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Tell me to keep my nose out if you like as I have not suffered recurrent mc's but I don't think it hurts to have one in here too if that's what people want. Not trying to fall out with anyone just a thought.
I think it would be good to have one here, too. Very much to do with conception, after all.
i could even get the ball rolling. Me, 42, four MCs since 2005, one six weeks, two at 11 and one at 13. The last two were chromosonal problems, but I don't know what caused the others. Had all the blood tests done under the sun, and was prescribed steroids by one doctor, who reckoned I had elevated killer cells, though this is a controversial diagnosis and theory.
For some reason feeling quite optimistic, if I ever get up the duff again (a year since last MC) as surely it can't happen to me again. But that's what I thought last time...
tbh, i thought so too. after all, its not all about the mc's.
Im 30, 1 ds who we spent 3y ttc. pretty sure that i had at least 2 early mcs before he was conceived and have since had 7 mc's all between 4 and 7 weeks and 1 ep. no explanation, under LWH now and toying with having NK cells test.
on the verge of giving up but cant seem to take that step.
I'm feeling optimistic too herbaceous. Me: ttc no 1 at 43. Had m/c in March 07 @ 14 weeks, m/c in July 07 @ 8 weeks and m/c Oct 07 @ 6 weeks. Saw Melanie Davies at UCH in Jan and been ttc since as tests all good. Job quite stressful & trying to chill out. Had acupuncture since Oct which has lengthened LP by 1 day. Been recommended Chinese herbs but not sure whether I want these yet. This site has actually been a lifeline for my sanity throughout & been the only real way I have found out anything; had hardly any info from NHS or specialists.
they really do just ice over recurrent mc dont they? at LWH the consultant showed me this chart which said that after 5mc's my odds of having another dc was 71%. I asked if it decreased with subsequent mc's and he ummed and ahed and didnt really answer.
I’m 30 and hubby and I have been ttc for a year and a half now (we have a 4 year old that was conceived the same month I stopped taking the pill) In that year and a half I’ve been pregnant 3 times and still no baby We get pregnant fairly easily but I can’t seem to stay that way. Last summer I was pregnant with twins. I miscarried the first at about 6 weeks and then the second stopped developing at about 11 weeks and I had to have a d&c. Fell pregnant again and had another miscarriage at about 7 weeks – thankfully no d&c needed. Got pregnant for the third time but had to have another d&c at 10 weeks after saw no heart beat and my beta wasn’t at right level and cells not at right size. After the third miscarriage the doctors were finally willing to say there might be a problem and let’s start taking some tests. I did the whole thrombosis/blood clotting set of tests, then the trans-chromosome genetic test (and a few more genetic tests like sma and ms) and they did a hysteroscopy. The doc who did it said there was a small place on one side of the uterine wall that was a bit stuck together but not enough to justify 3 miscarriages – but he opened it anyway. After the hysteroscopy the specialist sat me down and said we’ve now tested for everything we know how to test for. Technically your chances of conceiving and carrying a baby are still about 60% - which is not bad doesn’t sound too brilliant to me. And in his words “we can’t do anything for, go home and try to make a baby. If you do fall pregnant come and see me – not that I’ll be able to do anything then either – but it might make you feel better” And that’s where things stand. With me feeling pretty lost and depressed and stressed – which is not exactly conducive to baby making lissielou – I wonder why our docs quoted such different stats – 71% sounds pretty good…better than the 60% that my doc gave me after my 3 mc’s One of my friends had a beautiful little baby girl yesterday…I’m trying very hard not to think woe is me
hello girls, its really heartbreaking reading some of your stories, I wish you all the luck and success in the world, especially you lissielou, I take my hat off to you, the courage and determination you show after so many miscarriages
I am a very lucky lady, I have 4 beautiful children. I had a mc back in 2000 a blighted ovum, which was discovered at approx 9 & 1/2 weeks. I have also had two recurrent miscarriages 1 in April 07 and 1 in September 07. I am currently pregnant and today am 29 days past ovulation (the last miscarriage happened at 29 days past O)I am still very worried that this bean may not stick and definately wont try again if it doesn't. But as I pointed out before I am lucky to already have 4 children, best wishes to all.X
Lissielou - what's LWH? And what does NK cells testing involve? I'm also O- and hubby is A+ - so I keep having blood tests to make sure I'm not making antibodies vs any babies. The whole thing is driving me quite mad - I used to be able to set my clock by my ms but since I had that first d&c it's been all over the place... Was a few days late this montha and started getting all excited over a false alarm. Even if we do conceive I'm going to be a nervous wreck until I make it to 9months
I have 3 dds. 2 were with a previous partner and i had no problems conceiving or carrying them. DP and I have tried and tried for a baby..and eventually after 4 mcs we were blessed with a little girl nearly three years ago now. Since we had her we have tried and failed to have another 9so far) and have had 2 further mcs...
heidi, LWH is liverpool womens hospital. they have a fab recurrent mc unit. the NK cells test means taking a sample of the endometrial layer and rules out (or in) antibodies attacking the foetus.
bit pissed off today. fed up of everyone else thinking "ooh, shall we have a baby" and bang! and fed up of people asking if we are planning any more.
lissielou - oh hun, I'm so with you on that. Only what's pissed me off especially in the past week is people looking at our dd and saying things like "what - only one - why haven't you/aren't you/don't you want another one" - or "come on, you better hurry up and work on the next one" I know none of the people know we're having problems and it's not intentional. But damn people, talk about salt in the wound.
re. the NK test - why do they need to take a sample from the endometrial for that? Is it becuase you're also RH - ? Becuase I've just been having coombs (sp?) blood tests for that
you also said you had one ep - what's that? seriously, is there a page with acronyms that I was supposed to study?
lol, most of the ancronyms are made up. an ep is an ectopic pregnancy.
the sample shows the level of NK cells more clearly than blood tests. its different to RH bloods because the cells live in the endometrial layer.
i now flit between "we had sex last night, i stuck my bum in the air and my CM was nice and watery, so maybe we'll get a sticky one, eh?" and telling them in graphic detail what we've been through. normally shuts the feckers up!
my 3rd m/c was a suspected ep. at first they couldn't find anything - so they put me in hospital. then they found something small went in and d&c'ed me and said that's that. Then i started getting calls from the hospital saying they tested the stuff they took out and it wasn't what they were wanting - and my beta was about 16 - so they wanted me back in the hospital...they sent me for yet another blood test (when i started all this i was terrified of needles) and my beta had thankfully fallen below 3 and they didn't need to do the whole shove a camera through my bellybutton thing. After all that the docs just said that where ever i had whatever...my body seemed to have taken care of it so i cold go home... I tell, these docs don't exactly inspire confidence I'm starting to think of going in a different direction...going to a tarot card reader and letting her tell me when to shag my poor hubby (who has gotten very good about being woken up in the middle of the night and told to saddle up) or maybe I'll try dancin' nekked out under the stars...chanting something...something fertile - hell, at the moment I'm ready to try anything...can you tell?
loli read a book by Jane Green called babyville pre-ds and in it a woman does a fertility dance and gets her dp to carry juniper berries in his pocket, oh how i laughed...
Can I join too? Hi Lissie we seem to have been on the same thread before...
3 mc - one prior to ds (now 2.10) - turned out to be mp so not allowed to try for dc for a year after treatment stopped - so ds took 6 yrs to eventually arrive after starting to try. 2 mc since - both autumn - 06 and 07 - 06 took a long time to get back to normal and scared s*less that mp coming back - dh put off trying, so quite difficult to ttc without full cooperation. He's not been so bad since last summer, despite mc in Oct.
Recently been referred - had all blood tests done, waiting for the results - appointment April (they took an armful)(mind you, it took 5 attempts to get any from dh )
I think that one of the worst things was that all the other people being treated when I started treatment had children - and some of them thought I did, although that was my first pregnancy and had mc at about 10wks. Also felt that I was a fraud when I was in hospital - as there are only 3 treatment centres in the country, you're in places where most people have fairly drastic (or very/terminal) illness - and there you are looking OK and not having anything apparently physically wrong with you... Although I would be dead by now if I hadn't had the treatment.
So, all this ttc and mc stuff pales into insignificance given I now have one beautiful, delightful ds. Would just really like to have a sibling for him as he is really sweet with younger children, and there would be 'less pressure' on him in terms of needing to be a success etc...
I thought that the want/need for a baby wouldn't be as bad strong this time around since we do already have a dd. But no...want another baby - want one now The man (and it must have been a man) who designed the hospital I go to, is an a$$. The clinic for recurrent mcs and for infertility is right next to the delivery rooms. So while us poor infertile/problematic types wait for our turn to go into the doc we sit and listen to women scream and groaning through contractions and then the occasional scream of a new born baby. um yeah...not too sensitive hey
I'm lucky - I don't find it as bad this time - but I did have to wait for 6 yrs with a lot of heartache for ds, so we were pretty desperate for No1. I'm not saying that I wouldn't really like to have another, but what with the 2mc and the shadow of mp each time it happens, still wonder whether we'd be better just settling for 1. Before ds but after mp episode we'd agreed that, if mp came back we wouldn't try again, but see if we would be accepted to adopt. When you've got that far but still managed to get a dc, you just realise you've got so much to be thankful for. I am very broody and very when I see pregnant people (including our secretary at work) though...
tbh i find it worse this time around. I had a lot of problems when pg with ds and bled from 5w-20w. had numerous scans and so cant think of the beans ive lost as foetuses. because noah was a foetus that size. and i saw him.
I got scan with ds at 6wks and 9wks, so I know where you're coming from. Strong hb at 6wks. At 9 wks really had a jumping bean - which is just what I've got aged 2.10 now... - just can't keep still, breakfast often has to be interrupted so that he can run round the kitchen table several times!
But Lissie - Noah was obviously meant to be, as was ds, despite problems. Since then, we weren't so lucky and beans not 'meant to be' for what ever reason. I know its hard. (((hugs)))
im ok really, doesnt help that my period (refuse to say af... my anuties were all sweet old ladies who didnt make me feel ill and ruin my clothes) is due today and i have no sign of it. not a peep. and i cant bring myself to test...
oh lissie I'm not going to say anything... just send you good vibes
mistlethrush - I can understand your worries that trying for dd2 could jepodise dd1's mum. but what are the chances of having another mp? And if you're aware of the risk and make sure you get checked out the minute you suspect you're preggers... I don't know, I'm bit ignorant when it comes to all this...so maybe I'm wrong?
Like I said earlier - we got pregnant with dd1 with no problems and it was a perfect pregnancy until the end of w36 - she was sitting on the exit and the docs were considering trying to turn her with outside manipulation. During the scans while they were trying to decide whether to try and turn her, they saw she hadn't gained more than 200 grams in the last 3 weeks - and because they thought there could be a problem they whipped her out with a cs. She was 2.3kgs and fine - But now, after the problems ttc dd2 - the docs have been saying it might all be related - how they can't say
I guess I thought ttc dd2 would be as easy as dd1 - and all the drama took me by surprise
Lissie was in a similar situation last autumn (although I ended up on MN to confirm cycle dates ). It's horrid isn't it. And even if you do get bfp, this doesn't guarantee anything.
HeidiS - chances of getting mp to the extent that I did (ie needing treatment other than d&c) is something like 1: 20,000. I think that the chances drop (increase?) to something like 1:200 once you've had it. I know that sounds still quite low, but 1:20,000 is a lot lower and it happened to me, so feels as if its a lot more likely to happen iyswim.
i kind of knowwhat you mean.thats how it is with my ep. I was so sure that it would never happen to me, the odds are slim so when it did and the odds of another one shortened it freakedme out. every pg I have been convinced that its another ep
Lissie - same here, except its when I have mc that I'm sure that will get mp again (particularly after the 1st mc after ds took so long to sort itself out and get hsg levels down) - so instead of 'just' dealing with mc, have sleepless nights worrying about how on earth I'm going to cope with treatment with ds being so lively...
mistlethrush - 1:200 is enough to freak me out. So completely understand your worry. I'm also stressed that my next pregnancy with end in mc and what that'll mean for my stats/chances. The docs said that my first mc was twins - which is high risk anyway. And the second was early - where the risk is higher for everyone. And the third wasn't in the right place? But if I have anymore mc's I can't grasp onto that in my attempt at denial - which I'm pretty good at We just had a story on our news about a newborn baby boy that was thrown in the garbage a few hours after he was born...he was found and rushed to the hosiptal and is doing fine but no one knows who/where his mom is. Makes me quite sick. There is a saying in Hebrew..."God sometimes gives nuts to people with no teeth." When I think of all the couples who are dying for a baby...
Sorry to squeeze in. Not recurrent miscarriages as such at this end, but very pleased that someone has started a thread for this. I've just had a missed miscarriage, discovered at the 12 week scan. I've also had an ectopic and my ds was one of twins, one of which died at about 8 weeks and managed to reabsorb.
Although I've conceived 4 babies and only carried one to term, because the miscarriages seem so random I keep being told that they're just 'one of those things' - I'm beginning to wonder how many times 'those things' can keep happening .
Waiting for AF so that we can think about starting to TTC again.
I'm not strictly 'recurrent' either but i've had 3, a suspect blighted ovum (only discovered when i started miscarrying and scan showed just an empty sack) which was complete, a mc at 8 weeks and a mmc at 13 weeks which both required an erpc. I had my daughter after the first 2 and she was 8 weeks premature. I've not had any of the tests, i asked this time but have heard nothing, i might go to the GP and ask buy he's been as much use as tits on a bike about ttc it'd probably not be worth the effort !
I too am waiting for AF altough we've been ttc anyway
Thanks lissielou, I found out the middle of Jan, waited 2 weeks and ended up with erpc at the beginning of Feb.
V. annoyed at being so sober and sick over Christmas - just not fair!
Christmas 05 - recovering from ectopic, so not much booze. Christmas 06 - breastfeeding, not much booze. Christmas 07 - pregnant, no booze. Christmas 08 - hopefully pregnant? Doh, no booze
hello all - recognise many of you from the mc avengers thread (which seems to be awfully quiet these days) hope you don't mind me popping in here.
have had 2 mcs in 3 mths first one i was 10 wks along, had erpc, 2nd one at 5 weeks, naturally, no erpc needed. just had first af after the most recent mc. and now in real mess in my head whether to ttc or wait.
went to the acupuncturist for the first time yesterday. she said that my kidneys were weak and i had blood stasis. not sure what either means. she thought it would be common sense to wait and get stronger before trying again. anyone been for acupuncture after recurrent mc and had the same thing told to them? drs said to wait after first af. physically i do feel exhausted, but just want to get on and a baby. cant get out of my head that may is coming up and that was the due date of first baby i lost. i was envisioning a lovely summer with new baby.
torn between letting her treat me for a few mths and ttc right away. help!
Hello bunny, sorry for your losses. I've had acupuncture since Oct after my 3 m/cs last year and find it really beneficial, though expensive. I was told that my kidneys needed unblocking and I had "damp". At the start it made me laugh, the thought I had rising damp on top of everything else, but have come to really get a lot out of the sessions and have lengthened my luteal phase by 1 day which is all good. After 4 months, I feel better all round and apparently my blood flow & kidneys are much better. I went weekly for 2 months and then now have it in the first 2 weeks of my cycle, where its to do with building the egg and womb lining, apparently. She said my body had had so many ups and downs with all the pregnancies that it needed time to strengthen to prepare for the next pregnancy. Has your acupuncturist talked about diet as well?
I've been going back to accupuncture for about 6 months - mainly due to sleep problems, but also because got pregnant last time that I saw her. Did sleep really well last night (well, the 6 hours I normally manage to be in bed before ds gets up anyway ). Apparently have some 'liver' issues - but heat main problem, not damp. Perhaps we should get together Blahmode - sounds as though we'd balance out quite nicely! Do you ever get the checking of pulse when they have to push really hard to get anything? One side in particular (R I think) - often much lighter than the L side. Very peculiar. And one spot on my foot she was finding yesterday made me shout out it hurt so much - was fine when she put the needle in once she'd found the spot though, and it doesn't appear to hurt today, so hope its done some good.
thanks blahmode and mistlethrush. yeah, i really was confused with all the terminology - googling it made my head spin. best to just trust her. she will put me on some herbs after 3rd visit. hmmm...
mistlethrush - i too yelped out loud on one spot on my thigh i made her take it out it was causing to much pain! but it is the same thigh/hip where i have chronic pain since giving birth to dd, so there must have been 2 years worth of congestion there. amazing stuff!
blahmode - she didnt talk about diet. but i am interested.will ask her next week - i was so overwhelmed with all the other info she was giving me. what did yours say about diet? oh the only thing she said was that i should stop eating dairy for a while coz of my blocked sinuses, but dont think it was related to mc.
Anybody had bits of the lining of their uterus stuck together? I don’t know what the technical term is…but when I had my hysteroscopy a month and a half ago the doc said he found a tiny patch that was a bit stuck. He opened it up but he said he didn’t think it was big enough to explain 3 mc’s (but then another doc said I can’t rule it out as a cause). But I’ve got my af now and it’s so much more like it used to be before the first mc and subsequent d&c. TMI coming... I used to have af for about a week. It used to start with a bang and be strong for about 2 or 3 days and then taper off slowly to almost nothing towards the end of the week. But after that first mc – it went funny. It would start with just spotting (which drives me mad when I’m hoping I’m preggers because when it starts I think…okay, it could still be some of that implantation bleeding) and then after a few days of next to nothing it gets strong and then tapers off – which means my af can be almost 2 weeks if I count the first spotting day as day one (should I be doing that? Or starting form the first heavy day?????)
ANYWAYS (apologies for the rambling) this is my first real period since the doc opened the small sticky bit in the uterine lining and dear af has started with a bang…like it used to before all the problems started…
I’m trying hard to listen to my hubby who reminds me to be cautiously optimistic…and maybe I’m just grasping at straws…but I can’t help wondering if that sticky bit was enough to cause the problems and my af being 'back to normal' means it’s now all gonna be good??
bunny - it wasn't the needle that was the problem - it was finding the spot to put the needle into to start with.
Heidi, sorry, can't help, no experience of that. I'm just waiting to find out whether there is any chromasone or cimilar reason for mc happening. Its good things are settling down to more like their previous pattern - hope that is a good omen.
I've had 3 mc's in the last 9 months and the hospital has at last referred me and DH for blood tests. We have to wait 8 weeks to allow my hormones to get back to normal after the last pregnancy and have an appointment for the end of April - is it right that we have to wait this long? It just seems like such a long time and so tempting to ttc in the meantime.
Can anyone give me any idea how long we will have to wait for the results of the blood tests as well??
In the meantime I'm really tempted to try acupuncture or reflexology - has anyone had real benefits from either.
Reading all your stories makes me realise that I am not alone.
Hello Poppys, sorry about your m/cs. My last one was in October and was told not ttc until appointment at recurrent m/c unit in Jan. This was v hard as I'm 43 and feel like I have zero time left. I really know how you feel. We had our bloods and my scan done end of Oct and got all results mid Jan so the whole process took a while. Heard good things about reflexology but not tried it yet and am getting a lot out of acupuncture so would recommend that, try finding one who specialises in fertility if poss.
Mistle & Bunny I was surprised how much acup can hurt though, especially the foot ones - like a wasp sting sometimes. Bit hard to relax sometimes when you want to kick the acupucturist! She doesn't press hard on me for pulse, its firm but not hard. Diet-wise they talk about reducing dairy, spicy foods, juices from concentrates, sugar, caffeine all the things I like. They also recommend avoiding eating cold things out of season (i.e. salads in winter), so food should be warmed or hot if possible and a big yes to porridge, brown rice, pulses and steamed veggies/fish/chicken.
Period arrived today so its back to CD1 for me, sigh.
Hi Poppy - seen you on other threads... Sorry you're here.
I had blood tests done in early Feb and have an appointment to consider results in April.
Blahmode - it wasn't the needling that hurt - that was OK - it was the initial finding of the spot that was the problem. Very occasionally I find that its sore when the needle goes in (I think it hits a nerve or something) - she sorts it out so that doesn't happen. I sometimes get an incredible 'electric shock' type feeling - to a greater or lesser extent.
The most amazing thing I found about accupuncture was when I went when I was pregant. Quite early on I got breathless - and it was clearly nothing to do with reduced lung capacity due to bump. I could be lying on the treatment couch having to shallow breathe, have the treatement and come out able to breathe normally.
My accupuncturist is very pro green tea - and doesn't complain too much about my excessive very weak china tea drinking provided that a reasonable proportion is green tea! I now drink very little coffee - the very occasional espresso for the taste, but otherwise only the odd one at about 2 / 3pm at work when I really need it!
Hello everybody, i am new to this forum, my name is wen. I have been reading all your posts on this thread and just wanted to say how sorry i am that we are all in this situation, it really is pants to put it mildly!
I have had 8 early m/c's over the past 22months with only one reaching up to 9weeks! The embryo just does not seem to beable to implant. I have had many blood tests etc and all have come back normal. I am at a stage now where i really dont know what else i can do so i am looking into getting a referral to see Prof Regan, dont know though what i really expect he to do, also i think i need to look into KN cells test. Anyway i hope i have'nt waffled on for too long.
I am so pleased i have now found this site, only wished i had found it a lot sooner.
hi wen, welcome to mn. im sure you will find it v supportive. i have had 8 mcs and 1 ep and am currently seeing mr f at LWH's recurrent mc clinic. have your tests shown anything
Hi LL, thanks for replying, all tets have shown nothing so it's a case of just keep trying but something can't be right as it goes wrong at the implantation stage! have just been searching consultants and came up with the following:
Dr Beer who has sadly passed away but seemed to be a very knowledgable man and Dr Wanger.
Hi there. Not sure whether I qualify to join the thread but could really really use some advice and a shoulder to cry on right now.
Found out today at 9 weeks scan that our much longed for DC3 had stopped growing. This is my 2nd mc in 4 months. Had mmc and ERPC in Nov07. I think I might mc naturally with this one which is petrifying me.
Am really confused why this has happened and I want to know if there's anything I can do to stop it happenig next time. Any advice? Get my egg quality tested (am 38 in June)? get DH's sperm tested? Have DD1 (6) from 1st marriage and DD(2) with DH. So I can carry to term. Just wondering whether last 2 pg have been boys and whether my body doesn't 'do' boys? <clutching at straws I know>.
Think I'm still in shock and have gone onto auto pilot to try and cope. I cope better when I have a plan to follow.
I know that some of you have been through a lot worse than me. But today, my world has crumbled.
oh heythere, im so sorry for your loss. the first thing you should do is get yourself to your gp and insist on tests, they dont normally run tests until you have had 3 mcs but because of your age they should do. i doubt very much that its a "cant carry boys" thing, there is no evidence to suggest that your body favours 1 sex over the other, unfortunately mc is very common and its most often a chromosonal blip in the embryo/foetus. having said that i know thats of little or no comfort to you, so i can just offer you some virtual chocolate and a shoulder to cry/rant on
Morning ladies, well here we go again, had another positive only for it to go faint and vertually disappear three days later!!!!! I just dont think this is ever gonna happen for me. All my friends and family members are on baby #2 and i cant even do it once!!!I've so had enopugh of everything! wenXXX.
Thanks Lissie, well AF has now arrived so i guess it's a definate no this times as i thought but i was hoping secretly that the line would increase!
I have found out so much more now on Nkcells etc and have decided to to Dr Thum first then if no joy i will go on to LWH to see Dr Quenby.
The only thing at the moment which i dont seem to find an answer to is what the difference is between the NK cells in uterus that Dr Quenby tests on (endometrium biopsie) and the blood tests for Nkcells that other Dr's test for? Anyway will keep you posted as and when i get appointment. wenXXX.
Hiya, not sure if I should be on here as I've 'only' had 2 miscarriages. The first was at 12 weeks (baby was about 11 weeks) and the second was last week at 5 weeks.
I went to the EPU after the last one on the advice of my doctor and they bascially said that I should avoid testing so early (a few weeks after due date was suggested)! Presumably they were suggesting that if I don't test, I won't know I'm pregnant and then won't know/care if I miscarriage Couldn't believe they said this but was far too upset to say anything. First of all it won't work as I usually know really early I'm pregnant and secondly surely it's better I know if it happens again so that maybe something can be done about it?
Sorry, that turned into a bit of a rant
Really sorry for anyone else going through this again and hope that this year will be lucky for us all.
kazbeth, thats terrible! they cant expect women to do that! if i waited til i was 6w pg then my life would be at risk. what a moron! im sorry that you have been through this, i know its tough. x
Hi, just wondering how everyone was doing and if there's been any pregnancies here
We're still trying. It's been 3 weeks since my last miscarriage and no idea if and when I'm likely to ovulate .. I know some people on here have become pregnant straight after a miscarriage so here's hoping
Hi ladies. Sorry for all of your losses . Can I please join? DH and I have been together 11 years. We have one dd(8yo), had threatened miscarriage with her at 7 weeks but fortunately went on to have healthy pregnancy. Would really love to have another dc but have had 4 successive miscarriages -Jan 04, Jan 05, July 06 and Aug 07. Have been referred to the recurrent miscarriage clinic and think it will be a couple of months before I have had the blood tests and am seen by the consultant. Think I should perhaps wait until result before TTC though so that I am armed with any information and plus I don't exactly feel on top form emotionally or physically at the moment.
Hi Lissielou, how are you? After much debate about looking into tests/clinics etc we have decided to look into surrogacy. I just dont think i can take much more, physically and mentally im tired of all the excitement then the sadness!!! Will keep you posted of any progress. wenXXX.
Hi all Well, I had a great feeling about last month - but no - AF was right on time And I'm trying not to get too excited this month...I'm pretty sure that I ovulated in the past 3 days - and we've bd'ed on each of those days While a part of me thinks that this next one will be 'the one' to stick I keep reminding myslef that my problem hasn't really been getting pregnant - just staying pregnant wen I totally get the whole up/down happy/sad thing - the worst is when people tell me that I need to not stress about it all - I know that's true...but damn...how can I not be stressed!! anyway, wishing all of you who are trying got bd'ing
Hi lissielou, thank for asking I'm ok at the moment except getting rather frustrated and impatient about not being pregnant again already - which I know is silly as the miscarriage was only 4 weeks ago. How are you doing?
lissielou I am at the recurrent miscarriage clinic at the Royal Infirmary in Leicester. Professor Konje. Have yet to go for all of the tests though. I know I should probably wait to TTC. Only a couple of months before I may or may not get some answers eh?
Don't feel too bad at the mo, but I am cd20 so the real monthly madness has yet to start....
Sorry for crashing the thread btw - know lissie from elsewhere but not others. My story - 1 lovely dd, then 3mcs and all tests negative. Have been ttc dc2 for nearly three years in total now. Will be asking for referral back to gynae if no bfp this month - wonder if clomid the way forward?
I'm on cd17 - I was sure I ovulated over the weekend - last night I had a migraine and today I have some pretty heavy spotting.
Now i know that spotting can be a sign of implantation...but not his early, right? And headaches can be an early sign of pregnancy (with all the hormonal changes) but again - not this early.
i'm just so confused and depressed and stressed - and sick of having to put a smile on my face around all the pregnant woman around and having to say stupid things like "Yes, we do want another one - yes, we know dd1 is getting big and needs a little sister/brother - yes, we're working on it"
Hi Spotting stopped, didn't go to doc...ended up getting a wonderful tummy virus that included high fever, passing out and getting so fantastically dehydrated that I got pins and needles in my hands...kind of took my mind off making babies for a few days -
Anyway, we have bolidays here for the next week and the doc I'm now under is off. By the time he's back I should either have a bfp or af (but considering how sick I was this week I don't think anything could stick) and once he's back I'll go and make an appointment with him and hope I don't get blown off for asking stupid questions like 'what's wrong with me/why I'm I not regular anymore/why can't anyone help me?' Thanks for the concern downbutnotout Our stories sound really similar - but you've been trying for a year longer than us how old is your dd? ours is 4. I wanted no more than 3 years between kids but since dd1 was no problem I thought everything was going to work out fine now she's getting so big and I worry that the gap is already going to be too big for them to play well and have a good connection. One of my friends has a good few years between her and her brother and they're not close...she says 'we grew up with different parents - him with parents in their 20s me with parents in their 30s and just when he noticed it wasn't cool to play with little kids, I was old enough to want to go out and play with him' anyway, good helping of baby dust all round cheers
I have some thoughts on the whole thing for what it's worth: I have two elder sisters (5 and 7 years older, my mum had 1 mc between us). I didn't get on with either of them when they lived at home and our relationships have all ebbed and flowed between quite antagonistic and quite close over the years but we are now (mainly) on very good terms, as we have bonded over becoming parents. In fact one of my sisters was an absolute rock when I was struggling to come to terms with being a new parent. We are all very different people, but I know that I could rely on them in a crisis and vice versa.
Children are children for a very short part of their lives and their personalities will be in large part pre-determined (I believe), so they may or may not get along regardless of the age gap that's between them. All we can do is do our best job as parents to raise them to be well-rounded people and even if they don't appreciate one another now, maybe they will come to do so as adults and that will last for much longer.
Anyhow, I didn't plan to have such a big gap either but I am trying andfailing to look on the positive side: when the baby comes dd1 will be at school and I will have the luxury of being able to give them my undivided attention for part of the time. It's not as if I have a choice anyway - if you had told me in my twenties that I would be this driven to have a child I would have laughed at you, but now I have an urge I can't ignore.
Suspect AF on it's way too, but trying not to lose hope yet...
Help me - I am a recovering POAS addict and I was doing so well...
...but this month I have had three days of spotting which stopped today. AF was due today. Feel sick and tired. Have had all the above happen before without being pg (many, many times) but I really, really want to test.
Well here I am again at cd1. Will be off to GP to tomorrow to see whether can get referral to fertility specialist. Have prepared blunt instrument and sharp words in case he advises me to relax.
Hey lissie! Wishing you a happy ovulation soon, if that's not too weird...
Well, saw the GP (not my usual one, but all to the good - he is a twat) and as expected he will not refer until we have been trying for a year since last mc, BUT he has given me all paperwork to get bloods for LSH etc and sperm test for dh so we can be ahead of the game if a referral is still needed at a year (two months away). And he didn't tell me to relax.
A bit depressed today though, recounting my post-dd ttc history always makes me feel like a great big failure, like I'm not a proper woman [wallowing in self-pity emoticon]. Had a very small weep on the way back from surgery. Off to get more chocolate.
oh DBNO, i know that feeling all too well. will he not refer on the basis of you not having a successful(sorry, crap word, i know) pg since dd (how old is she btw?)
We get pregnant fairly easily but I can’t seem to stay that way. Last summer I was pregnant with twins. I miscarried the first at about 6 weeks and then the second stopped developing at about 11 weeks and I had to have a d&c. Fell pregnant again and had another miscarriage at about 7 weeks – thankfully no d&c needed. Got pregnant for the third time but had to have another d&c at 10 weeks 
doesn’t sound too brilliant to me. And in his words “we can’t do anything for, go home and try to make a baby. If you do fall pregnant come and see me – not that I’ll be able to do anything then either – but it might make you feel better”
seriously, is there a page with acronyms that I was supposed to study? 
when I see pregnant people (including our secretary at work) though... 
