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Mumsnet Discussions: Special needs : Should i send it to the Tribunal? (10 messages)
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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By jenk1 on Wed 07-May-08 10:31:04
just got a letter from the head teacher of dd,s nursery.

it says
having received your letter and discussed the contents with you on the phone i would be happy to arrange a meeting with youselves if you still require further clarification.

that is NOT what we asked her for, we asked for a written explanation of why dd has been receiving help off the senco all day and dh reiterated this to her on the phone on friday, she said due to prior commitments she wasnt able to answer our letter in writing but would like to invite us to a meeting.

they are stalling cos of the tribunal me thinks and also because they,ve messed up, i dont know if i should send it in as late evidence, and should i go above her now cos she wont answer in writing?

thanks
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By flyingmum on Wed 07-May-08 17:04:51
Might she submit it as her late evidence, ie, we've been helpful and offered a meeting but the parents didn't want it? In an attempt to make them look good????

It's only any good as late evidence if you submit your leter asking for written evidence along with their letter I would have thought. It is up to Tribunal and the clerk whether they accept late evidence. What I would ask is 'what are you hoping to achieve by submitting it'? If there is a concrete answer to that then submit away.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By jenk1 on Wed 07-May-08 18:24:43
i decided to send it.

i sent our original letter asking for an explanation and her letter that i received today.

im hoping by submitting it that the panel will see that dd has been in education all day when other children get 3 hours, she has been going in from 9am til 3.20pm, and they wont give me an explanation as to why or what they have been doing with her only to say its a "treat".

so they have been "treating" dd to full days in education. hmm
the panel can then decide if they accept it or not.

then i got a phone call from the ed psych, she wants to go in and see dd next weds.

now i would have thought next weds would be too late for late evidence as sendist told me it has to be in 5 working days before the tribunal and thats not including the tribunal date or the date that its received.

they seem to have left it very late to do an asessment/observation of dd.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By PipinJo on Wed 07-May-08 23:34:27
If ed psych is wittness at tribunal he can give verbal evidence on day without requestin

ed psych did this at ds tribunal assessed week before. Very common sly practice!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By deeeja on Thu 08-May-08 00:46:41
I was adviced to not let anyone see my ds after draft statement received, or before tribunal. Do not let ed psych see your dd, and if you can, I would keep her away from the nursery until after the tribunal.
Pipinjo, that is very sly, will have to be careful about things like this.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By jenk1 on Thu 08-May-08 15:56:50
wow arent they bad they way they go about things?

dd has been off today, she,s not well and dh took her to the GP, she said its probably viral, but she,s due to have her vaccinations on tuesday so am going to use that as the excuse as to why she,s off on weds,and thursday and friday.

our private psych said the tribunal will not take kindly to the ed psych going in and not letting us see the report before the tribunal and they may even adjourn, maybe thats what the lea are hoping for.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By PipinJo on Thu 08-May-08 17:39:32
If you stop anyone from LEA seeing your son up to day of tribunal they may look at is as preventing help for your son. You can by law refuse after statutory assessment period to refuse anymore assessments etc and the Ed Psych has a 'duty of care' but I feel this isn't to the child as it should be but to the LEA. So you can but it may be looked at as negetive on your part.

If what you want you have good evidence for then don't worry? What are you fighting for?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By jenk1 on Thu 08-May-08 17:44:26
yes we do have good evidence especially from the independent psych.

but they have the ed psych and their specialist autism lady who said in march 2007 that she didnt see any signs of an asd in dd (despite the CDC saying there was)

but in the nursery report the senco says that dd comes in "with support".

we are fighting for them to do a stat asessment of her as they refused.

oh she,s not toilet trained either.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By PipinJo on Thu 08-May-08 18:00:56
Sorry shouldn't say don't worry....it's the most stressful time you will ever go through, except for a few other things of course. I feel for you only in your shoes few weeeks ago...I won as I had over welming evidence. That's what is all down to unless tribunal panel are anti what you want and even then they have to say no with good reason.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By PipinJo on Thu 08-May-08 18:13:33
the autism specialist and ed psych CANNOT diagnosis they have probably p*ed off the CDC.

If "with support" is not meeting your son needs i.e they don't know how to help ds, or he is deterioating due to "inaduquate support" then they will have to prove your ds is making improvements in school....the Ed Psych went into school and saw ds at home week before tribunal and he was witness....to be honest his results of the assessment showed ds could not have made improvements "naturally"

Awww...its adding up year ago since ed psych saw your ds. By law ed psych has to assess 6 monthly if under 5 and annually if over 5. So ed psych doing annual review and tribunal at same time!

If ds was on i.e ABA and no signs os ASD...then that's the best evidence that ABA is working IYKWIM!

When did they refuse to do stat assessment? Because you can request another one either 26 or 52 weeks (can't remember but sure it is 26 weeks) after they last refused! But you have ed psych now so carry on as they will have to do it if tribunal orders! Good luck x


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