Will never buy again up what should we all be wearing ? . Orange pancake and blue eyshadow or maybe as a mum in their eyes we should not be wearing make up at all.... SO I take it everybody who works for Mac has no children ?????
lol harpo i dont liek to look wasehd out but also like to avoid the ooompa loompa look i do a saint tropex once a week or so - or maybe moreon my face and decollete
my dd (3) once plastered herself with a very indelible Mac tranny red lipstick. That took some serrious scrubbing to get off. There are probably still remnants in her pores and always will be.
love their mineralize powder but does anyone else think their lipstick smells WEIRD - sort of playdoughy?
and seeing as I have unexpectedly found myself on a make up thread, can anyone give me some tips about tinted moisturizer (which I have just discovered, along with skinny jeans, I am fashion backward). Had a Clarins sample but it was verrrry drying and scarily orange. then it calmed down a bit and now am quite liking this naturally tanned look. How do you put it on and what's the best one?
ps if Mac pr are watching I am a very famous top model
Thank goodness for that my dp bought me a make over (£25) and you wouldn't belive what make up he thought that bought, let alone the brushes (I did say I topped up a bit!!)
[holds on to her peacock blue liquid liner for dear life] i'm not giving it back i tell you, feminist credentials be damned, i'm going to be wearing this all summer you hear me?
yeah but although it was very annoying at the time, i doubt its the company's stance, just that of a pr who didnt quite think through what she was saying..
so as cod says, no boycott required, we'll just love them all the more for not loving us..
I take it back I just can't belive they would say something like that. I cannot boycott as I just love it, it was my first real make up and I cannot quit. iCod.....apologies I've been reading another board, tut tut!!
not a load of rubbish I'm afraid. I made the call to MAC for cod, to round up samples for forthcoming codpieces. This is how the conversation went, more or less verbatim.
I pitch the MAC PR (inhouse) with the basic info as to what mumsnet is and what cod is doing with her column.
Immediately she says they wouldn't be interested because MAC are very fashion focused.
Rather put out at the implication that mums couldn't be classed as fashion focused I ask "Would you not like to see the demographics for the site?"
She says, "no, a parenting site wouldn't really be our sort of market."
"So you're not interested in selling to mums?" I say (I used this exact phrase, sure that she was going to realise any second what a ridiculous position she was taking)
she says "No, no we're not"
SO there you have it. MAC - fashion focused therefore not interested in selling to mums according to their PR.
I thought about phoning her back and explaining that being a mum didnt mean you couldn't be fashionable, and that actually quite a lot of women were, in fact, mums so who did they think was buying their stuff if not mums? And more along these lines.
But then I realised that life is way too short to argue with snippy PRs, and moaned at Cod about it instead. Who posted it on here, and the rest is history as you see. So, no sour lollipops, no backsides talking, just one PR whose brain wasn't quite in gear..
I just think iCod is talking out of her backside, no pr company would say 'we don't want to sell to mums'. Maybe they said the members of Mumsnet are not our target market or that Mumsnet is not the right place for them to advertise, but to sell they don't want to sell to women on the basis that they have given birth I find really unbelievable.
iCod, what a load of rubbish. MAC massively advertise to 'Moms' over the Mother's day period in the USA and here. Where do you think these things up? Besides the Mother's day why would anyone advertise to a 'mum' specifically they're hardly selling nipple cream, I want to be treated as a woman irrespective of whether I've had a child or not. Most of your posts seem to come from a place where sour lollipops grow on trees.
Yes but thats the point. You dont want to be marketed to as a Mum, you want to be marketed to as a cool, fashionable woman and not ignored because you are also a mum, iyswim.
god no i wouldnt were make up for mums-it makes me think mumsy, sensible shoes, no need for that sort of thing mentality it is the slippy slope to Big Pants and american tan tights
i paln to grow old disgracefully with more slap than pat butcher more hair colur than dale winton
I agree with doggies. Stuff that's marketed towards mothers would be, well, mumsy and matronly and bosomy. And that's hardly asprirational for any woman is it? Surely we all want to be rock chicks/sex goddesses/supermodels? Non?
omg, have used mac for ages but have to confess a changing allegience to other friendlier counters where I don't have to fight throught 50 x 12 year olds having eye shadow over-applied in a 'makeover' Well , i spend shed loads of money on beauty products and do have an addiction to mac lipstick twig colour and their eye shadows. hhhrumph shall have to spend ooodles of cash at Laura Mercier and By Terry in SpaceNK which is very relaxing
They want to market to people like Amy Winehouse who use at least 10 eyeliners and a day. But keep using them ladies as MAC do give lots of money to AIDS charities.
How odd. I have to say my local MAC is always a delight to shop in. I'm obviously not, erm, a twenty-something and they're always friendly. Perhaps they just crease up when I've left the shop.
COD quick hijack! Are you still looking for testers? I don't have CAT but any chance you could email me instead pretty please bumperlicious . mn @ hotmail . co .uk. Thank you!
I find all this "oh we only target this particular section of the market" stuff really funny, cos you know most of the name brands are owned by a couple of companies, estee lauder and l'oreal. Even ones you think of as being independent, like Body Shop or Kiehls.
We drop the words 'Mac' into every thread we can. Then Cod....you contact them again suggesting they do a search under 'Mac' and they will see that really, they need us
we will send them love letters and swoon aroudn hopelessly after them, and make them compilation tapes on a TDK 90 with a lot of hidden mesages in them.
How dare they! I was going to order some make-up on the basis of recommendations here. Won't get mac now. Harrumph. Tis a silly approach for them to have. Because while almost everyone on mumsnet is a mother, the site covers a huge range of ages, incomes, occupations. Including some (not me) fashion forwarders.
I think MN should allow you to go through your (ahem) Cod Pieces and delete any recommendations that we foolishly made before we realised we were no tworthy.
Isn't that known as shooting yourselves in the foot? Surely, given the price of their product range, they're trying to appeal to an adult buyer, so if having a baby rules you out then I guess most buyers would have to drop Mac by an average age of 27 or so. Bananas given most women will continue to buy cosmetics for the remainder of their life.
OK cod, your mission is now to find the best supplier of maternal cosmetics!
And I specifically went to the MAC counter today (despite hideous rave music and extremely yoof counter personnel who ignored me for 5 mins until I went 'ahem') because of mn recommendations.
I'll have to apply my new eye shadow with a harrumph fuckers type attitude.
more hair colur than dale winton 
