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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By mumofmonsters on Wed 03-Sep-08 12:29:09
CERN is real??

there is a LHC?????

I thought Dan Brown had made it up blush<cringe>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Wed 03-Sep-08 11:55:58
do you think we will see black hole before we are sucked into it?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bobsyouruncle on Wed 03-Sep-08 11:55:46
oh good, just one beam, I can go back to stressing about bouncy castles and party food etc, phew...
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Wed 03-Sep-08 11:55:31
this does not fill me with comfort

what is the difference [ignorant]
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ripeberry on Wed 03-Sep-08 11:51:42
Doing the Large Hadron rap! [gin]
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Wed 03-Sep-08 11:43:39
so what are they doing on october 21st then?

feckin hell
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ripeberry on Wed 03-Sep-08 10:50:08
The only thing they are doing on September 10th is switching it on and sending one beam ALL the way round the circuit.
They seem to have been taking months just to get the whole thing to cool down until it's COLDER than space Brrrr!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bobsyouruncle on Wed 03-Sep-08 10:40:26
So can I clarify, it's not happening on September 10th? Its just that's ds's birthday and I'm planning a party fgs.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ripeberry on Wed 03-Sep-08 10:34:33
Actually, the collisions won't happen until 21st October 2008, so we can all breathe easy in September.
Might even manage to squeeze in an indian summer! Lol.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Wed 03-Sep-08 09:35:41
[impressed]
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By arfishy on Wed 03-Sep-08 01:39:39
Ooooh. A really good geek thread.

<barges in wielding geek credentials>

The first ever website created and CERN is now working on the Internet's successor 'GRID'.

And the LHC is in a huge 27km long circular tunnel underneath CERN with cavernous underground experiment chambers.

I love mysterious underground stuff, like hidden wartime cabinet rooms and the secret railway station underneath New York.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By policywonk on Wed 03-Sep-08 00:16:02
Very impressed by Ani and slur. In the way that only a history grad can be. I do find the CERN stuff exciting, but just in the way that I find all massive great big things exciting (ships, tall buildings, etc etc).
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Wed 03-Sep-08 00:15:32
Tim Berners-Lee in 1989 at CERN
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Wed 03-Sep-08 00:14:34
<<specifically the world wide web, nods to sciboffpedants>>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Wed 03-Sep-08 00:11:58
physicists created the internet?

[come on slur you can do better than that]

Only problem with this whole thing is if I'm right I won't be able to say "I told You So"
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Wed 03-Sep-08 00:10:07
And by the way those 'bunch of boys' brought you the internet so doff your cap wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Wed 03-Sep-08 00:08:23
Did you not listen to the rap? grin

<Cracks knuckles>

Okay, my understanding of quantum physics is a line over there in the distance, but I am trying.

The key is that the universe is odd. Matter and energy are related, they are interchangeable, like one can become the other and back again.

The Higgs boson is what governs matter being matter. Matter is like energy condensed and Higgs as something to do with that.

Right got that? Cos I don't think I do really. But let's keep going.

In understanding the universe and why it behaves in the way it does, why particles do what they do and so on. You can imagine it like a jigsaw being worked on. And lots of pieces are understood and fall into place, matter has antimatter and things are tested and it all fits. But there is a gap in the jigsaw. Its like you know its shape and can guess what it looks like how it'll fit, but you can't see it. The higg's boson particles are that.

They are inferred and the LHC might be able to detect them, actually 'see' them. If it can then it vindicates the standard model of understanding. Which in turn explains how matter exists as matter and not energy.

I think.

Maybe.

But FFS particle physics is soo hard and I haven't even attempted to think about the different particle families because my head hurts.

Lookit Understanding the way things work is good and useful. We understood electrons and electricty and wayhey we were off! I don't know how the experiment will help in the long term but I think it will.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Tue 02-Sep-08 21:48:32
I think it is just a bunch of boys seeing who can make the biggest bang.

It is all one-up-manship on the brink.

It is crap.

Exactly WHAT are they going to prove?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By PinkTulips on Tue 02-Sep-08 20:54:32
if it destroys the universe it's not like we'll be around to whinge.

worreis me less than selafield does tbh.

just think of the possibilities, the science it could prove and disprove and the discoveries that could result.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Tue 02-Sep-08 20:52:28
Rofl absolutey farking fantastic!

..the things that they discover will rock you in the head grin

<<no surprise the back up danceers prefer anonymity>> wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Habbibu on Tue 02-Sep-08 20:39:53
Anifrangipani!!! That is one of The Coolest Things Ever. Wow. <joins fawning science-nerd-wannabe groupies at the frangipani feet>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Ripeberry on Tue 02-Sep-08 20:31:49
Check out "LHC rap" on you-tube! Great nerd tune and we can all pretend to know what they are doing!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By GrimmaTheNome on Tue 02-Sep-08 15:05:13
They're doing a special exhibition on the Large Hadron Collider at the Liverpool museum... anyone been and know if its good? We were thinking of going but its a bit of a trek

ps. I nearly mistyped Large Hadron blush do you think the physicist who came up with that term was very naive or a bit wicked?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By BoredyHouse on Tue 02-Sep-08 14:24:08
KerryMum: "who knows maybe THIS is how the universe started in the first place.

But it isn't the FIRST universe, it's the 500th because we just keep blowing it up again and again."

LOL
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Tue 02-Sep-08 14:17:12
Not stupid at all, I just think it sounds fabulous and am eagerly awaiting the Hollywood version, possibly staring Keanu Reeves. hmm

And I love particle physics language.

'Strangelets containing strange quarks'

As opposed to the normal up down variety.

Love it.

These kind of collisions happen in nature too.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Bumperlicious on Tue 02-Sep-08 14:04:06
I may be really stupid but I wasn't worrying about this at all. Haven't they already had a similar but smaller one somewhere. It really didn't occur to me that it might be dangerous but am going to read the NS article.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Tue 02-Sep-08 13:41:22
bump for charlotte
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Tue 02-Sep-08 13:39:21
This thread title started as tongue in cheek, but in truth this is pretty amazing.

new scientist article

new scientist blog - short
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Mon 01-Sep-08 23:42:04
missed that oops, that is fantastic.

Aint science great? grin

<unless it destroys us allllll mwah mwahahaha>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By oops on Mon 01-Sep-08 23:37:16
cure for cancer
alledgedly
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Mon 01-Sep-08 23:36:05
I thought we had one or two mn physicists?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By littlelapin on Mon 01-Sep-08 23:34:54
oh god, PLEASE do not remind me, I was on the Y2K committee for the bank I worked for, endless TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDIOUS meetings and all for nowt hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Mon 01-Sep-08 23:32:19
Oi I am masquarading as sciencey!

Lapin, those missing nanoseconds will throw all computers into meltdown, very liek how the millenium bug did. (or didn't)
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By oops on Mon 01-Sep-08 23:29:01
it's a bit sad if the world does implode becuse apparently we have just discovered the cure for cancer- will find a link.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Mon 01-Sep-08 23:27:18
pmsl
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By littlelapin on Mon 01-Sep-08 23:26:57
On a colony ship, KM, somewhere past Jupiter - they left YONKS ago wink
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Mon 01-Sep-08 23:25:48
where are all our scientists?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By GrimmaTheNome on Mon 01-Sep-08 23:22:58
I started reading the New Scientist article but got distracted by the fact that the female detector designer they'd interviewed was called Bilge. Am only doing my periodic Mumsnet lurk in the hope of a baby names thread...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By littlelapin on Mon 01-Sep-08 23:19:12
Hours will only contain 59.7563333333 minutes after the "event" anyway, so we will ALL need new watches
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Mon 01-Sep-08 23:05:37
I have replied Boys, but I have to question the wisdom of buying a watch in the endtime. grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By BoysAreLikeDogs on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:51:09
Acksherly could you all pop over here to help me chose a watch please??

Shallow?? Moi??
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By BoysAreLikeDogs on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:48:50
lol at you lot
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:44:48
pmsl
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By littlelapin on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:39:27
<tries to visualize flatpack event horizon>

<falls off chair>
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:32:08
perhaps a nice split infinitive shelving unit? One either side of the subjunctive settle?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Anifrangapani on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:29:47
Blerkhoel Sofa anyone?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:27:21
Well, I think even if the world and universe implodes into nothingness and non existance, there will still be pedants and Ikea. Erternally battling with their strange code words

<shudder>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By AbstractMouse on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:25:20
know god I'm shite.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By AbstractMouse on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:24:13
Oh well at least if the universe ceases to exist we won't really now about it hmm
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:24:00
good point
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Anifrangapani on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:22:30
I thought Ikea was a black hole
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Jux on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:20:56
Oh that's so cool. I'm going to have to divorce dh and find a scientist bf. I want to press the button. Am so envy
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:19:53
what was that show that had all the possible end-of-the-world scenarios on it. It was on in the last couple of years. docu-drama kind of thing. they did one on these idiots. Probably will be jerking off while the world EXPLODES
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Kewcumber on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:18:51
"I have a trip to Ikea planned in a few weeks" - the end of the world seems a fairly reasonble price to pay in exchange for getting out of a trip to IKEA.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:18:35
who knows maybe THIS is how the universe started in the first place.

But it isn't the FIRST universe, it's the 500th because we just keep blowing it up again and again.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By oops on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:17:34
have been intruged by cern for as long as i have known about it-
i think ken campbell did a fab programme about it a few yrs ago- very very interesting
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:17:20
wonders if I should keep boys home from school.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:17:11
Yes MP that would be my fear too, lack of Ikeas in black holes.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Anifrangapani on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:15:58
I wish I had thought of that slur. My evil streak only came out in later life. Something to do with pregnancy hormones I think.

BALD So long as you don't feel the need to shag my dh like one of my friends wink
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:15:56
Setember 10th.

you don't have long Kerry.


Hurumph angry
<narrows eyes @ Boys>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By morningpaper on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:15:14
I will be gutted if this happens becuase I have a trip to Ikea planned in a few weeks
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:14:43
am thinking a mountain is not going to contain a BIG BANG.

Feckin idiots and their experiments.

What could go wrong? Hum, the earth could explode?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By NomDePlume on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:14:05
ROFFLE Kerrymum
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By morningpaper on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:13:43
didn't you just want to press the button and then pretend your finger was stuck and convulse screaming hysterically
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By KerryMum on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:12:52
you know these people are maniacs don't you?

what's the exact date so I can bend over and kiss my ass goodbye
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By BoysAreLikeDogs on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:11:36
Ani, will you be my New Best Friend??

(See am cultivating you)

grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:09:45
Oooh I have new respect for Ani, you got to press the button. That is pretty cool.

Were you tempted to take a balloon and pop it just as button was pressed? Just to keep everyone on their toes?

<contemplates whether big bang may have sounded like a balloon popping..>

<<Considers whether big bang would make any sound>>>

<<<head spins slightly and fizzes a bit>>>
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Anifrangapani on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:07:20
That should be hmm

And I AM cultivated. In the way a mould is cultivated grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Anifrangapani on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:05:28
It was so fun...I got to press the button ( well the return key on a computer) that sent a neutrino into an electron..... then all the monitors went a bit weird ( think very large magnet on your TV weird), every one got excited except me and then it was upstairs to the bar.

Shame I had to be going out with a total jerk to get the gig [hmn]
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By PortBlacksandResident on Mon 01-Sep-08 22:01:26
Well there has been an actual star been going in the basement of Imperial College, London for years now. [Urban Myth Emoticon].
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Mon 01-Sep-08 21:59:35
oooh envy too, it could be a remarkable advance in scientific knowledge, or it could be like a year 9 science lesson and just fizz a bit.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By BoysAreLikeDogs on Mon 01-Sep-08 21:58:53
Ani I am going to cultivate you like mad

grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Mon 01-Sep-08 21:57:46
It is fascinating and only ever so slightly like a premise for a disaster movie.

(and Torchwood are doing a special episode around it)
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By littlelapin on Mon 01-Sep-08 21:57:15
Anifrangapani envy noooo, really?!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By littlelapin on Mon 01-Sep-08 21:56:56
Actually, not in a mountain, in a mahoooosive great circular tunnel under both France AND Switzerland <nerd alert> grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Anifrangapani on Mon 01-Sep-08 21:56:52
I have been to CERN to see the colliders and they are so cool grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By littlelapin on Mon 01-Sep-08 21:55:39
It sounds fascinating, have you read about it?

"When activated, it is theorized that the collider will produce the elusive Higgs boson, the observation of which could confirm the predictions and "missing links" in the Standard Model of physics and could explain how other elementary particles acquire properties such as mass. The verification of the existence of the Higgs boson would be a significant step in the search for a Grand Unified Theory, which seeks to unify three of the four known fundamental forces: electromagnetism, the strong nuclear force and the weak nuclear force, leaving out only gravity. The Higgs boson may also help to explain why gravitation is so weak compared to the other three forces. In addition to the Higgs boson, other theorized novel particles that might be produced, and for which searches[7] are planned, include strangelets, micro black holes, magnetic monopoles and supersymmetric particles."

Cooooool! AND it's like, inside a mountain! Like a Bond villian's lair!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By BoysAreLikeDogs on Mon 01-Sep-08 21:55:19
grin at x thread

Like the x files here tonight

<<lights fag, swigs cooking sherry, gobbles choc>>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Bowddee on Mon 01-Sep-08 21:54:11
There's another thread on this. I'd prefer them to pull the trigger on the 9th as I don't want to go back to work (I'm due back on the 10th).
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By footballsgalore on Mon 01-Sep-08 21:53:27
Hope they're not doing it in my back garden
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Mon 01-Sep-08 21:53:15
xthreads going on a bit..
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Slur on Mon 01-Sep-08 21:50:03
only a wee bit nervous.

So the Large Hadron Collider gets switched on in 9 days....

Science aim to recreate the conditions of the big bang.

Now come on, nothing can go wrong with that plan right? grin

Anyone worried? hmm

Disclaimer: don't be scared, dp says its all been risk assessed and there is No Need to Panic. And he is a scientist so he is mad knows.


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