Hey Herby, glad to hear your appointment is tomorrow. Where are you going? Ours was today. How is the new job going?
Nomore sorry to hear DH is away during the week, I remember when my DH had to do lots of nights away and I hated it. Good to hear you are giving Clomid another go – are you being monitored this time? Best of luck!!
Rah, hang on in there. The feeling of being cheated and emptiness subsides but it messes up with your head big time. My first period after the MC was really heavy so ask to be scanned before you start down regging again just to ensure the womb lining is back to normal. Sounds like you are in good hands with your docs. Yes we will have our IVF babies – lets face it ain’t going to happen any other way at this rate!!!!!! Mine is going to be born with a stamp on its bottom reading ‘Made at Hammersmith Hospital, London’
Had our first IVF appointment at the today. Had to wait an hour for a 20 min appointment There was a couple obviously trying IVF for a second time after having twins in the waiting room. I normally love twins but these girls were creepy - 6 yrs old and identically dressed, they just stared at all everyone in unison.
Basically we went through the normal questions - how long have we been trying, past pg etc.. Also how I have reacted to IUI – I told her I tend to over stimulate on clomid so I may not need any injections for IVF – Ha here’s hoping. They will now submit the funding application to Islington PCT and I'll get a letter when we can start. It'll be in the new year at the earliest and its a good thing that we have been doing IUI as all the boring tests have been done so we are ready to go as soon as the funding is through. At this rate we'll be cycle buddies Nomore . NHS does not take the embie to blastocycst stage which is a pity given the success rates but will do ICSI if necessary depending on the sperm sample. If we have any viable embies after they put two back we would have to freeze them at our own expense.
The idea to do one cycle privately whilst waiting is on ice (excuse the pun) for many reasons – worried that it will make us ineligible for NHS funded cycles, I’ve only been in my job for two months and guess what muppets have their savings account and ISAs with ICESAVE? Needless to say we have less than the £50k govt assured level which is good as we know we will get everything back but it could be 3-4 mths before we see our money again. We are also trying to see if we can buy a house without selling in Newcastle. At the moment we can negotiate prices down and my in laws would help with the deposit but sellers are not budging from their asking price even in the current climate
I'm still here, lurking away. Got my first appointment at IVF clinic tomorrow, so will have to write a mumsnet-style list of questions. To add to the stress, I sprained my ankle today, so getting to the clinic is going to be tricky.
Had a dirty weekend in Brighton, around ov time, and we managed to do it SIX TIMES! Surely a record. There's something about hotel rooms that get you going, aren't there. And now a new crazy symptom - a red blob of blood in pants this morning, but no trace in my hoohah. Implantation bleeding? Imminent death? Who knows...
Hi both I'm still lurking but with DH away M-F at the moment the ttc is rather hit and miss! Have started taking Clomid again as we won't be in a position to do IVF until April 09. I don't think the Clomid will work, but the IVF doc said it wouldn't do any harm to try it in the meantime.
Gilly - More than likely it contributed to Bertie's prem birth as it was to do with the excess bleeding that ruptured my membranes so early. SO if they can help the bleeding not progress into clots then I'm sure we could get further. Its strange as the blood tests show my blood to be thin, but in pregnancy it bleeds excessively but also clots excessively, so its like the clotting reacts to the bleeds. Which is strange...I think... but your blood changes in pregnancy. So the concern is not so much bleeding its the clots that caused all the problems as it caused issues with the placenta etc.. So although it says not to use blood thinners with what is showing up in my blood, they think blood thinners would help. So will just have to trust them.
I'm on day21 since the MC and dont think I've ovulated yet. GRRR but she did say up to 6 weeks. I'm then starting my IVF drugs on day 21 on that cycle.
Gilly your so right about the short notice. I found it so hard with IUI, especially when my poxy eggs where so different every month. We did 5 months in the end and only managed 3 cycles. IVF is so much more structured and precise as they use all the drugs and basically take the eggs and then put them back in. The most stressful time really is finding out how the eggs are developing and if they are any good.. etc..Well from other people telling me anyway... as obviously not experienced it for myself yet. Well we can be IVF buddies...WOOOHOOO
Your so right about M/C, it is hurtful and painful and I find it so hard that you have nothing... least with Bertie I had him and I have all his things that he used etc... but with this M/C its just emptiness. Basically you feel like you just have to move on...and quickly.. I;m trying to stay positive though, but must admit this week has been a struggle and been feeling some anxiety about the whole thing.
Anyway... hello to everyone else... what has happened to our thread... everyone is too busy! Lots of love Rah Xxx
Rah part if me is really sad that they have found this as it is yet another cross to bear but at the same time I am pleased that it has happened now and that you can be treated. Could this have been the cause of Bertie’s premie birth? Don’t google too much or it will drive you insane. Trust the medics and inform yourself enough to able to question them and be reassured of the course of action to take together but don’t do a me and diagnose yourself with everything under the sun because of a case you have read on netdoctor! Glad you spoke to the MC nurse too. Have those hormones gone down now? It adds insult to injury when you have pg symptoms but know everything is over . Two years on and I still feel the hurt sometimes . Did she say that your periods may be a little wild over the next couple of cycles? Hopefully not too much and you can start IVF really soon. I would have understood if you just wanted to take a break from all of this but after a mc, when your mind and body are aching to be pg again even more than usual, it is good to have something so definite in the horizon.
I finally got through to the clinic to tell them about my BFN – you speak to the answer machine all the time but they never seize to amaze me and return calls and especially this time to commiserate with me that it didn’t work given DH’s sample. They are so nice. The one thing I have found stressful with IUI is the short notice to take a day off (less than 24hrs) esp when no-one at work knows why I need the time off just like that and also the inflexibility in terms of when DH can provide his sample. They only take samples after 11am and can only fit one person per hour. They will not keep it in the incubator if there is a time lapse between sample prep and IUI and it means we are running around two different places in Bloomsbury like idiots providing samples and timing prep to perfection before I am being called to IUI. At least with IVF I will have to come clean at work, I hope the likely dates for egg collection etc will be a bit more fixed and the Hammersmith opens at 7:30am for appointments before work so at least I don’t; have to take loads of time off. I hope I don’t get to that though but it is looking increasingly likely that it will be IVF now. Wish me luck for Wednesday.
Oh Gilly.... so sorry {{{HUGS}}} I found IUI really hard work... its so hit and miss. I am a lot more positive about IVF.
Well went to my appointment yesterday and have agreed to start IVF after my next period... so just need to wait for that. MC nurse told me it should be 4-6 weeks, so lets hope my body kicks back into shape. He has also agreed to put me on heparin and aspirin. But things are getting a bit complicated as they have found the following so far and they just don't know the implications on pregnancy, obviously something is causing my problems...
so yesterday after seeing the hematologist in Aug who did some specialist tests they found low Von Willebrand's and consistent low platelets and packed cells.. all have come back below normal. Plus they found a abnormal level for IGa which is an immune disorder.
But the Von Willebrand's has the following symptoms... which totally fit, as the bruising etc is why I was referred to a hematologist, plus I have suffered so bad from nose bleeds. * Easy bruising * Frequent nose bleeds * Bleeding from wounds that takes longer than normal to stop * Excessive bleeding when teeth fall out * Heavy or prolonged periods * Bleeding from the gut or bowel * Bleeding into muscles and joints in more severe cases
BUT the consultant was unsure on the effects of pregnancy with any of what they have found, so he is finding out if we need any more med's whilst pregnant.
Hi Rah thank you for asking after me. It was a BFN yesterday and AF appeared on cue. Gutted given DH's excellent sperm count. One last go at IUI in Nov now. We have our initial consultation for IVF next Wednesday too so hopefully we can at least get cracking on that. Having a crap time at work though and I am mega stressed about budgets and a major project which will become my millstone until next July. What I wouldn’t give for a pregnancy!
Oh Rah I'm really sorry to see your sad news - I was soo hoping that it was one of those miracle stories etc etc... Thinking of you- take care and don't lose heart it will all work out for the best in the end.. {{{hugs}}}
Thanks Gilly. I know it will be tough finally getting that BFN again, due to test again on Fri. My body is throwing out half symptoms still , if that makes sense. I went for a drink last night with a friend and I had a sneaky cig and started heaving and been feeling quite sick recently. But I know in my head I'm not pregnant... but it is a confusing time with all those hormones. I'm dreading my first period, but I think that is due to how I felt last time when we lost Bertie. Nothing feels anywhere near as bad as when we lost him. Don't get me wrong this M/C still hurts and it putting so much doubt in my head, but I can still function at least and back at work!
Anyway on that note I better get some work done. XX
A website all of our own would be great herbaceous.. I would be up for that. We could have a tick list of all the things people can do without children
Hope everyone is OK and thanks for your messages of support XX
Oh Rah. I am sorry. It's SO gutting, isn't it, however much you try not to get excited. Do keep going if you can bear it. I want to keep seeing you around!
I was just thinking that if the worst happens to any/all of us, and we don't get our longed-for babies, it would be really nice to still be able to support each other in our child-free state, in a world of families. There doesn't seem to be much on the interweb for such people as us. Maybe I should start a website!
Hiya LLL I was only thinking about you the other day - how are you?? Lovely to 'see' you KD We had one go at IVF on the NHS and it all went textbook but unfortunately didn't get pg from it. Once the embryos are back in safely then there's little they/we can do to affect the outcome However, I think I may have persuaded DH to accept some money from my parents (as an advance on my inheritance rather than a gift or loan) so we might be able to have another go sometime soon <fingers crossed>
I am so so sorry. I remember so very clearly my earlier miscarriages and how gutted I was, so my heart goes out to you and Mr Rah. Look after each other and know that I will be thinking of you at this horrible time.
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I am sorry to hear of your predicament and can't believe the situation to which you find yourself. How many attempts at IVF have you had and how far did you get with them? I'll be hoping for a miracle / lottery win for you
Oh Rah, I still lurk on this thread after all the great support you gave me earlier in the year. I just wanted to say how sorry I am. LOts of love x (scared1976)
Just a quick update, ended up in hospital yesterday with bleeding and cramping. I had a scan and there was nothing viable left and they diagnoised a M/C. Basically by the time I got seen most of it was just floating around in the womb. So gutted we did not get to see anything at all.
Anyway its being a very hard time and has brought back a lot of feeling about losing our son.
I suppose at some time we will have to get back on the TTC wagon... but secretly I was getting very excited that maybe something would work out for us. But it was obviously not meant to be.
Before I get worried I'm going to slit my wrists, I will get off.(don't worry, I'm not considering that)
Lots of love to everyone and thanks for your support.
Thanks guys for your messages. Well I have one week to go before my scan, so will be very nervous by then. Gilly I have everything crossed for you. Good sizes on your eggs! Amazing that they reduced the dose... you must have good producing eggs normally! WELLDONE to your hubbie's soldiers! WOOOO HOOOO for being promoted to Marines!
Goodness Rah! I’ll add my whispered congratulations too. Sooo understand why you are being cautious, it must take a lot to get your head round this so I have everything crossed for you next week. You are going down as a post it note on St Gerrad !! Good news that DH is on the mend too, that must have been a shock too – sending lots and lots of hugs your way, you are one strong lady .
Evergrounded it is really tough to see pregnant women and newborn. Our time will come
Hi KD and Nomore
Herby how are things?
Thanks for asking about IUI, it happened today . Got scanned yesterday and I had 3 follicles weighing in at 21, 20 and 18 mm so they triggered ovulation. Seems that 25mg of Clomid is the ideal dosage for me. As usual DH having to produce the sample was at the most inconvenient time possible, he had to send staff to pitch for a new project in Norwich when he should have done it himself so fingers crossed IUI works and they get the work!
Can I also add how proud I am of DH. His sperm count is normally not brilliant with progression and motility being low. Today progression was still average but this time motility was 65% before preparation and 97% afterwards. Even if it doesn’t work this is real progress as he feels bad about the male factor infertility diagnosis.
Further news is that we have been referred to the Hammersmith for IVF and we should have seen the consultant for the initial consultation tomorrow. I couldn’t get my head around it happening so soon on top of IUI the day before and DH couldn’t make it so I have delayed it to the 8th Oct. I reckon IVF would be happening in March 09 if IUI doesn’t work (and I have a third cycle to go).
Rah Wow - what a few weeks you must have had! <whispered> congratulations! Really hope it's viable and totally understand that you may be quiet for a bit. Best wishes and lots of prayers for this little tiny bean.
Hubbie is doing really well and is going back to work next week. I think I might sell my story to one of those trashy magazines... I bet they will not b able to believe all of our drama's.
Well I have some news, but have not had everything confirmed yet. I was taking my sniff's for IVF from the 28th August but last week felt very hormonal and before my base line scan you need to have a bleed. Well I went to my acupuncturist and she did not bring on a bleed and just decided to do a test and got a positive. The clinic are being a bit skeptical as I was on my nasal spray for two weeks and that reduces your lining in your womb. So I have a scan booked in next week to confirm viability. So fingers crossed. I should not really be saying anything as not told my family and friends and although I have got 4 positive tests now everyone is being very cautious, the clinic made me take another test this week and my GP did one too. So I will probably be very quiet for a week or so until we find out if everything is in the right place and we are defo pregnant.
Hope everyone is ok and not working too hard. Gilly how has the IUI gone this month? Anyone got any updates on their treatment/appointments?
Rah not much of a relaxing holiday for you there!! Glad your DH is on the mend - what a horribly scary time. I'm a bit perplexed today as my period has arrive much earlier than expected - my cycle is usually 30/1 days but this cycle was only 26 days [confused]
Hi Gilly - hope the scan goes well today! Fingers crossed for IUI this cycle.
Rah - that sounds like a crazy week for you and your DH! I'm glad it wasn't more serious.
I'm doing fine. Not really thinking too much about TTC at the moment because there's a lot of other stuff going on. I saw a friend's newborn last week and he was lovely and I wanted one . I'm sure we'll have one at some point but I hope it's not too long to wait!
HI all Just a quick message to say back off holiday... Italy was great but my hubbie has been really ill and I ended up taking him to the hospital on Wed after getting off the airplane, where we found out he had a bacteria infection that caused his epiglottis to swell in the back of his throat and he could not swallow, eat and was having trouble breathing. Was a nightmare and he was taken straight into recuse. But they got everything under control and he was sent to a ward after about 6hrs. He was then kept in hospital on IV anti-b's and oxygen, but is now out!!! YAY!!! He has been signed off work for 2 weeks (so will be under my feet) and will be doing his dying duck act. God he is a typical man with man flu! But soooooo glad he is alive I also went to the doctors this morning to make sure his sperm was still up for the job with the IVF and she said it would be fine... PHEW!
Anyway enough about ME ME ME (as usual)
Congratulations evergrounded!! WOOHOO
gilly - how did your scan go yesterday?
nomoremagnolia - I know I can't beleive there has been so little posts in my absence.. what is going on with everyone!
Hope everyone is well that I have missed off and howdy! Sorry got to get on with some work ASAP
Hi there! Sorry I seem to have fallen off the face of the earth but my new job is very busy and I really should be working on budgets and training schedules right now instead of being on MN and making soup – ho hum!
Evergrounded – many, many congratulations!!!!
KD – glad things are going well for you and bean. Your post-it note is still on my St Gerard
Nomore, how are you? Any news on the docs re: trying naturally before your next IVF?
Rah, hope you are having a great holiday!
Eachpeach – how are you
Herby, I feel for you – office politics suck and even though I have a small team (7 people) they are spilt over two sites and the amount of work to bring everything up to scratch is overwhelming. They have been without a manager since the turn of the year and some have gone a bit ‘native’ . The offer to meet up and moan still stands even if we do work at opposite ends of London. Sorry to hear you are so down about TTC
Ready where are you? I’ve emailed
Got scan tomorrow for my second try at IUI. They gave me two months after over stimulating last time for everything to go back to normal before starting again. Tomorrow they want to check if the Clomid caused any cysts . If everything is OK we’ll do IUI the week after. We have also been referred to the Hammersmith for IVF but haven’t got an appointment yet.
Evergrounded I am so pleased for you. Take it easy and I wish you all the luck with your pg
Rah Hope you have a lovely holiday [smile}
Herb I hope the job is getting better, give yourself time and it will get easier and one day you'll realise you've turned a corner. I remember very well feeling jealous of others success
Gilly Hows your job going?
I am doing well, I am getting erm big and can now feel movements!
Hello ladies- have been lurking for a while and not posting as was struggling with the whole TTC thing, but to everyone who knows my situation (18 months TTC, had all tests done, all came back 'normal', had HyCoSy last month), I just got my BFP yesterday! Aaagh! I am in total shock, I dont really think it has sunk in yet to be honest.
just wanted to say thank you to all of you who have offered me support and advice, in particular KD73.
Ohhhhh herby... New jobs are a nightmare but you will settle into it. They would never of given you the post if you were not capable. Just be patient and you will find your own way and get to know the staff and sort out the politics, just what you bloody need!
In regards to your friend that is just pregnant, I don't know what to say. Its just gutting really that someone can try on their first go and bingo.... but at the same time you want to be happy for them. Its just personal disappointment that you can't achieve the one thing that you want. Over the last 4 years of TTC and losing Bertie it has brought out feelings I never knew I was capable of. I am bitter sometimes and that hurts just knowing I'm being like that, but the intensity of my feelings are so great, I can't stop the hurt flooding in. So BIG HUGS, know how you feel, as does everyone else on this thread. We are all here for you. Lots of love and chin up... RAH XX
To the rest of you., hope all is well. I'm off on my holidays so I will catch up with you all on my return. Lots of love 'THE RAH'
Haven't been MNing, as in new job. Which, frankly, is a nightmare. LOADS to learn, all manner of politics going on... I feel totally out of my depth. I can't sleep with worrying about it - woke up at 2am last night, and didn't go back to sleep properly - which doesn't help.
AND the friend I told you about who's a lesbian and has had IVF with donor sperm.... well, it worked. She's up the duff. She's just told me, by text, thankfully, and I nearly fainted. I feel dreadful - sick, sweaty, tearful. I though it had stopped mattering so much to me.
AND my acupuncturist had said at my last session that my 'pulses' felt pregnant, so that got me all hopeful. Then my period was two days late, so maybe I was, but am not any more.
Gilly - glad you got through your first day OK... probably not a good idea to start logging onto MN on your first day... LOL I probably meant behave yourself as your starting a new job where your the boss etc.... Who knows??? I write strange things at times....
Rah great news about having dates for IVF. I agree about enjoying yourself with a few glasses of vino before though. It will all be worth it in the end. What did you mean about behaving myself? Not logging on to MN during work time or announcing I was pg on my first day ? I am not pg btw, that would have gone down like a lead balloon I can tell you!
Ready, sorry to hear that you are so busy but I am glad to hear that you are finding the job challenging. It sucks not being able to spend more time on MN doesn't it?
KD congratulations on the scan. No soft markers is great news. I know you never relax in pregnancy but try to look after yourself and enjoy the preparations for your little one
CD2 for me. I know I should not have been bothered about AF as the IUI got cancelled but I am a bit to say that we decided to go against medical advice and gave this last cycle our best try. We felt that ovulating up to five eggs was too good to be true given DH’s weak sperm count. We said we would deal with the consequences (good or bad) whatever they were should they happen. Still, it didn’t work which proves that its assisted conception all the way for us now.
Thanks for all your nice messages about my new job. First day today and must admit I resemble a rabbit in headlights as there is so much to take in and I don’t know where to start. Its going to be a definite challenge but my team seem nice. Does anyone remember the IBM advert a few years back where everyone is sitting round a large meeting table and the director is outlining everything that is going wrong with their systems, websites etc..? Then she asks ‘and who is responsible for this?’ Everyone turns around and says ‘you’. That is how I feel! For the first time ever I don’t have anyone else sorting things out above me. The buck stops with me and it is blooming scary !!!!
I'm shattered I went out on a school night and been hideous all day.WHOOPS>
When I went the clinic the nurse was quite firm on me not drinking whilst doing IVF, so I need to get in a few before giving up... (hopefully for 9months
Gilly, how was your last day? Good luck next week - you will be amazing!! Go get em!
Congrats lulu, lovely news
How is everyone else? I have been super busy with work, which is ironic considering my first few weeks there I was wondering how much of a challenge it would be. It has calmed down a bit today, but I think it is certainly going to have challenges that I can find for myself
Fab news KD.... I always considered the markers to be the most important thing.....My personal choice was not even to have the blood tests for DS etc... let alone amnio... Know too many people that have got stressed out by the results for no reason and ended up having amnio's etc... so stressful.
Good news... no great news although still high risk for down syndrome baby, no other markers seen and pregnancy seems to now be progressing normally AND the dentist fixed my tooth today.
I so hope you ladies can join me in the "agonies" and "joy" of pg soon - you've been a complete life line to me. Thank you.
kd - OMG your 21 weeks already.... WOOOHOOOO Have you had your scan yet? Thinking of you and positive results XX
Lulu - many congratulations.. woo 28 weeks...fab news!!
Gilly - best of luck in your new job and your first day... NOW BEHAVE YOURSELF!
nomoremagnolia - your so funny!!! My cat this morning has a big king sized bed to hide under but did not quite make it and his bum was sticking out... must be all those crisps... LOL
Ready - Hows it going Chick... I will email you later...tell you all about my time looking after my friends DS... it has made me wonder if kids are a bit too much hard work! but when he was not causing havoc he is just so funny and adorable... ARRRR
herbaceous - have you started your new job yet?
Hello to anyone else...
Anyway my news is....... drum roll..... Went to the clinic yesterday and start my sniffing on approx 28th August so will do egg transfer sept and should get a gleaming positive by end of sept... IT WILL WORK.. (Do you like my new positive mental attitude??) So excited....
Juat wanted to pop in and say hello (I've been lurking, but not posting). I was part of this thread a little while ago after close to two year TTC (mmc at 13 weeks in between). I sloped away when I got a surprising BFP. I am now 27 weeks and all going well. I just wanted to say thank you to all of you for your support and say I'll be keeping an eye on things.
KD- good luck with the scan- I'm sorry you are having a touch time.
Sorry to rant but the sex ban continues, I didn't get to see Mamma Mia as all 3 local cinemas were fully booked by the time I arrived (approx 1 hr before showtime) and having spent the weekend before last at the emergency dentist having a tooth removed, I have broke another one today . Can life get much better?????
On the positive, yes I am now in maternity clothes which is based largely on "oh will that fit" as opposed to "do you think this is nice?", none of my shoes fit and my feet and ankles look somewhat freakish...
Finally, I have my 21 wk scan this week and frankly I am petrified of the results particularly as the 12 wk scan came back with an elevated risk of downs syndrome.
I wish I was either brave enough to deal with all of the above or simply someone else...
Its not the one on the special diet, however he has probably eaten most of the other cats 'special' food as he's like a bloody dustbin
I have a ginger cat called TC (he is the special one!
and another younger cat called Jak. He is a pest and follows us everywhere and starts from the moment we get up. He also loves to cuddle up to TC...but not sure if TC likes it but he's given in and Jak just puts his arm round TC's neck so he can't get away.... ARRRR (poor TC, no wonder he is special!)
I'm sat here with my cat eating a packet of sour cream and chive crisps and I have to share them with him ... he has enjoyed them so much he has dribbled on my laptop...
I'm dying for a shag too... DH has been too stressed for shagging . I found when I was pregnant and could not have sex I was dreaming about it and thinking about sex... and I'm not normally like that at all.... I think when you can't have it, it makes you want it.
I went to see Mamma Mia the other day,,, it was brill... so funny.
Have fun and I hope expectant motherhood starts feeling a bit better soon. I know I felt much better about 16 weeks and I started to be able to show my bump off. Are you in maternity clothes yet?
Thanks Gilly... it defo is.. thats it the wheel has begun and it can't stop now. In all honesty I think the judge must of taken pity on DH as the solicitor wrote all about his stresses, including IVF and losing Bertie.... He must of even felt bad giving him 3 points after reading about how shit our lives have been for the past couple of years. I was also going to write last week to add in he had been put at risk of redundancy, but I thought they had enough to read
Sorry, I've been lurking but not posting. Kind of feel abit out of sorts really as not TTC anymore (infact more gagging for a shag!) but don't feel like the "fantastic expectant mother" either.
Anyway good to hear everyone's spirits are high, Mr Rah got away with a slapped wrist and Herb has a new job to concentrate on. All is good
I'm off to the cinema now to see Mamma Mia, so apologies to all those that I think off, but haven't mentioned.
He had the occasional freebie but unfortunately never the fun. He was made redundant from one of the jobs and got into money problems, took the next job he could find only to be threatened with redundancy again!
I remember those panic attacks at 3am well. Luckily I have them under control now but last Oct/Nov they were really bad and mixed up with the 'I am in a crap job which is killing me' too.
I have been sleeping rather soundly for a few months now (unusual for me) but I know that as soon as I start the new job I'll be worried about visitor figures, cultural strategies and forthcoming exhibitions!
Did anyone watch the Don't Die Young programme last night? They did the male and female reproductive system and showed what it would take to make a baby. Barely 10 sperm actually get to the egg and of course it only takes one to fertilise it. Its a wonder that anyone gets pregnant!
It is a notoriously badly paid profession for the amount of work and responsibility. But it's fun, and the occasional freebie trip and having your name in lights seems to make up for it!
I met up with new boss last night, and now I'm scared! But at least it's taking my mind off FTC: now, when I wake up in the night instead of thinking 'OMG I haven't got a baby and I'm really old and I'm going to die of loneliness', I think 'OMG how the hell am I going to manage this new job'!
Herby you would have been surprised of the mags I have heard about since BIL was in the magazine editor world a few years back . He was terribly paid for taking the whole thing forward and he lacked the confidence to get jobs where they didn’t mess him around. We have been through a bride magazine, business ones, a power one and my fave was a recycling one. We learnt a lot about what happens to wire hangers and paper clips! He got so disappointed with the whole thing that he quit, travelled the world for a year and is now a PA in the NHS!
Gilly... I'll have to keep you in suspenders for a while longer (as I'm not sure the staff of the mag know the editor is changing and I wouldn't like it to come out via mumsnet!) but it's more crafty than gossipy. It's a little bit home improvement, little bit DIY, little bit building... You're not all that likely to have heard of it, to be honest.
Oh, and it's not Razzle. Or Fiesta. Or, for that matter, Knave.
Thanks Gilly .. To be honest he should just behave himself and then things like this would not happen. Its common sense really... which he lacks in big time! I don't think he can feel any worse that he already does though!
Unfortunately Gilly (although really good idea)DH did not stick around to talk to any one.. he was slightly embarrassed by being arrested... something that has never happened to him before! luckily one of our friends/neighbors were there and they saw the whole thing and can confirm where his location was when he turned round, something the police man could not confirm as he did not see, but speculated on where he had come from as he advised the courts that he had calls from other car users that people were driving the whole length of the slip road the wrong way. DH only did two car lengths! TYPICAL!!! but they always take the word of the police man! The police man obviously was in a determined mood, mainly because a week before my DH being an idiot there was lots of deaths in the area on the roads, including one man that wiped out 6 people and seriously injured two children over taking... so I can see why he was being hard... it must be a hard job seeing people dying for no reason, especially children. So I see it from both sides, but I do think its about balance and not being excessive!
Anyway I am soooooo nervous I have phoned the courts 2 times already but his case has not been heard.... GOD for once please let us not have to take the HARD lesson!
((((Rah)))) I didn't know it was illegal to do a 3-point turn and when the road was closed anyway?? At a loss to explain how frustrated I feel for your DH
Rah it horrible about that driving offence. Have all the people who were done at the same time had a chance to talk together and put a group as well as an individual case forward? Strength in numbers and all that?
I start my new job on the 11th August, our appointment with the consultant and scan is on the 13th August and on the 15th August we go to the Edinburgh festival . I would be a good manager if I was ever in the office!!
Thank you for your very kind words Ready, I am very . I would love to have someone as happy, optimistic and multi talented as you on my team . You are doing a creative writing course - is there anything you don't do girl? You really put me to shame
I too am intrigued as to what magazine you will edit Herby. I don't think it will be a gossip or a crafty one so at the moment I am between The Economist, Marie Claire and Conde Nast . Am I close?
Mine was a bit of a blur as drank Fri, Sat and Sun and recovered yesterday...
Well there is no chance of BFP for me this month as we had no sex.. unless god has blessed us with a miracle baby, which is highly unlikely with our luck . Hubbie has been too stressed for hanky panky... GRRRR MEN!
Ready - hope your not too busy at work
Nomore - Yep it was not a naughty driving offence but believe it or not it holds a higher penalty than drink driving! The officer is trying to prosecute him for dangerous driving, which also holds a custodial sentence, but obviously that would be worst case scenario and I don't think they could send someone to prision for a bad three point turn! The police man was just doing his job, but extremely excessively and the whole thing has caused us both so much more extra stress, on top of everything else. But our solicitor has written to the magistrates with all our mitigating circumstances and basically it was just a one off stupid mistake, which it was. He has totally learned his lesson and would never do anything like that again, but if it goes badly in court we could lose his job, our house etc.... for one really stupid mistake that he did not know was against the law. There was lots of other people doing it as well, so I don't think he will be the only one done. I spoke to a barrister and he said the whole driving thing has gone crazy and it holds the highest prosecution rates and revenue as the targets for prosecution are all employed people who need their cars for work and will pay high fines to prevent lose off their jobs. Basically they have you by the short and curlies... RANT over! But last word on the matter is that it sums this country up! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I should of just had a baby at 15, lived off the council and claimed benefit and did what I wanted and did not care about the law... then maybe I would have 5 kids by now!
Well hello to everyone.. when are all the new jobs starting?
Gilly is it this week you are going to your consultants?
So much catching up to do… I’m sorry I have not been about much lately, I have been busy with work, which is good because I was worried that it wouldn’t be challenging enough. My concern is that it’s only busy because people are off sick/on holiday – but I am not going to worry about that now, but enjoy being busy, busy, busy!!
So how is everyone doing? How great is the weather?
Herbaceous, congratulations on your new job!! Perhaps this is the start of a wonderful run of good luck for you? – Very intrigued as to which magazine… do you accept copy from freelance writers? I am doing a creative writing course at the moment, and it would be totally freaky if I will be sending manuscripts to you in the future. Eek. Not sure what to tell you about your periods really, in my experience, as I have got older, my periods have got shorter – but my mum said that the same happened to her, and it seems to be normal for some people. I usually have a couple of days of full on bleeding, then it slows down to light flow for the last 2-3 days, sometimes not a great deal.
EachPeach, how are you flower? I hope you had a lovely holiday? When do you see your gp? It’s great that your dh wants to go with you My PCT only offers IVF, as a rule, it offers IUI in cases where patients have a strong issue with IVF, so it is something to think about. The only problem with that is, if I push for IUI because of an IVF phobia, I doubt that they would then let me go on to have IVF if IUI failed. Time is on our side though, we don’t have to make any decisions yet.
Nomore, big hugs chick! How are you feeling? Please don’t give up. You just don’t know what life is going to throw at you next. I totally understand what you mean about the cost of IVF. That is something that I often think, it’s a hell of a lot of money for something that has such a low % of working – it is hard to swallow. Me personally, I am not sure I would be willing to pay for IVF privately. I might feel differently when the time comes, but right now, I don’t think I could. How much is IUI?
Rah, oh babe, it breaks my heart to see all the in your posts. I really hope that we all get our babies soon, we certainly deserve it. I hope that your IVF in September is a huge success – it has to be!! Make sure that you are mentally prepared for it, just forget about everything and everyone else when you are going through the treatment and just focus on the goal of Baby Rah. I know that things are not proving easy for you and dh at the moment, but just remember you have each other, and that is the most important thing! Hang in there
Gilly, I am sorry that you overproduced eggs, and the cycle got cancelled - how are you doing? It’s good that your consultant is so thorough though, and good news about the good ovarian reserve. When do you start your new job? All the best for that chick! I just know that you will be a great manager of your staff. I’d love to work for you! I always think that working for crappy managers makes you a better worker, and it will definitely make you a better manager! Of course we know that you don’t begrudge others their pregnancies/babies, we get where you are coming from. Don’t beat yourself up for having mixed feelings.
Coggy, if you are lurking, hope you are well. Hope you had a fantastic holiday.
Has anyone heard from Chocolatedays, I am pretty sure she was due a week or two ago… and I really hope that all is well with her and baby choc.
Evergrounded and Lottie, Rattling, Kd… did we lose you all? How was your hycosy Evergrounded?
There was a couple obviously trying IVF for a second time after having twins in the waiting room. I normally love twins but these girls were creepy - 6 yrs old and identically dressed, they just stared at all everyone in unison. 
. NHS does not take the embie to blastocycst stage which is a pity given the success rates but will do ICSI if necessary depending on the sperm sample. If we have any viable embies after they put two back we would have to freeze them at our own expense.
).... my brain has already turned to mush...
? I am not pg btw, that would have gone down like a lead balloon I can tell you!
to say that we decided to go against medical advice and gave this last cycle our best try. We felt that ovulating up to five eggs was too good to be true given DH’s weak sperm count. We said we would deal with the consequences (good or bad) whatever they were should they happen. Still, it didn’t work which proves that its assisted conception all the way for us now. 
