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its called the "Renfrew picture action" or something like that.
That day she came home saying "this is my angry face and this is my happy face£" etc, and i said to DH she,s had a test/asessment done im sure.
Then on monday the LEA sent me by email late evidence for the tribunal and this was included, i dont know who carried out this asessment on her, but its dated for 7 may lastweds, but we didnt sign anything saying the ed psych could test her until 3.20pm on that day.
she was taken off the ICAN programme last october as her speech was too good for their work that they do with kids, so i dont know if it was them or not.
It's a test of expressive language. Stuff like looking at pictures and describing what they see - the better the expression of language (and the higher the awareness of the need to explain thoughts better for your listener), the better the score.
The happy face/ angry face thing sounds like they've been doing some ASD screening type stuff - similar to some of the ADOS questions.
Jenk,it shouldn't be carried out by anyone but SALT and even then it should be dated with name of tester displayed. So sorry for the stress you are under. I have experienced similar hassle as a parent and it grieves me greatly that something in the world of SN has gone so sickeniningly wroing that the people who are supposed to help ease the pressure, actually make it worse. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance. Rooting for you.
you wouldnt believe what has gone on in the last week at her nursrey, from pictures of her at the top of a climbing frame with a caption "dd shouting look at me", with no staff around, she has hemiplegia and they have never accepted her difficulties, she doesnt tell them when she,s tired and they actually sent the pictures to the SEN dept without our permission, that is breach of confidentiality and im not sure what i can do about that.
last week she told us a lady had been doing angry,happy and sad faces with her and now it seems a SALT has gone in and done some asessment without informing us and has sent the info to the SEN manager without us seeing it first.
they are making such a dogs dinner of this tribunal.
i phoned the SEN manager today and told her that we consider her actions "very serious", she raised her voice to me and told me I ASKED FOR THE INFO/PICTURES, YOU ASKED FOR THIS TRIBUNAL AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO GATHER ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE.
I would put in a complaint about her rudeness too. Prove that you are not to be f**ed with. When they know that,they often tend to give up and give in, so as always,the few assertive parents get what they want while the timid masses put up and shut up.
yes we have an IPSEA lady whos (hopefully) coming to the tribunal next week.
we have a complaint at the moment about the nursery putting dd into education from 9-3 and charging us for a daycare place. its the SEN managers boss who is investigating it, we had the one in jan about the forced toileting issue but nothing gets resolved.
im not sure who to complain to cos he,s the exec director of the council.
Oh moondog - I wish you worked at my school. The only time I see our SALT is when a child in my class has a review due. The rest of the time she has very little input
My current class is a group of six non-verbal severely autistic children.
I really believe that the only way to change anything is to bompard Health Trusts with constant formal complaints. No point doing anything at a lower level.Christie, she is probably too scared to come-you always sounds on the ball!
Thanks moondog but sadly all the other teachers say the same about her. The thing that really pisses me off is that she then produces a report that says "Over the last year Peter has taken part in an integrated programme of speeech and language therapy in consultaion with the school SALT"
Really means she doesn't actually do much with the children at all.
dd is supposed to be being "monitored" by SALT, she hasnt been seen by one AFAIK for over a year now, well she probably was last week by one who carried out the test.
moondog,
on the test it just gives her scores against what children of her age should be attaining,and thats it, no name not signed and it doesnt give much detail, ive emailed the headteacher and asked for a copy of the evidence supporting the test and im going in to see her in a bit, is there anything else i should ask for?
its absolute rubbish, she,s just had last month an asessment from an independent ed psych who said she does have a Speech and Language problem and she needs help with it, he did something called a Lowe and Costello symbolic play test and she did it in silence, his report says there is complete absence of any imaginary play. He said her language makes an accurate testing of her intellectual aptitude completely unreliable.
Just wondering whether there might be a test of receptive language they have done that doesn't look so good iyswim that they haven't disclosed to you/tribunal. I agree that a test of expressive language in response to visual stimuli doesn't mean no language problems - as it's not dealing with the semantic/pragmatic aspects of speech and language in terms of conversation, social skills, ability to respond to others.
