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hi. I am 46 (yes), my DS is 3.5, so I was 42 when I conceived. We've been trying for #2, but it's taking ages this time.I know it's my age, but if one is able to conceive easily at 42, then she would at 46, maybe with a little more effort.keep positive!
I'm 41, and have had four miscarriages in the past two years , the last three at 11 to 13 weeks, and the last two due to chromosonal problems.
I'm still trying, but fearfully, as it would seem I'm pretty fertile, just incredibly unlucky so far. I hold on to stories I hear about women having lots of m/cs, then a baby or two at the end of it.
Currently in that 'am I, aren't I' phase that happens every month when aunt flo is due, especially as since the last m/c, in March, my cycles have been all over the shop.
We have a lot of mc between us don't we. I started this thread because of lot of the mnetters describe themselves as older mothers at 33-35. But I think it is very different trying TTC over 40 because time is running out, it often takes much, much longer to conceive and the rate of mc is higher. My 'mummy' friends are pretty much all aged 31-35 and to be honest I don't think they have much idea how much pressure and anxiety I have about all of this. Looking at it from my point of view they have so much time and I just don't know if I'm even going to be able to have another baby let alone time to wait until one is at nursery before I think about having one. If I do that it will probably be too late.
I don't normally come on this board but popped in and found this thread. I am 44 and would love another but feel I would need to start now and tbh DH not keen and am also worried about mc. (Had one in the past)Don't know what to do but feel really broody.
I conceived at 43, quite quickly tbh. I used everything. If you haven't already read 'taking charge of your fertility'. I took temps, used ov sticks and checked cm and cervix. I plotted my cycles on fertility friend and followed the pattern of having BD from day 10 of my cycle until my temp went up. The combination of these methods meant I got pg fairly quickly. Within 3 cycles anyway.
Hi I'm 41 have been ttc since the beginning of the year with no luck yet. Concieved my ds at 36 vey quickly so I am a bit concerned it is'nt happening yet.
Lyndylo what is 'taking charge of your fertility' is it a book or a link on mumsnet?
Birthdaycake, wanted to say thank you ! I was starting to feel like a 'very older' mother seeing ladies in their mid thirties seeing themselves as old . I certainly didn't feel old in my 30's but then I didn't have to manage young children so can understand that has an impact! I am TTC No1 since June, and am 40. My husband and married when I was late thirties so do feel as though time is running out, despite being happily married and happy with our life we both felt maybe we were too old but decided to give it a try regardless(my husband is 43 so time is running out I guess !).
So glad to see others also trying at this 'age' and having had friends who have also miscarried in late thirties/early forties (but did go on to have healthy babies) very sad to so many of you who have been through this but also happy to see everyone so committed and positive regardless.
I do find it sad that some people find it strange to be 40 plus and wanting a baby, my own mother was very young when I was born but my grandmother had a baby over 40 in the sixties so its hardly a new thing.
xyzabc thank you, yes I have one of those kits now after a couple of months using mymonthlycycle website. I guess I have just been put off by comments of others, including nurses, they seem to want to remind me of the risks, MC, DS etc not to mention asking 'why would you want to have one at your age' but I am still determined to try as is DH. (sorry just realised in last post I forgot some of the acronyms ).
go girl go! dont be put off, having a child in your 40s is a wonderful experience. i think it keeps you young. i understand there are a few more risks to consider, (from your doctors point of view) but these are well monitored.so relax and dont worry! ps.have lots of fun trying for that baby of yours!! love xyz xx
Hi can I join to?
I had dd now 2, when I was almost 39 folowing the first time without birth control in 16 years, what a shock. We had put of ttc as dh has MS and is often unwell.However I now would love number two and have only just started ttc, I need to swot up on my ov as cant be arsed shagging all the time although I am sure that helps, just to damm tired, the downside of now being almost 41. I love being a mum now and I am sure that I am much better than I would have been 10 or more years ago. Agree with Birthdaycake about young mothers, I have a friend who is 30 and is so down at not yet pg and who feels that time is running out.
My mum had my brother at 42 so heres hoping.
Hve bought vit. pills to start things off. Does anyone think they make any difference. I used them when bb dd, however have no idea if they made any difference.
Good luck to us all.
Hi giggly, good for you at trying for no2, I was very confused at first about the advice out there for over 35 conception, and concerned that I would be completely knackered after a month of trying! I did find the the clearblue digital monitor great but expensive (loved the smiley face but it was smiling when dh away so not so great). Now I have got to grips with the cycle i will probably try the cheaper ones instead.
Have not tried vitamin pills, just the folic acid. which ones did you try ?
birthdaycake I always thought I would have children by my early thirties and then didn't meet the right person, then was unwell so thought I had missed out which made me very depressed for a while until I had the courage to look into the options and realise with support from my dh that it was not really too late. I would of course have preferred to have children earlier, it was just not possible but I am afraid of the reaction I might get from some people.
This is a message for Herbacious- my friend has had 4 mc that I know of but I think she had more, all quite late on. she then went on to have a little girl and she's similar age.
Lots of luck to you all xx
Hello Manuka - sorry, I've only just seen your message. Thanks for telling me - it's just what I need! Approaching the middle of this cycle, so will jump DP with greater enthusiasm than ever...
Have any of you considered using herbs or accupuncture to give you an extra boost? For some people these methods can be very helpful and worth a look at.
Hi, yes,I have. I am taking Agnus Castus and a multivitamins on a regular basis. I've had reflexology in the past and I am now considering acupuncture too. Hope everyone here is doing well
You asked for more success stories: had DS1 at 39, conceived when I was 38 in the first month of trying; had DS2 at 41, conceived at 40 after 6 months of panic! My top tips are sex every day excluding during your period, and both of us eating pumpkin seeds every day (something I read).
I am 44 and have a 6 mo conceived 3 months after a mmc when I was 43. We weren't actively TTC either and only had sex once in those 3 months- not even mid-cycle
Thank you a feel a bit more cheery and hopeful for reading you stories.
My DS stated school last week so I'm a bit emotional here at the moment. Must go and pounce on DH
I was age 40 and had mmc. Had ds1 at 42 and ds2 at 43!
It took 13 months to get pg with ds1 and there were many months where I sat in the toilets crying down the phone to dp cos AF had arrived.
So when he finally arrived we said no time to waste if we want another as time was not on my side (DP is toy boy - and got pg first time of trying when ds1 was 7m.
Don't give up my friend had dd at 37, decided to try again and its taken 18 months but she is 41 and baby no 2 due in April.
It is harder and takes longer to conceive over 40, my gp said I am extremely unusual to have two so close together at 42 and 43.
Keep going there are more older mums on mnet than anywhere else - I live in a place where teenage motherhood is more the norm and I'm often old enough to be the mother of the other mothers at the playgroups etc round here!
So inspirational to read the messages from all of you. I am 40 and ttc no 1, one early mc earlier this year but doctor says there is no reason I can't get there but have to be patient, not so easy.
I had never considered more than one but now reading the story from Flibberty I may change my ambitions !
Hi. Is there room for another? I'm 41. I have 23yr DS, 21yr DD, 1yr DS. A bit of an age gap there, I know. But we're ttc again. I've had 2 mc's in the last 6 months - 1 at 6 weeks and 1 at 10 weeks. We're hoping 3rd times a charm, and the next time will be lucky. I'm feeling pretty hopeful, as DD and 1yr DS are both July babies, seems to be that Oct to Nov is a good time for me to get pregnant. Not sure why. But hopefully that means I'll have a healthy BFP soon!
It's nice to see this group. I felt ancient when I saw someone on another thread talking about how at 35, she felt she might be too old.
Hi Lilibet I know what you mean about not testing, if the bean is going to stick it will be there in 2 weeks and the hormones will be much higher giving you a very clear answer.
I also that this not checking principle with lottery tickets!! I'm sure that will work soon too!
I am a down the bottom of this tread I'm 41, one ds age 4 (just started school) and ttc since the beginning of this year.
Hi Lilibet, Triggles and Hedgepig. Just wanted to say hi to everyone and thank you again for making me not feel alone ! being over 40 'old' and ttc. I am off on holiday and wanted to wish Lilibet well, hopefully it will be testing time when I get back ! Hedgepig hope DS is enjoying his new school. Triggles, glad to hear its not just me who felt really ancient hearing someone feel old at 35, but can understand it. Good luck everyone.
Hello everyone. It's day 9 for me, the time is coming to do the deed... I am also charting on Fertilityfriend, being 46 doesn't leave much space for improvisation.But at the same time I try to take it easy. I have a wonderful 3.5 yr old, and I feel lucky to have had him at 42. How are you ladies?
hi mums, can i join you. im 44, and already have 3 children (1dd 21) (2dd18) and 1ds7. unfortunately have had 2 m/c in last 3 years, i at 11 weeks and 1 at 19.5 (a mmc) dispite this i still feel i've got a couple of years in me, and wont let the m/c put me off. dont know if im mad but if i dont try will always regret. ( you know what i mean) plus in an earlier post did mention my nan had her last at 46, so still time!!!!
Hi all. Can I join in. I'll be 42 in November and we are ttc no. 3. Have been trying since May and have now decided to try acupuncture to see if this may help. I seriously think I'm mad as ds has just started school full time but I can't shake the broodiness. Fingers crossed for us all.
I'm just waiting for AF at this point. Or ovulation. I'm happy with either, honestly. I had m/c in August and am just waiting for my cycle to get normal again.
been lurking, now saying hi.
soon to be 43. had no problem conceiving 2 DCs, at 35 and 38 but now hormones all over the place (been tested) so just a miniscule chance of getting a no.3 ... wish I'd packed them in closer together...
been trying for 14 months.. had figured it might take four conceptions to get a baby, based on previous MCs... so not even getting past first base is really sad.. though think I am a bit old for hut of doom...
two friends had their first at 42, and I know someone who had their first at 46... so it certainly can happen... but they didn't have erratic periods to contend with...
mersey; never give up hope, even if periods all over the place. as long as your having them, thats all that matters. im 44, will give it a year. women have babies at 45/46 no problem. the only reason you dont see it alot is because most women this age dont want kids!
I conceived four times between 39 and 41 in under six cycles. But miscarried them all. Now it's six months since my last m/c, and I haven't conceived. Getting all paranoid that something has changed within, and that I'm not ovulating. My periods are regular, which is a good sign, but I don't get the EWCM I used to. Going to try evening primrose oil and agnus castus this month, and may resort to taking my temps, though this sounds as though it can be misleading...
Herbaceous - just to let you know to tread with care if you are considering Agnus Castus.
I'm 41 and ttc and took Agnus Castus - and it really messed my cycles up taking them anywhere up to 36 days (having previously been 28) and one of the 4 months I was taking it I didn't ovulate at all.
Since stopping the Agnus Castus my cycles have gone back to 28 days and I have ovulated the last two months. I know some women swear by the stuff but it was not for me.
I've found evening primrose oil very good for helping with the production of EWCM and grapefruit juice also helps.
thanks for the positivity xyzabc and herb sorry to hear about your MCs
I'm an evening primrose oil fan too and have taken it since seeing it recommended on Mumsnet recently. It made a big difference to EWCM which had been erratic.
Oh FSD, me neither, according to Fertilityfriend I did ovulate but my persona monitor didn't give me any egg sign at all. Oh well, let's see.Have a nice weekend girls!
Not quite sure how to phrase this but does anyone else find the 'we have to have sex now' a bit of a pain, and how do you get over it?
Sex is wonderful , and I really, really enjoy it , but I don't like the "it's day 14, my mucus is like eggwhite, so come on big boy give it to me now' aspect of it and TBH I don't think Dh finds it the best turn on in the world.
It is a complete nightmare. I had one monitored cycle and amazingly (and unusually) everything was just perfect. The woman had warned me to seduce my husband and not tell him about the OV. But he knew I was going for the scan so I felt I had to tell him. Anyway suffice it to say that he felt under pressure and could not perform, a big row ensued and the opportunity was missed. A real b*** as AF things have been erratic and rubbish ever since.
Am now not using any OV prediction stuff to try and avoid stress, and relying on EWCM and gently stepping things up a bit if possible then.
I have read though that it is pretty appointment to do lots of BD in the week leading up to OV as well as on the day itself.
I actually did a test at weekend after chatting to someone on another thread, my last period was only a day and a half long and i'm on day 16 of a 28 day cycle and still haven't got any EWCM
It was negative tho'
xyzabc - will he be pleased when it happens?? (please not the posotive when and not if)
hi kd73. love to have a younger mum on here. i think most of us are over 40, but no problem. (sorry about your m/c}
lillibet/mersey
not telling dh as he worries about me. ive had 2 m/c in last 3 years. one at 20 weeks. he thinks enough is enough and as we have children he cant understand why i want to put myself through any more pain. {was heartbroken after m/c} plus im 44.
but just want to try one last time. i know its risky but women do have babies at our age. if i do get pregnant, not sure how he will react. wont tell him until about 5 months! (im not slim, could get away with it}
I've just had my blood test results back - FSH 4.8, LH 3.0. Apparently these show 'good ovarian reserve'. Yay! So, plenty of them left, just perhaps a bit duff...
His sperm are mighty. We've conceived four times together, but I've miscarried them all . Which is why I want a magic way of knowing what my egg quality is like...
I don't know about my progesterone levels. My last three miscarriages all got beyond 10 weeks, and the last two, at least, were due to trisomies, so I suspect that progesterone isn't a problem.
However, when/if i next get up stick, I'm going to go and sit in the consultant's office until she prescribes progesterone, heparin and anything else that could possibly help...
I'm due this weekend and am varying between very hopeful and deciding that I am absolutley not
I'm very aware of every twinge and ache and am trying to decipher them, I've had sore boobs, but earlier than normal does that mean I am? I've been a bit snappy does that mean I'm not? I've had stomach pains - period or implantation?
You don't have to answer these, they are just the way my mind is working at the moment.
I'm a couple of days late but I've been having acupunture to make my periods more like they used to be so thinking it's that. I'll have to test by friday though as I need to know before I have my next session of AP on Friday evening. Waste of a test probably.
I do have some reservations about being the mum of a reception class child at 50, so I don't wnat to keep this up indefinitley but how do you know when the right time is to stop?
Just to let you all know that 9dpo (according to cbfm) in the afternoon I did a cbd hpt and got a 'pregnant'. Really hesitate to tell anyone as had 2 mc in last year. I was getting symptoms unbelievably including bigger (.)(.) and slight nausea on waking and thought I was imagining it and so decided to do a test to confirm that it was just wishful thinking...and it wasn't. Now just have to wait and see if it's all okay but really worried though.
will done OBcake that is brilliant news, I feel inspired I'm 41 too. Herb I have bought a themometer too, I think DH thinks I am insane when I stick it in my mouth every morning. But writing it down seems a positive thing to do.
hello everyone, this is my first post on mumsnet, after lurking for a while. I will be 46 in less than a month, and am now 18 weeks pregnant, so it can be done! Still a bit gobsmacked really, it was something I'd been hoping for but not really expecting, IFYKWIM. OBCake congratulations , hope all is going well... I know just how nerve-wracking those early weeks are. Hope the rest of you get good luck too.
Can I join you all? Am 40 and have a ds who is 4. I m/c two years ago, and haven't really tried since then as was disheartened by it all. Now in a better frame of mind and looking to ttc in the New Year. Last time around it took 18 months, and I don't want to try that long again, but will give it a good year I think.
Ni NoNickname I'm 41 and have a ds who is 4 too. Did yous start school this year? Been trying for a year, stated very casually but am getting increasingly scientific, I bought a thermometer and and trying charting. My conclusion so far is my sleep pattern is not very good, so i must go to ben.
hedgepig - ds started at a nursery/kindergarten attached to a school this year - he doesn't start "proper" school until next year. We got all very scientific last time towards the end, and I used to hate that "we've got to do it today or tomorrow" knowledge as it put so much pressure on things.
Someone I know swore by a "fertility spell" that could help you to ceonceive. I'm very sceptical about things like that, but did it anyway (desperation!) and we actually conceived the month after we did the spell!
So I'll reproduce it here for everyone else just in case you fancy trying it:
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"This spell requires a green candle (an additional blue candle for healing is recommended if there is a medical condition involved), a small square of green cloth and a tie, a small amount of rich soil, and a nut or seed. You'll also need a candleholder and some matches.
This spell should be performed in the bedroom if possible. Using your projective hand (the one you write with) hold the green candle and charge it with fertile energy. Imagine a healthy pregnancy, a beautiful baby. See it as if it already happened. (If you use the blue candle, repeat the procedure, this time seeing your problems healed). Place the candle(s) on a table and light them, feeling the fire energize the spell. Then take the soil, charging it with the fertility of the earth, of growth. Sprinkle it around the candle(s). Then let the candle(s) burn down on their own (Never leave a candle burning unattended). When the candles burn down, take the soil and place it in the green cloth. Then take the seed or nut and "plant" it in the soil. Tie up the cloth tightly and carry it with you. Also, place it in your bed when you do YOUR planting! If you get a pretty cloth and tie it with a pretty green ribbon you can hang it in your bedroom and it just looks like one of those pot pourri things."
Hi there, I am trying for baby two at the moment and thought I would come on here and say hi. I am 41 and DP is 31 and we have a three year old son, who is about to start nursery. We both wanted another child, but I wasn't very keen to have them very close together because I found giving just one child as much time and attention as I wanted was exhausting. So now I actually feel mentally prepared for another baby and we have been trying since March, but not that seriously. However, DP's brother and partner have just announced they are expecting, so as they are a very competitive family, DP is now very keen. This is quite useful as the whole babydancing thing was putting too much pressure on us both and often DP was feeling ill, or would disappear around ovulation time. I have been using fertility friend to chart CM and Ovulation plus all the other stuff. This month I had a faint bfp at 28 days, which got fainter and fainter then nothing. I was about 6 days late when I had a really heavy af, so I think that I may have had a really early miscarriage. I am taking fish oils, flaxseed oil, red raspberry leaf, evening primrose, 75mg of aspirin and a multi-vit. That takes up most of the morning.
Wow, at the spell that worked!! Might give that a go if nothing happens in the next couple of months. Oh I forgot to say I went to the doctors and exaggerated the length of time we had been trying, because I wanted us to have a check up given my time is limited. So we are waiting for an appointment with a specialist and I have had a 21 day progesterone test, which apparently was fine. Also did the rubella and, is it FSH? test on the third day of a new cycle, but the nurse who sent it to the lab forgot to request the fsh test so all we know is that I am immune to rubella (which I did mention at the time). Apparently, I don't need a new test, but my practice is requesting the fsh details for next week. Hope it's all OK. Oh and off the topic, did anyone watch Heroes? I thought that was a strange ending last night.
Can I be the oldest on here? I am 47 (closer to 48) I had my first (and only) child at 45, but would be delighted to have another. I am still b/f my ds which has probably delayed things, but have had my periods back for about 8 months now.
CD 10 today.
I like to think of those 30 months without periods as a kind of suspended animation - 30 eggs not ovulated iyswim!
hi im v new2this so hope it comes out ok!lol im an "older" mum@40.have got2v luvly girls already of21&18 from my marriage&am now in r/ship with a wonderful man whos never had kids&we dearly want1of our own.have bin trying4while now&had3mcs last1being in aug but we're not giving up hope&are still trying!good luck2all of us who are!
aviatrix - am very of your long time without periods. I exclusively bf ds for the first 4-5 months, then he carried on bfing until he was 3.9 - but my periods came back about 6 weeks after the birth! Loads of wasted eggs!
Aviatrix I think this whole ttc thing becomes clutching a straws after a while. My straw is my mom had a baby @ 40 so genetically I must have a good chance!! I've bought pre-seed this month to give it a try, although i think the spell might work better (must find a green candle)
Haven't read through the thread completely, but would like to join it and will read through it from the beginning when I have time. I am 42 and have a dd born when I was 37, against the odds as my dh has very low sperm count. She was conceived naturally after failed IVF. I am now longing for another, but it is even further against the odds now. However, we will keep trying, as it did miraculously work once!
Hello to you all. I'm new and really pleased that there are others out there like me.Am 41 and I had a mc in Oct after trying for 6 years. I have become a little obsessive about getting pg again. Only a little. I don't remember it being this hard first time around.....
Hello to you all. I'm new and really pleased that there are others out there like me.Am 41 and I had a mc in Oct after trying for 6 years. I have become a little obsessive about getting pg again. Only a little. I don't remember it being this hard first time around.....
Hi Sandies, I didn't have any probs 1st time round either probably lulled me into a false sense of security. Anyway I have had my hormones checked and the are "perfectly normal" so we have bded lots this month so I am hopeful for a change.
since last Jan. Stated of very casually but now I am getting a tad on the obsessive side . Bought the "taking charge of your fertility - Toni Welscher" book which has actually reassured me that I am ovulating (confirmed by the blood tests). I just wishs I had bought it 6 months ago. It is well worth a look if you haven't read it.
We didn't use contraception for 6 years - off and on. We had a good attitude and just thought if it happened it happened. Found myself pregnant in September, unbelievably happy. Miscarried in Oct and have been obsessed since.
I'm the same age as you 41, I do like the term young ! Sorry about your mc, I must be so C**p to get excited and then to lose the bean. Unfortunately as you get older it gets more common. I have one DS I conceived at 36 so quickly I wasn't paying any attention to when my periods were to work out his due date.
I think we're following each other to the two threads!!! I'm not sure which was worse looking back - the trauma of the D&C or the emotional trauma of losing. I hope to have another chance and get it right this time (it was obviously my fault - the usual mum guilt!)
Hello! Can I join in? Am "only" (haha) 39 and a half!!
Have one dd nearly 3 and have been TTC for about 18 months. Just discovered pre-seed too and have also just bought one of those ovulation microscopes. Anyone got one? Mine didn't really show any of the ferny patterns at all. Praps I licked it too enthusiastically
Sandies, if you have just mc-ed i think your hormones will take a while to get back to "normal" but a younger husband sounds great. Mine is 45 and tired all the time, so we don't do as much bd-ing as we need to (or is it too?)
Hi fruitbowl - I do not have a microscope but I have a thermometer and keep checking my c.mucus. It is absolutly shocking how i have manged to get to 41 and not sussed out my boobs get sore every month after ovulation!