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Mumsnet Discussions: Special needs : Dingle, TC, Headgirl - any others with little ones with ds or experience with hypothyroidism (12 messages)
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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By eidsvold on Tue 13-May-08 07:50:54
It seems dd1 has hypothyroidism. We have been monitoring her thyroid closely and while her results have been relatively okay - the last couple are elevated and the most recent reading for one aspect has almost doubled in three months.

So we are starting medicating with thyroxine. Does anyone have any experience with this? I am just reluctant to start down this path although all I have read says getting the thyroid sorted early once it starts being dysfunctional is very very important - I just am concerned about starting on the path of lifelong medication.

I know there are plenty of parents on here who have to administer huge amounts of medication - I am led to believe this one is very important but can be tricky to get 'right'.

Any info, experiences etc very welcome.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TinySocks on Tue 13-May-08 12:10:53
Hi eidsvold. Can I ask why are you reluctant to use the medicine? Have they given you an alternative.
My sister has hypothyroidism, it was detected quite late (in her 20s), had it been identified sooner she wouldn't have suffer as much as she did. As far as I know there is no side effect at all, yes it is a lifelong medication, but it is absolutely vital. I would compare it to a severe diabetic taking his insulin, you just have to take it, there is no alternative.
It does not impact my sister's life in any way, she just takes one tablet a day as per her daily routine.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By eidsvold on Tue 13-May-08 12:21:59
she is 5 and I was hoping to delay starting her on medication for life till a little later. I know it is vital and she has actually only been prescribed a very small dose and we will review in 2 months. She is under the paediatrician at the moment and I am thinking of asking for her to be referred to an endocrinologist for that side of her care.

From what I have read and discussed with the paed - there is no other alternative.

Tiny Socks - I guess I knew this was coming as her reading for that particular part was creeping up and above the normal range.

I just wondered how it impacted on others - I knew getting the dosage right is absolutely vital.

We have been prescribed the liquid for her at this stage.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TinySocks on Tue 13-May-08 13:21:12
eidsvold, I think going to an endocrinologist is definitely the best thing to do. He/She will know what is the right dosis. My sister (now in her 40s) still has her thyroid checked once a year to make sure her dosis is okay. I hope someone else comes along with more experience. But all I can say is that it is really really fantastic that they have detected it soon, and based on my sister's experience, believe me you will be doing DD a huge favour by controlling the situation sooner rather than later.
Good luck!!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By theheadgirl on Tue 13-May-08 16:09:08
Hi Eidsvold. DD3 has the yearly thyroid testing as recommended cos hypothyroidism is more common in those with DS, but so far hers have come back ok. As you prob know, I'm a nurse, and thyroxine is one of THE most common drugs taken on a lifelong basis by people of all ages, conditions, sexes, whatever. Either because their thyroid, like with your DD, is underactive, or strangely because it was overactive and too much of it was removed to rectify that. There isn't an alternative. I believe the only way to get the right dose is by blood testing.
I would feel the same as you about embarking on a course of life long medication - but the alternative is a real set back in her health and development, and the treatment is so successful. Hope you feel better about this soon, love to you and her xx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Dingle on Tue 13-May-08 17:55:02
Sorry, no real knowledge or experience. Again DD has checks, not regular though-only after me chasing them up basically! BUT so far we have had no problems!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By LeonieD on Tue 13-May-08 19:16:22
theheadgirl "There isn't an alternative."

Incorrect. There is an alternative, its just not available on the NHS.

www.armourthyroid.com

Natural porcine dessicated thyroid standardised to 9mcg of T3 and 38mcg of T4 per grain.

I take 4 grains daily for my hypothyroidism, but whilst pregnant, I add thyroxine to it rather than increasing the Armour dose.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By theheadgirl on Tue 13-May-08 20:32:17
LeonieD - eidsvold is in australia, so this product might be an option there.
I have to say though, the website is not clear on its benefits over the preparation that is generally used, and which, if levels are tested regularly, is known to be safe, even in pregnancy. Do you know the reason why its not available on the NHS?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By eidsvold on Wed 14-May-08 04:50:56
thank you for the info about thyroxine headgirl. I know it is important for her to have it - just was worried about the side effects and the close monitoring.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mm22bys on Wed 14-May-08 12:32:31
Hi Eidsvold,

DS2 is on levothyroxeine, one 25mcg tablet a day. It hasn't occurred to me that he may be on it for life - the neurologist in conjunction with the endo told us that his TSH was slightly elevated, and that such a small dose would not cause any harm, but it may help his development (he has unexplained global development delay).

I just add it to his cereal in the morning (presuming I remember), and the worst part was the chemist who refused to fill his prescription (just took it another one).

I don't see it as a big deal (compared with some medication some children need).

All the best,
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By LeonieD on Wed 14-May-08 13:50:24
Theheadgirl: simple reason Armour isnt available in the UK on the NHS - in the 80s its license was pulled because thyroxine is 'purer' (which technically it is, since it contains T4 only and not T3 or any other goodies) and Forest Pharmaceuticals are not interested in reapplying for a license here, costing them millions of dollars.

I import mine monthly.

As for Oz, i think there's a dessicated thyroid preparation available in Australia, but i cannot for the life of me remember its name.

Armour has been around for 100 years, and has 100 years of safety to back it up. Thyroxine has only been around since the late 60s.

The benefits are because the thyroid makes 6 hormones, not one. T3, the active hormone, is present in Armour tablets, but not in Thyroxine tablets. The presumption is that your liver and other peripheral sites can convert as much triiodothyronine as is needed out of the levothyroxine that a person is give - but that is often not the case.

Taking some T3 in a pill avoids the need for relying solely on conversion, and most certainly helps relieve some of the dry skin and constipation and etc that linger for many hypothyroid sufferers who take thyroxine only.

Without the T3 in Armour, i'd still be infertile, bleeding twice a month with a voice like Zsa Zsa Gabor, and probably would've had a hysterectomy out of desperation by now. You couldn't pry my Armour out of my cold dead fingers.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By theheadgirl on Wed 14-May-08 14:20:57
Leonie - interesting stuff, and good news that you've found something that works. I wouldn't dream of prying it out of your fingers - whether you were, god forbid, cold and dead, or in your current warm, baby growing state grin All the best.


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