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DH back from France today and have managed to relax a bit more this week. Am feeling loads calmer and back ache even a bit better.
Long may it last (and the good weather).
Can't find what it is I want to eat at all at the moment. Hope bump has had a wriggle now Kaz. Mine doesn't seem to react when I manhandle it, only when I lie down.
Am a bit of a zombie at the mo' as DD has had me up every night for the past week. She keeps awakening between 2am-3am and won't settle for ages. Her teeth are really bothering her so I am considering giving her half a bottle of clapol tonight to knock her out! Either that or a wee nip
Went to the baby show yesterday - was nealry crying, had to get DH to drop me off near the door and was practically running in - so desperate for the loo! LO was bouncing off my bladder every bump we went over and I start getting a runny tum form now until when baby comes - think it must be all the pressure down there.
Anyway had agreat day and got all I wanted:
A Phil and Ted in apple green - we got the double kit free and free delivery and it was on special too.
A lime green one shoulder with rings sling.
Tots bots bamboozles (nippa kind) for £4.50 each - bargain! 2 wraps and a free bag with them.
A cloth chair seat - you can take it out with you and it holds baby on to any type of seat - so no need for highchair.
A medela electric breast pump special price and free breast pads.
Another hotmilk bra.
A bouncy zebra for DD for the playroom and a monkey clock for the playroom - the tail swings. A giant monkey hand puppet with magnetic paws so you can hang it up - for the playroom too - am still working on the safari theme mural.
The only few bits I'd like to get now are some new bottle teats/dummies/ some cross over vests and some nightgowns.
So feeling like I have achieved something
DH is finishing the greenhouse today too so will be able to get grwoing soon.
I have put on loads of weight the past few weeks now am up to 14 4lb!! I was 14 10lb with DD so I really don't want to put much more on.
My Mum has to go back for an angiogram - she has scar tissue on her heart so must have had a small heart attack sometime in the past. She has to go on high cholesterol tablets and ace inhibitors now too. Apparenlty she has something wrong with 1 of her left ventricular valves. I looked it up and I think she will need surgery so I am a bit overwhlemed with it all at the moment. She is only 55. I love my Mum and am really lucky to be close to both my parents and be loved and supported by them so well. They live quite far away and I haven't lived with them since I was 14 but they have always been there for us. That's the worst thing about getting older - you lose a lot of people on the way .
DISNEY - am very to hear you are going to GP Tuesday - me too! Mine is keeping a close eye on me as I am on anti-ds.
KAZ - sounds crap but fingers crossed you will be fine. And sending you house selling vines
Hope everyone else is okay ansd welocme CALIC.
Must go and try to do some more work on this infernal essay as DD is lseeping at last - Rumpel goes off to try to find her brain and focus her eyes.............
Ooooh it looks like I found this site a bit late - the baby show sounds great - do it all in one go! I am suffering Symphis Pubis disorder so trawling shops is almost beyond me! Thank goodness for online shopping!
I am sure when I logged on I came across a link to all of the abbrevations but now I just do not seem able to locate it. I want to be able to type DD2 DD and DH but have no idea what they mean! Can anyone recall where it is? Sorry my brain is so bad it is almost disabling me! It was not so bad last time... but then neither was the stretching, the aches, the tiredness and complete and utter destruction of my body bits!
hi everyone dp has taken the kids out leaving me a little time to do some paperwork .
Kaz sounds like the GTT result should be fine but I can see it's annoying to have to go through it. Hope you've had some movements. Similarly to EEC I only get wriggles when I'm fairly stationary.
Min glad your ds is walking now, hope it makes everything easier for you.
hello CilC yes I am suddenly feeling very pregnant but I guess this is the stage when the baby grows an awful lot each week.
Rumpel glad you got what you wanted from the Baby Show. I must get myself another bra as I'm getting fed up with my current ones. But I'll probably go for Bravado this time as my sis has promised to get me a hotmilk one after ds3 is born. And I'll probably need all the help I can get to feel sexy and attractive by then.
Had a great meeting with the herbalist yesterday and I think the tincture and lotion are already making a difference to my itchy skin. I'm getting through the lotion quite quickly though so might have to ask her to supply some more.
Right, my paperwork includes printing off the contract for my doula and I wouldn't want to lose her as she is lovely. I'm glad I looked around for another one now.
Yippeeeee 11 wks and counting. Have'nt been on this is a few days, hope you all are doing ok... Its raining here and its cold o how i would love to curl up beside the fire and watch TV, not going to happen with my two LO's roll on bed time.
Have a wedding at the wkend and have nothing to wear what so ever!!!! SO have to go out and buy an outfit that i will only wear once
Sorry ended up going in and being strapped to a monitor. The little horror is fine just playing possum They are still very quiet but the trace was fine and have had a few movements since.
Minipink - thanks for doing new thread didn't mean to be horrid about no Due in July thing feel bad now
kaz - thats great news about the trace, DD3 did that to me yesterday the little minx no movement for ages and just after I had read that Coronation Street storyline about Maria's baby dying at 30 weeks and her not feeling movement, talk about being paranoid. I'm sure DD3 was doing it on purpose.
EEC - welcome back and take it easy this week
Rumpel - am so at your shopping list Not that I need much but still must have been great fun buying all of that. So sorry to hear about your Mum being poorly as well.
CliC - hello and welcome unfortunately there are quite a few of us on here suffering from SPD, horrid nasty thing that it is.
Big hello to everyone else as well
Still feeling terrible today, think I either have toothache or it may be the cold as my whole jaw hurts. I just feel so bunged up and awful, wish it go soon. On a brighter note what a lovely day, went to the garden centre spent loads on plants and spent the afternoon planting them all with the "help" of my little helpers. You should have seen how dirty they were afterwards, DP is upstairs bathing them as we speak.
Rumpel - meant to say i completely understand about being overwhelmed with your mum ill. My dad had had a serious heart condition for past 10 years, told at time he wouldn't survive past 5 - he is a stubborn bugger i tell ya! He is doing well at moment but had a period last year where he was very very ill and was assessed for a heart transplant (too well apparently). If you need to chat about it i understand and would be happy to listen.
found you all on our new thread Just read the other one to catch up with everything.
been away visiting friends with thier 2 girls this weekend. Was great seeing them but i must say im worn out now! Didnt really DO anything as such apart from chilling in the garden enjoying the sunshine watching the girls on the bouncy castle. - I really wanted a go!!
DH bought the new Wii fit board on friday so took to our friends with us and been trying it out. All been having such a good laugh with it. I could only join in alittle bit as my centre of balance is way out now and i was all over the place! Gave everyone a good laugh. Worryingly though the best at most of the games was a 5yr old!
Kaz- glad babys ok and was just being a sleepyhead
SK- I too heard about that storyline on corrie and every time baby has a quiet afternoon or something its there in the back of my mind.
Rumpel- Glad you enjoyed your shopping trip. Sounds like you did well.
Clic- Welcome aboard!
Im now 29 weeks! Were on earth has the time gone!- Anyone else think its gone really quickly lately?
Rumple so of all that shopping! I love the Baby show and am going to the birmingham one in 2 weeks, I don't need anything, but love having a good nose, and all those baby things under one roof! Heaven! And I'm sorry to hear about your mum, it must be horrid
minipink Thanks for doing the new thread!
kaz I hate it when this monkey has quiet moments, my BF lost her baby at 39 weeks 6 weeks ago and I get REALLY paranoid, but luckily a good sharp poke in the belly usually wakes the little bugger up!
Pigley Weather was lovely wasn't it, glad you had a nice weekend away.
Disney Good luck at the doc's on Tuesday, I hope he makes you feel better.
Clic Hello and welcome...
I hope I've not forgoten anyone. If so I'm sorry!
I've been to a christening today and I am now the proud owner(!!!) of a godson. Was really nice and an honour! I've also bitten the bullet and ordered Davina Mccall's Pre and Post Natal Exercise DVD, So I hope to find some time to do that soon, I'm hoping to start my Maternity leave Bank Holiday Week, so it's not long now! Just depends on when the Jobcentre people get round to paying my Mat Allowance (as I am self-employed)
Also, so exciting... My new laptop has arrived!!!! It's ace. I can now access MN anywhere in the house (and garden!!!) BRILLIANT
I'm going to make a start at moving lists over now, wish me luck!
2 or 3 nighties or PJs Sanitary pads (heavy duty about 2 packs) Knickers (disposable, old or tesco value!) Toileties - shampoo, soap, etc Hairbrush breast pads Lasinoh cream (start slapping it on as soon as you are feeding to prevent sore nips) Pampers bed mats (good for underneath you just after the birth saves you having to ask the MWs to change the sheets) Disposable wipes for cleaning the toilet money for phone etc. Clothes to go home in (comfy, stretchy ones - do not pack your size 8 skinny jeans unless you are Posh Spice) Make-up to perk yourself up for visitors
For baby
nappies, nappy sacks cotton wool or wipes (cotton wool is useless at getting meconium off) hat (even in July) pair of scratch mitts vests and babygros (number depending on how long you plan to stay - I would say at least 3 of each) cute outfit to go home in Muslins
Birthing bag
TENS Machine - unless you are already wearing it. Birthing Ball - great for getting those contractions going again incase they ease off once you get to the hospital. Old nightie / t shirt to give birth in Pair of socks - believe it or not your feet can get really cold! Disposable / old / cheap knickers and a couple of sanitary pads for afterwards 1 x nappy, vest and babygro & vaseline - smear it over baby's bottom before putting first nappy on. Makes the meconium very easy to get off without making baby sore. Camera! Some CDs so you can have whatever music you like playing in the background to help you relax. A couple of flannels for DH to 'mop your brow' (makes him feel useful!) 2 towels (red or navy) Some snacks to keep your energy up. I've been told those Lucozade glucose tablets are good. Straws - rather than trying to sip from a cup and spilling water, much easier to sip through a straw whilst DH holds the cup. List of people DH needs to phone to announce the news phonenumbers Maternity notes and birthplan Socks, feet get cold during labour
1. It is quite common for baby girls to have a mini-period a few days after they are born. shock It is a withdrawal bleed from the exposure to all the hormones in the womb. (My friend told me this when she had a DD, otherwise I would have been frantic when it happened to my DD) RUMPEL
2. When your milk comes in (about 3 days after birth) they will be enormous, hot and rock hard. This extreme discomfort coincides with a happy hormone drop so don't be surprised if you spend the day sobbing. You'll feel better soon! ISAIDNO
3. Do not buy disposable paper knickers and maternity sanitary pads for after the birth, they are really uncomfortable. Instead buy some really cheap supermarket pants and Always nighttime pads. You can then throw away the cheap pants. sweetkitty
4 There are very few musts in either pregnancy or child rearing. Treat all childcare and pregnancy advice like a pick and mix counter take what works for you and ignore what does not. KAZ
5. The Lochia starts immediately after birth for which you require some form of sanitary pads. You may continue to experience pains similar to period pains for a couple of days after and possible pass a largish clot. This happened to me (the size of a small side plate) and I panicked thinking it was an undeveloped twin. After speaking to my midwife this is quite common (she'd had one the size of a dinner plate - I don't mean to alarm anyone!) but I had absolutely no idea what was happening and felt extremely scared until I'd received clarification. Best to save the evidence and show to MW or HV. Libraladyxx
6. Try and stay in hospital as long as possible, esp. until Milk comes in and your Baby blues start! As once you get home, thats it!!!! Also, try and see as many visitors in the hospital as possible, so you don't have to entertain them yourself at home! Jodie x
7. Do not wear expensive new nightwear or slippers when you are in hospital. The first time you stand up after giving birth, you will 'flood' a bit as the lochia will have pooled while you are lying down. And don't be embarrassed about it - the mws aren't! Poledra
8 Leading on form the last one you often can often flood when breastfeeding/expressing the number of poor Mums in tears I have had to borrow pads for from the wards white trousers are often not a good fashion look when you do
9. Really no point worrying in advance about embarrassing indignities during labour - you honestly will not notice or care what you do or how you behave when the day comes. Also, wear something during labour that you are happy to throw away. You may not feel like wearing it afterwards, even when it's washed.
10. If you get the chance before the baby is born (and your nesting takes full hold) cook loads of beef or quorn mince/onions/tomatoes and freeze it in take away tubs. When your new arrival appears all you've dp has got to do is boil some rice or pasta, defrost mixture and add mixed herbs or chilli beans for a really quick and relatively nutritious meal. You honestly will not want to cook.- Minkus
11. Buy Toni and Guy's dry shampoo from Boots or Batiste's version (much cheaper but not quite as good) from Superdrug. On those days post birth when your hair really needs washing but you are exhausted, and you need to leave the house but are worried that folks will think you've lost it because of the oil slick in your hair- these products are amazing and will make your hair totally presentable.- Minkus
12. I really think you can't cuddle them too much. Don't let anyone make you feel guilty about wanting to pick your baby up all the time if thats what makes you both happy.- Minkus
13. If you have stithes down below or are even just feeling a bit bruised, get some super strength Arnica, also for at least a fortnight after giving birth have a bath every day with lavender oil in it. It's great for healing and preventing infection plus the lavender is really soothing. It's important to get even half an hour me time (especially if you have other DC). SWEETKITTY
14. Be prepared to spend the first few weeks sitting feeding your baby a lot (if BFing), have phone, drink, snacks to hand. I am also planning on renting some good films and DVD box sets for cluster feeding in the evenings. (I have lovely memories of feeding DD2 in bed with a good movie on). sweetkitty
15. Don't get worried if your baby doesn't poo every day, or even every other day, just be warned of the smelly explosion when it does happen. JODIE x
16. On the subject of poo (mm lovely) the first few poo's are akin to tar (very, very thick and sticky!), so try putting vasaline on babies bottom at each nappy change to make it easier to scrape off! JODIE x
17. If you don't manage breastfeeding or go onto bottles later on, make sure you invest in an avent milk holder. Fill your bottles with water as normal and take out and place the measured amount of milk in as and when required. Saves worrying about milk 'going off' when out for a day (especially in the hot weather). Water alone in a bottle won't go off. I found this was the best thing I bought. Libralady.
18. You’ll be AMAZED at how swollen your undercarriage is – no-one tells you that. I thought it was my stitches but it was my bits It is okay though, sounds worse than it is.
19. Make sure you take loads of fruit (maybe even lactulose into hospital with you in case you are in for a few days and have drugs in labour). My DH went home with mine and the hospital had NO fruit/veg/salad and served up horrid salty food. Ended up with horrific constipation and had to get the Dr out a few days after birth
20. Following on from last point - fruit somoothies seemed to work well for me in first couple of days - you really want the first post-birth poo to be as easy as possible!!
21. Dare I say it...breastfeeding might well hurt to start with but this won't last forever and it is so worth it!
22. OK another one with TMI - especially if you push for a while, you may well have bad piles - do ask the midwives for treatment, not worth being embarressed! Also second lavender in bath - pref with epsom salts - brill for healing bits and bottom!
23. I carried a spare top with me for first few weeks as boobs would leak hugely at the most unexpected moments - particularly in Tesco for some reason... SHORTSHAFE
24. Hormones do strange things to you - dd was born in October and I found my internal thermostat was haywire - i perspired massively all of the time - to the point that my hair was wet (yuck yuck yuck) until she was about 2 weeks old. SHORTSHAFE
25. Babies can fire poo explosive distances - IME around 4ft! be prepared and buy carpet shampoo/carpet stain remover before the birth! SHORTSHAFE
26. Sometimes it is painful to pee after delivery jug of warm water containing few drops of lavender oil poured over your bits while trying to pee can help. If it does not it sounds disgusting but pee in the bath. KAZ
27. After an hour and twenty minutes, if still attached, your baby is not feeding anymore, s/he has fallen asleep! 40mins would be my maximum, and the sooner both of you can learn to feed lying down in bed, soooo much the better for night feeds and your sanity. Min912
28. If you feel hot&cold and a bit 'under the weather' plus perhaps one breast is a bit sore, it's not just post-birth knackeredness, you quite probably have mastitis. Don't panic, feed or pump on the affected side (I found pumping after a feed reduced the pressure), use a hot flanel, if it doesn't get better see the doctor. Min912 28a mastitis normally effects 1/4 of a breast If practical (because it depends what 1/4 it is) try and feed baby so their bottom jaw is on that 1/4 this can help move the blockage which is usually the initial cause. As long as there are no medical reasons why you should not take most midwives recommend Ibuprofen as pain relief for this. Kaz
29. At some point you will very probably find yourself thrusting the baby at your DH/DP the minute they come in the door and running off to throw yourself on the bed in tears because you've had a mare of a day. This does NOT make you a bad mum, it means you are human. Tomorrow will be better, honest. Min912
Hello all Have missed weeks on here I think - manic trying to finish everything off at work as it's my offical last day Thurs! Though will still be popping back in through May. So much paperwork and filing - at least I'm getting cover for 2/3 of my job (nothing last time!) What a lovely weekend in the sun! I have been awful the last few weeks with pelvic pain - midwife got me to the physio for SPD, turns out the main prob is I have sprained my sacro-iliac joint!! Which, if like me you hadn't come across before, is the joint at the bottom and middle of the pelvis, underneath the tailbone - the bones right between your legs. So I've been getting horrendous pain kind of underneath my buttocks and even down my thighs!It's because of overcompensating for where my pelvis and hips have moved and become misaligned. The physio was helpful - have some exercises to do, lots of advice on managing it - don't walk, don't lift, how to move, rest lots - and have ordered a support belt - NHS doesn't supply them round here! DD1 is learning to climb in and out of highchair, bath, car etc. It is making a difference, and I even managed to pot up some tomatoes and geraniums today so not feeling quite as bad. Sorry, long post all about my pelvis! Hope everyone else still suffering pain, sickness etc is not too bad, and hope the nice weather comes back soon - makes things a bit better! Was quite pleased on Sat - I don't have a changing bag anymore and was thinking of buying a new, big one as I'll need something big enough for two, but they are soo expensive. Also I have some really nice 'normal' bags that I use at the mo. So I found a really big Cath Kidston wash bag, which fits enough nappies etc for DD and new baby, plus bits and bobs, muslins, newborn change of clothes - all the extra bits you end up needing for a newborn. I can then put this 'kit' in whatever bag I am using at the time, together with my own stuff which is all in a really big wallet (also Cath Kidston - how sad am I!!)- and transfer it between bags as necessary! Ok - apologies for enormous post - will go now!xxx
Wow, you lot can talk, evenutally found you on this new thread.
Off to see MW this afternoon to get my certificate to fly. Hopefully this time next week I'll be lying on a beach somewhere with a good book whist DH looks after (runs around) after DS. Can't wait.
Catch you later as have got to be in the office by 7am this morning.
Please try not to talk too much, some evenings it takes me over an hour to catch up on what's been happening during the day. Then I'm too tired to post as it's time for bed - ha ha. Not allowed to access non-essential websites at work so unfortunately that includes MN. The b***ds!
ok ladies i have a question for you im sure so some one knows what this is
if i walk to far i have a terrible pressure down below like its all going to fall out
also in the night i have to have apillow inbetween my legs as it feels so bruised down there like i have been kicked and bruised also its in the top of my legs just a very heavy painful feeling when i walk
does anyone else suffer at night? apart from that all is ok.
Disneystar - you could be describing me, I too have the feel like it's all going to fall out feeling and the one about feeling like you have been kicked especially at night. Sounds like good oldfashioned Pelvic Girdle Pain to me (SPD) have a word with your MW see if they can refer you to a maternity physio.
libralady - don't you know MN is an essential website, do you know which beach you are going to be on next week?
purplejennyrose - sorry you are suffering too, it's amazing that so many of us are having real problems with SPD/PGP/SI pain. I think it's one of these things that you are just supposed to suffer from in pregnancy and not much gets done about it IYSWIM
Jodie - thanks for copying everything across
Won't bore everyone with my on going woes still feeling a bit though. Looks like it is going to be anice day though.
disneystar sounds like symphis pubis disorder(SPD)- terrible name but basically refers to pain in the pelvic region caused by an influx of hormones that are preparing our bodies for birth. If it gets worse ask to see a physio. You can get a brace which helps. Also they recommend pillows between your legs at night and give hints on how to get out of bed, put shoes on etc. I have this but probably at the extreme level. It was painful in 1st pregnancy but 2nd time around it is out of control! It does get better after birth. Hope this helps
DS - I have exactly what you described and I am going to my MW this afternoon so I will see what she says, I think as SK has already said it's the dreaded SPD kicking in. Another one of the symptoms you are not told about when you are thinking about getting pregnant.
Libralady - lucky luck lucky you! Where are you going?
Sun is out hurrah maybe just been round the garden drowning snails, just maybe *touches wood so not to jinx it* summer is here? Working from home today because of aforementioned midwife appointment, also got someone coming around to give me a cleaning quote for the house, would love someone to come in just 4 hours a week to do all the tasks I hate (erm i.e. housework) not sure it's going to be feasible in a post-baby budget but you never know. I am spoilt I know.
With you on the SPD walking like a cowboy for the last 2 months and it has eased of a little Bed is turning out to be a nightmare! if i lie on my side i get pains in my hip so that means turning nearly every hour!! With the size of my belly that is not easy! So between getting up to lo's at night and blowing my nose (sinus) i am sick to the teeth of being pregnant !!! Why cant i just have the baby.... Lets hope today goes smoothly cause i could really do with having a good day.. Sorry for the whinge.. Hope you all are well and happy...
I feel so sorry for all you SPD sufferers, it sounds horrible!!
minnie I know how you feel about wanting the baby, in my most desperate moments I just think, 'He will be alright if I had him now' (29 weeks) But then the thought gets quickly shaken from my head, but I don't know if I can last another 11 weeks, (13 maximum!) I'm sure we'll cope!
Rumple meant to say last night, am so of your P & T I really wanted the Green one, it looks so lovely, but I opted for boring charcoal as my DS just has to look at something and it's dirty, so it was a safe choice! And you got a great bargain there too with all that free stuff!
Oh Minne1 don't say things like that!! ( I know you don't mean it but don't jinx it!) I have a strict talk with mine every day about how it has at LEAST another 6 weeks cooking time before I expect to see it. However I am sorry you are having such a horrible time and hope you do have a good day, I feel so lucky compared to most of you, relatively easy pregnancy and no LOs to look after (unless you count DH) . *sends chocolate cake vibes out to everyone.
Also the sun has gone in already boo, however I have just bought this: http://www.quins.co.uk/productview.ink?id=163&pcode=TTBDSQ50&pcategory=Childrens%20Wear&story type= Luckily Quins have girl and boys teams!
Oh no you are not a Tigers supporter are you!! So is my father, I imagine handing over the baby in it's Quins babygro for some grandparent babysitting and getting it back in a Tiger babygro!! (my own fault I mentioned to him that you can Tiger babygros, he was very pleased with this news)
When I was pregnant last time, I saw a tiny baby dressed in a Tiger (winnie the pooh) outfit there, and thought 'I'll do that' But haven't had a chance to go for ages!! maybe next season??? It's DH's fault! Wasn't really into sport before I met him, now I love Rugby (or is it the hot muddy men in tight small shorts?? )
Whenever someone points out that I like perving over big men in small shorts I point out that I know the rules. As long as you know the rules I don't see any problem with perving as well.
We were discussing what age we could take the baby from and we reckon 3 months would be ok as long as we bought it some ear protectors. It's a family tradition that we always go to The Stoop for the quins/leciester game, it's also seems to be a tradition for Leceister to win, oh well at least that means my Dad has to get the beers in! Get them started as young as possible, munchkin rugby is SO cute to watch.
Thing that made me laugh last night, our local Odeon has mother and baby screenings, and get this they are GENEROUS enough that babies go free. I just thought that was so big of them. rollseyes
Morning all! Having a duvet day today as had virtually no sleep at all and the rooster 2 doors down was crowing at 3:30am non stop!!
Sympathies to all SPD sufferers. Mine is definately helped by the support belt I had to get. So was actually worth the money! Not entirely sure that the exersizes do anything, but will persevere!
Jodie and Libra - Will struggle with the rugby babygro, DH is a Bristol man, FIL is a Gloucester man, and I'm Northampton! And trust me, the fact that LO is a girl will not stop the rugby clobber....at least not if DH has anything to do with it! Maybe if we can get babygros for all teams she can wear them on rotation?!
Just a quick question....Is anyone else suffering with Hayfever at the moment. Mine is really bad and apparently I cant take anything?!?! All MW said is: 'There is nothing you can take but most women find that their symptoms disappear when they are pregnant.' Well, it would appear I am not most women, coz mine is as bad as ever....any suggestions?
I've been known to watch the rugby on a saturday afternoon while in the gym, wearing headphones and my friend coming over and getting me to shut up as I was screamimg at the tele!! he he he
Where my DH plays (he's my little hooker, which makes me his pimp!!) they do 'tag rugby' from about 5, I can't wait for DS to start getting in to it! I think team games are important anyway, IMO it teachs them so much!
LOL at the cinema, DS won't even watch the TV for 5 mins let alone a whole film, that would be my idea of hell!!!!!
Also did anyone watch the last episode of Gavin and Stacey last week? Where Ness gave birth, I might be sad, but it got me all excited about doing again!
bebejones crossed post sorry, but my hayfever was really bad this weekend, must be all the mowing of lawns that was going on! And I don't suffer all that much anyway, so mines got worse too! I didn't even think about what to take/not to take so not sure
One thing that the baby shouldn't interuppt thanks to the joys of Sky+ is our rugby watching!
Re: hayfever I am sure I have hear Piriton IS ok (even tho I think it makes you sleepy). I usually get hayfever (not till May) so will put it on the list of things to ask the midwife this afternoon and see what she says and report back.
Got a GP appointment later in week so will have to ask him. Its taken me years to find what works for my hayfever, and it can get really bad with me not being able to open my eyes and lips swelling also....dont want it to get to that!
I had never even heard of SPD before I got pregnant with my first, I mentioned it to the MW at about 18 weeks and she said to me "some back pain is to be expected in pregnancy" I said it's not my back it's my tailbone and hips but she was next to useless
Next pregnancy at least I got some physio and a belt but TBH I don't think it helped much.
This pregnancy has definitely been the hardest with regards the SPD, I second whoever says night-time is the worst, luckily DP does most of the night wakenings but sadly he can't go to the toilet for me I find I spend all night in the one position and wake up really stiff, also I have to sleep propped up on my v-shaped pillow because of my sinuses and snoring so am not very comfy.
I know what you mean Minnie I have had enough of being pregnant too.
My SPD tips are do as little as possible, have rests when you can, I have to force myself to sit down every hour or so. A nice deep bath every night can help as well.
Luckily I don't get hayfever, feel so sorry for sufferers.
So sorry for all you SPD sufferers. At least I can get relatively comfy at night as my back doesn't hurt when i'm on my side. Having said that LO was having some sort of party in there last night. For hours on end... So no sleep here!
bebejones, Yip i have the hayfever/sinus for 3 months now. Went to the doctor and she also said nothing i can take! It's eased a little but still up during the night with it. I snore which i never did, have to blow my nose all the time and it's running like a tap. I never had hayfever or sinus in my life, there is a name for it but cant think of it now. Lets hope it goes away soon!
Went to look at some maternity cloths for this wedding and everything is horrible horrible horrible !!! Had DD's with me so that was fun!! I just left and will have to go again another day!!
Raining here too plus a full line of cloths just hung so there soaking now!! Think i will light the fire and cuddle up with DD's and watch some kiddys movie with lots of choc and treats for me...
Feeling really low and miserable today. Think its probably coz Im at home alone, if I had gone to work at least I wouldnt be able to sit around feeling sorry for myself! Just keep feeling so unprepared for the whole parenthood thing! And the thought of giving birth is terrifying! Think I have been in denial for so long but now that Im getting bigger it all seems alot more real, and the thought that she actually has to come out is scary beyond belief!!!!
bebejones i know exactly how you feel sometimes i lie there at night and this baby feels so huge to me i think that to it has to come out but thats one thing we all have in common we all have to do it and i also think the first one to give birth on this thread who puts there babys pic on here for all of us to see we will all cry cos it will be so cute and then we wont be able to wait and our bodies are designed that soon we just will have had enough and feel we want the baby out whatver the pain maybe this is a bit graphic but i alway remember gettin told as a child (im sure they were referring to a ball)that what goes up must come down and it always makes me laugh when in thinking of the labour with this one we are all facing the final hurdle now theres to to be nerves sometime this is my 7th labour and still scared i guess im not very brave though
bebejones - sorry you are feeling rough but take heart that there is not a Mum to be in the world who hasn't felt like you do.
Yes labour can be rough I won't lie it's not the best way to spend a few hours but as soon as they plonk that little screaming, slimy thing on your chest it will all be worth it, it's hard to describe it to someone who hasn't been through it but it is the most totally amazing feeling ever. Labour is the way you get to meet the most special person in your life ever. I'm terrified of going through it again but see it as a necessary evil in order to meet my little girl.
All the other parenting stuff will fall into place naturally and within a week you will wonder what you ever did without her.
You will be fine you will get through it and you will think it's the best thing you have ever done.
And were all here to hold your hand for the scary bits too
Thanks SK, just having one of those feeling sorry for myself moments....pregnancy so far has not been good and it does seem to drag me down somedays. Just have to remind myself that it will all be worth it in the end, and that there are people a lot worse off than me. Only 3 more months til I have my little girl and we will be a family....cant wait! She is very excited and kicking me right now, think she knows her cot has just arrived....gonna be like me, I love presents!!!!!!
Another SPD tip. I bought some silky pj bottoms and I find it slightly easier to slide out of bed and turn over. When DH was in Singapore recently he bought some silk sheets (thinking the more slippery the better) - they were so effective that combined with my silky pj bottoms I managed to slip right out of bed - which was not really useful because then I had to try and get up!!!
It is amazing I have found no one in any of my ante natal classes who has suffered SPD. I thought I was like 1 in 1000. Good to know I am not alone...but not so good so many of you are suffering.
At my neo-natal physio appointment they actually gave me 2 different belts to use and I did not have to buy one. Last time I did, so worth making the appointment if suffering to get a free belt.
A tip for SPD I got from a friend is to sit on a plastic bag when getting in and out of the car, same principle as the silk sheets, much easier to glide!
Oh yes I have the plastic bag in car too! Forgot about that as I keep forgetting my recycling bags when I go shopping so end up actually having to use it! So in a way it has been helpful on two levels - for my foggy brain and my SPD!
Does anyone know of a product that I can use on the very small roof window in the nursery to block out light? We cannot find a blind that fits! Any ideas?
Never heard of them tips will be putting them to the test ASAP..
LO's and ME had a nap OMG feel a little better for it and so do they DP rang to see how i was aswell so it's good to know he cares even when i bit the head off him!
Haven't been chatting for a while as very busy at work. I run my own business so not much maternity leave for me. Now 30+2, doing ok- just some lower back pain and feeling like I'm 90 years old!
Went for a tour of the maternity unit- dorchester in Dorset and was very pleasantly suprised. We get put into a nice big room with a sepatate birthing bed and an afterwards bed, complete with ensuite bath, birth ball, mats on the floor, cd player etc.I was expecting far more basic.
I've read the Marie Mongham hypnobirthing book and am going to pay for a course- hoping to combine this with a water birth. Has anyone else set plans about how they want to give birth?
Another question to experienced mums- I'm hoping to breast feed but want to get some formula in just in case- is there one formula that is recommended above all others or does everyone have different opinions?
Hope everyone is feeling ok. I'm off to mothercare to buy a tankini as I've got a spa day booked on Wednesday!
hi bebejones how about looking in Halfords for the things you can stick on car windows to stop glare? Alternatively just buy some blackout material and some velcro tape, stick one side of the tape to the edges of the blackout material and staple the other to the windowframe. It's not elegant but it will keep the light out.
I have just realised I need blinds for four fairly large windows in our house. Our living room is at the back of the house but currently has no window covering at all. I need blinds for the two bay windows so that our neighbours don't get a shock when I'm in labour . Then the boys' room, and the room my mum uses when she comes to stay, are both west facing and get hugely hot in the summer so could do with some blackout blinds for hot afternoons. Eek more expense. Roller blinds would be good but I might end up doing the velcro thing myself instead.
Bebejones I think it's perfectly natural to feel unprepared, and fed up towards the end of pregnancy. I've felt the same in all pregnancies. Every baby is different anyway so I suspect it's always a learning process when they finally come out and you can never fully prepare yourself for the reality.
Disney sorry to hear about your spd on top of everything else. My midwife suggested the 'pelvic connection' website which has lots of useful info on spd but as others have said a lot of it boils down to taking it easy... which is hard to do when you have so much else going on.
Jodie I have a newborn Tigger outfit, would you like it? I was going to get rid of it anyway as it's far too hot for a summer baby, but you could always just stick your little one in it briefly in order to take a photo. That's what we did to show the person who bought it for us!
Similarly minnie I have a black velvet strapless dress that I wore when about 8 months pregnant last time for a black-tie wedding reception. I was looking at it the other day and thinking I probably would never use it again. Don't know if it is appropriate for you though, if it's a daytime do.
Oh I have just managed to achieve very little with the time that ds2 is at nursery. I'd better call the dentists just to feel I can tick something off my list.
Hi Jocesar I was told Milupa Aptamil was the most like breast milk. My hospital had SMA and I know most of my friends used Cow and Gate. My DD had some reflex and was breast fed but when she finally agreed to take a bottle at 11 months she took to Milupa Aptamil the best. Seemed to settle in her tummy best.
Having said that I have also learnt that all babies are so very different. A good tip I have given friends is to keep to hand a few little cartons of pre - made formular for those first days as you just do not know what will happen and can not plan for everything. A baby at midnight crying for breast milk (but your supply is still coming through) can be scary and stressful so the little cartons are very handy as a back up.
Try out one and see how it goes. Also saves you in those very early foggy days of making up the milk and also prevents you having to throw away entire tins that were either not used or not liked.
Enjoy the spa day - DH has booked one for me in 2 weeks but it seems sooo far away!
Hi Jocescar, that's exactly how I want to give birth, we are not taking the course but have got the books and am hoping to have a water birth if possible.
bebjones, I know you can get blackout material to line curtains with, maybe you could buy some and make a blind?
Minnie1, glad you are feeling better and that your husband is being supportive!
DS I talked to the midwife, she immediatly said SDP and referred me to physio (month wait however!) so mention it to your GP when you see him/her this week.
Also asked midwife about hayfever and she said I would have to see the GP. Also said that I had ketones(Sp!) in my urine and needed to eat more - I have NEVER been told that and my DH is going to find it hilarious. Apart from that baby fine! A (very) little part of me wanted the baby to be too little or too big (nothing wrong of course!) so I would get sent for another scan!
bebejones a friend of mind has her DD in an attic room with roof windows. She used plastic contact - the stuff used for coverng books etc. Eventually she found someone who made little blinds but I believe they were quite expensive. A good interim measure...and I think she chose a style with pretty pictures!
bebejones - I second what someone else has said have a look on ebay for some backout material, DD1's room is west facing so gets really hot from 4pm onwards. I lined her curtains with blackout material and although it doesn't black out the light 100% it really does make a difference.
On the formula front from the experts around MN there is very little difference from one to the other, one is not closer to breastmilk than another it's all a marketing ploy TBH. I think it's a case of finding one that agrees with your LO and sticking with it.
Minnie - I found a dress on the topshop website, they don't stock it anymore, for a friends christening, theres a few here [[ http://www.topshop.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=19551&storeId=12556&categ oryId=42395&parentcategoryrn=42391&langId=-1&top=Y topshop maternity]] am planning to wear it in the summer when huge with some sandals
If you can get to a New Look they have some nice plain black dresses that you could jazz up with some funky accessories. I could do with some more maternity jeans and a few tops but am loathed to buy anything for 10 weeks now.
Thanks for the offer mummypig but MIL and FIL have already bought us one, thats very nice of you!
jocesar I was also told by the MW that Milupa Aptmil was the best, and DS stuck to that all the way through, but some of my friends babies got poorly tummies with it and changed to Cow and Gate, I decided to go for the Milupa as it was what the MW's gave DS as top up feeds in the hospital, and he didn't seem bothered with it.... I agree with Cilc though, instead of buying expensive tubs, just buy a few cartons just in case, they are so handy, esp. when you haven't a 'routine' established and you might get caught out!!
jocesar - I would avoid buying any formula (and the other stuff like bottles etc) if you want to breastfeed. See how bf goes first. If you feel down etc it will be hard to resist that carton of ff and that could potentially begin other problems with supply etc. With DS1 I started giving one bottle of formula a day at 6 weeks, and in retrospect wished I never started it.
If you decide to switch to ff then you can make that decision less hastily.
isaidno- I too wondered about that. Wondered if it would be too easy to give up BF if it was there looking at you in the cupboard. So many friends gave up quickly and i really want to carry on as long as possible.
bebejones- What about something like this or what my mum did on her roof window... attach some net wire across the top and bottom of the window frame and then run up a peice of fabric with black out on the back with hems top and botttom to thread the wire through. can be pulled across when you dont want it dark.
We bought new balckout Roman blinds for the nursery a few weeks ago.
jocesar- I like the idea of a waterbirth too. My hopistal only has one pool and its first come first served so have to see if its free at the time. I know you can hire them to use at home but dont think im brave enough for that first time round!
Had a hectic day at work and after our busy weekend im knackered!!
Sorry isaidno but I really do not agree. In the first week my milk took a little while to come through fast enough so I was grateful I had a couple of cartons to use late at night when shops closed etc. If I had not had these I would have been quite traumatised as DD1 was desperate for food and quite distressed. A good friend gave me this advice and I recall using 2 cartons at night in the first week. Once my milk came through everything was fine and I bb until DD1 was 18 months old. However like you have friends who resorted to cartons later on - from about 5 weeks and they had problems with supply and the fact their babies wanted formular instead. I really think in your first week it is all about survival, keepng stress levels down and trying things. Be prepared is my motto! You may not use them, but just incase...
FORMULA - aptamil is the best IMO. I ended up doing bf and ff when DD was 3 weeks old as I had terrible probs bf and she was starving - lost loads of weight and the MWs aren't allowed to suggest you give formula. I feel really guilty about it now and wish I had given her it sooner! I did both until she got her first tooth at 6 months and had no probs with confusion or anything else - she was quite happy with both. I am hoping it will be easier to bf this time though.
MUMMYWANNABE - thanks for that. My Mum is such a strong woman (stubborn too) so we'll just ned to see how the angiogram goes.
Finally got my essay finished - hurrah! Hopefully I'll pass the 2 of them and thank God Uni will be finished - I can enjoy life for a while!
DD is a nightmare just now still wakening at 2-3am finally got her settled at 4.30am - I feel knackered and my face is falling off!!
RE LABOUR - I found it the worst pain imaginable but you sort of lose track of time - time passes and you aren't really aware of it. I am hoping it will be a bit better this time but won't feel a failure if I need an epideural. i am sure we will all be discussing it more nearer the time.
PREMMIES - I know what you mean but my friend's LO was born at 28 weeks and they are so fragile and tiny. You can't even cuddle them for ages and feeding them etc is awful so although it is rubbish being pg it is best for all of us.
Bought DD some new reins today. She is so fast now - and I am not! The reins we have are too short for DH and I - we are stooped over with them. So we got a cuddly horse backpack, with a zip and reins. Very cute. Also bought her one of those snack trap thingymejigs.
Well I am off to bed to relax and read as I am needing to rest. SPD symptoms rearing their ugly head here too but not too bad as yet - clicking like mad when I stand up though.
DISNEY - good luck at GPs tomorrow - let us know how you get on.
SWEETKITTY - hope you are feeling better soon. Have you tried steam inhalations yet for your snoz? Also the ear candling thing if you can get DDS looked after for an hour.
Well the holiday is all systems go. MW gave me my certificate to fly, so this time next week I will have been on the beach and will now probably be in some lovely taverna having a fantastic meal.
I'm off to Kefalonia (one of the Greek Ionian Islands) and it will be my 5th time there. Can't wait.
Hopefully I will have been on Antisamos Beach (the one in Captain Corelli where the Italian Encampment is based. My favourite beach of all time. Just love snorkelling there in the clear blue seas with loads of fish swimming around. Fabulous.
Jocesar whereabouts are you? Dorchester is just down the road from me, although I'll be having LO at Poole.
Didn't realise we had so many Rugby fans on this thread. I follow Ospreys at club level although my cousin plays for Gloucester (and Wales) and of course my big passion is WRU. Had some fantastic rugby outfits for DS when he was little so they will be passed onto this one. Although my husband is English, I refuse to buy anything with England on it. Have decided that is down to my DH. Needless to say DS didn't have anything with the red rose on it. Now as far as DS is concerned, he supports Wales and when we were watching the Six Nations, if the England games came on telly, he said he'd rather watch Boomerang! Good Lad
P.S. Despite everyone saying how small I am (even though I am a bigish girl) and the fact that I haven't put on any weight yet (still 3lb under my pre-pregnancy weight) my MW got the tape measure out today and although I am only 30+6 I'm measuring 32 weeks. Had great delight in telling that to MIL as she is trying to scaremonger me!
With regards to Formula, DS was readmitted to hospital at 4 days because he wouldn't feed and turned jaundiced. The paediatrician recommended we started him on formula to boost him up whilst I continued to express and we could use the breast and then top up with formula. We used SMA, purely for the fact that my DH said if it was good enough for his nephews and nieces, it was good enough for his son. Unfortunately, my milk supply never really got going, despite medication and once on formula my DS never looked back. I am intending to give breastfeeding another shot this time, but I will not beat myself up about it if it isn;t possible. Have already bought an electric breast pump in anticipation, but no bottles at present, as they do say, to give milk frokm a cup or a spoon rather than a bottle if you are trying to breastfeed and wish to continue to do so. HTH
My experiences FWIW are slightly similar to libraladys, DD1 was born 2 weeks early and was very sleepy for the first day, she just wouldn't latch on and her blood sugar was dropping. We both got out of hospital the next day but were readmitted the day ater that, I felt terrible like a failure the MWs were threatening to tube feed DD1 but I said I would express instead, they got me an industrial pump and I got about an oz out first go and bottled fed her that. That was a horrible night we were in a room by ourselves, DD1 was under her sunbed for her jaundiced and I had to
am up to 14 4lb!! I was 14 10lb with DD so I really don't want to put much more on.
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They are still very quiet but the trace was fine and have had a few movements since. 
feel bad now
at your shopping list Not that I need much but still must have been great fun buying all of that. So sorry to hear about your Mum being poorly as well. 
