...)

Oh, and declutter before you can realistically keep on top of tidiness! I'm trying v hard to be more ruthless about what is actually necessary.

Could you get professional cleaners in once to do a major once over of everything and then just try and keep on top of it from there? Have never done this myself so don't know what it would cost.

First though, you'd need to tidy. I think it's good to go through room by room with a huge bin bag and throw away everything you really don't need/use. Be ruthless. Could you do that first? One room a day, say clean the windows and skirting boards/doors and throw out everything you can. Next day room number two

I should do this myself in fact.

oh great brains. Love the way the word "ruthless" sprang to mind for both of us.

Should practice what I preach though - next week perhaps

book How about this book? (Cheaper at bookpeople.co.uk at the mo)

ruthless, yes agree ruthless approach is required.

I'm considering the deep cleaners tbh, but it can't hurt to chuck stuff out either

thanks x