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Mumsnet Discussions: Childbirth : mars or Lulu are you here, labour in progress (54 messages)
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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Wed 14-May-08 16:15:18
my lady is 41 wks, in labour as we speak and not making fab progress as far as she thinks.

called 6am this morn, saying had been niggling all night, went from 20 mins to 10 mins, now at 7 mins, Brill, me thinks, text book.

Kept in contact throughout day, her calling me, she's had bath, paracetamol, doing lots moving, . Bath stalled it a bit, went down to 10 mins, 12 mins,
She is now using her tens, it was on 4 this morning, is now on no. 6. Says cx are painful, and can't talk through them. Took tens off for a while to see if it made a difference, lasted one cx!! Yes it is making a difference, she says.

Her husband is there with her, and her young son will be there from 6pm, as will be the person looking after him.

She is feeling like she needs loo constantly but not weeing much, lots pressure.

Have suggested snuggling up with hubby, holding hands during cx and looking silently (him not neccesarily her) into his eyes during cx, as he is asking lots questions during cx, as to how he can help. Though this would kind of reinforce her need to be silent during them, as she as told me she would like.

We are in phone contact, I am half hour away at most. On our last conversation at 3 she said, I want some gas and air. I said, don't leave it till you are desperate to get further pain relief if you think you need some.

Now what, have said call whenever, obviously. Last labour was a stop start 3 day affair with failed epidural. Sooo doesn't want the same again.

Any advice oh wise ones.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By VictorianSqualor on Wed 14-May-08 16:32:01
I know what lulu will say.

Sex. grin

Also keep mobile, keep walking around, the more gravity pushes the baby down the better, but I'm just someone who thrives on labour threads, wait for the real thing by all means grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Wed 14-May-08 16:33:40
hiya,

yeah I know what lulu will say, grin but just wanted to touch base i think. Have suggested some smooching with hubby but she doesn't fancy it.

lol at your labour threads. x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Lulumama on Wed 14-May-08 16:34:15
if she feels like getting nekkid and being loved up IF her waters are intact that might help, or just being close and cuddling

tell him to SHUT UP (nicely!)

or if she is finding his presence a distraction, she should go and sit astride the loo facing the cistern to get baby descending, by herself

is she homebirth? is baby OP?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Lulumama on Wed 14-May-08 16:35:12
leaning over birth ball, with strong massage in the small of her back..when are you going?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain on Wed 14-May-08 16:37:13
Oooooh how exciting....

And I am nosy so wanted this thread on my 'thread's I'm on' list!!

<get's tea and cakes>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Wed 14-May-08 16:38:00
hiya. [relieved emoticon]

yeah baby slightly op at monday check up. She'd not hb but wants to stay at home as long as poss. Hosp is literally 5 mins away.

Don't wanna intrude and obviously i have done a fab job, [prenes self] and stilling her fears from last time given that i only met them 3 weeks ago, I've worked hard getting to know them, and going over all the last labour and this one too.
What i mean is, is it possible for her to be over confident now and miss her hospital window?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Wed 14-May-08 16:39:37
yeah i have her leaning over ball oas opposed to on it, have tried the practiced massage, she didn't like it.

Is it ever ok for me to say, right i'm coming over? I just feel i couled help more if i could see her, iykwim.

thanks, cake for me please, could be a long one. lol
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Lulumama on Wed 14-May-08 16:40:31
i think it would be worthwhile to say you can come over and if she does not want people wth her or touching her, you can be near her,. and can keep her DH from irritating her

is anything holding her back> any unresolved issues or fears?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Lulumama on Wed 14-May-08 16:41:07
how far apart are ctx and how long they lasting?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain on Wed 14-May-08 16:41:57
You'll have to race me to get to the custard doughtnuts I'm afraid wink LDC is at the ready though
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Wed 14-May-08 16:42:42
7 to 10 mins and lasting almost a minute!!!

I think having her young son is holding her back a bit, he is only 2 and half and gets upset when she gets on all 4's.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Lulumama on Wed 14-May-08 16:44:14
perhaps you could speak to her, say you will go over, it will take you a bit to get there, and when you arrive , can encourage Dad to sort out the toddler. what is the plan for him when they go to hospitl?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By largeginandtonic on Wed 14-May-08 16:45:14
Oh the excitement!

<< takes a cake from NJ >>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Lulumama on Wed 14-May-08 16:46:43
hi largegin! and NJ, tis like the good old days

<<blots memory of 6 week long am in labour thread>>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain on Wed 14-May-08 16:49:48
LOL You loved it, I only did it for you..... hmm LOL
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Wed 14-May-08 16:50:17
there was a plan for him to go to someones house but seems she is going to stay there with him now.

right, just had her on phone. suggested the loo position. Am aiming to get to her for half 6.
ctx's def lasting a min, and painful.

ooh
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Wed 14-May-08 16:51:27
hey lg&T, is your lo one now, Little Annie turned one last week. Any sign of no. 7 yet.

we ttc no. 6!!

sorry, i distract easily.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Lulumama on Wed 14-May-08 16:51:51
ok

half 6 is a long time and anything could happen !!

if she is finding her son is stopping her from adpoting the positions she needs to it might be better for you to go earlier and make this a bit more 'real' ? IFYSWIM

keep us posted if you can smile

NJ, it was jolly good fun and brought us brief fame/ notoriety!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By LadyOfTheCauliFlowers on Wed 14-May-08 16:52:12
If she feels she needs g&a now, she needs it, otherwise she may lose control and let it get the better of her.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Wed 14-May-08 16:52:58
she sounded distracted this time on the phone so i'm sure all is progressing nicely. I did tell her to look at the intensity and length of ctx as opposed to how far apart aswell
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Lulumama on Wed 14-May-08 16:53:14
but if she can have a coherent conversation then she is not at the losing control stage ! grin i would be tempted to go sooner rather than later.. just to be there. but that is me !

is that oyu ladyoftheflowers?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Lulumama on Wed 14-May-08 16:53:43
x post..

then definitely think about getting there sooner rather than later ! grin

<<starts knitting>>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Wed 14-May-08 16:54:10
yeah, I think i will get my lo's dropped off at mates and head off.
could just say, was unsure how long would take this time of night. wink
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Lulumama on Wed 14-May-08 16:55:29
good stuff!

will await an update

happy doulaing / birthing !
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain on Wed 14-May-08 16:55:49
If it was me in labour, I'd want you there....
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By largeginandtonic on Wed 14-May-08 16:56:27
Yes head over! I am so envy of you.

I am not trying for #7 anymore, changed my mind. DH is away for 9 months next year and the baby would be due when he is away. I am on hold for a while.

Beau is 1 in 2 weeks!

<< hands Lulu her raincoat amidst sniggers >>
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By LadyOfTheCauliFlowers on Wed 14-May-08 16:56:45
yes tis me lulu.
from my exp. when a miserable old midwife told me there was no way i could use the pool again second time, i began to panic and felt i was losing control, that's all. I thought maybe trying to hold her off if she really wants it may result in a similar reaction?

Deffo. needs the small one removed if his presence is not allowing her to do what feels natural. bless him!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Wed 14-May-08 16:58:15
right i'm off.

see you tomorrow with the birth story,

watch this space,

thanks ladies, mn is fab. x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain on Wed 14-May-08 17:01:18
Oh no, hasn't she got a 'pooter? I am sure she won't mind you borrowing mid contaction wink

Good luck to you, and her!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Lulumama on Wed 14-May-08 18:24:50
<<dons raincoat, goggles and waders>>

ah, the good old days ! grin looking forward to teh update
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By largeginandtonic on Wed 14-May-08 18:30:08
grin grin grin
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain on Thu 15-May-08 08:00:26
Is there any news yet?

<Hands round the waffles and cornflakes and custard doughnuts>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Thu 15-May-08 08:33:41
morning ladies.

Baby girl arrived safely 7.06pm!! 7lb 13ozs....

Get to m's house 6.10pm, to find her laughing and joking with friend in bedroom, has the ctx timer on laptop, friend is working it. Looks flushed but euphoric.

Ctx are all over the place time wise, history that i can see is 7mins, 4 mins, 3 mins, 2 mins, 6 mins, etc, very strong and lasting up to a min regularly. During ctx, M is being quite guttural and last one a bit pushy, so i suggest calling hosp.
Call hosp,M says she wants some g&a so we get ready to leave.

In between ctx, you wouldn't know M was in labour. I on the other hand am thinking baby is gonna arrive in the car at this point. Try to hurry everyone along, without causing undue alarm.

Get in car, M says she keeps wetting herself, I suggest waters have broken, M didn't think so.

T, bless him, makes wrong turn out of their street, (they really do only live about 5 streets away from hosp!!) this is really funny, M is laughing.
Now back on track. M hanging onto open sunroof, shouts, it's burning, i'm pushing. No, breathe lonnnngggg, i coach.

Entrance to hosp, M thinks she's pood, (sorry, tmi)Am thinking, great, baby is in birth canal, I know if M stands up for long, this child is gonna be born in the car park.
I give specific instructions for them not to get out of car, and sprint into entrance looking for a wheelchair. one chained up, i ask security guard if i can have it, he thinks about it, [haVEN'T GOT TIME TO STAND ABOUT THINKING EMOTICON!!!]

I dunno, he says it's for the old people. I tell him, (firmly), my very pregnany lady is sitting in her car, pushing, I need the chair.

Gets chair.[smug]

Get M into chair, I am 5ft 5, and M is a big lady, and about to give birth. T takes car to park, I push as fast as i can, round a hospital i have never visited before, to delivery.

Get into room, amid much bumping into doorways, with unmanouverable bloody chair that does not have swivel wheels!!!! This is slightly farcial at this point. grin

Manage to get M out of chair, but she doesn't make it onto bed, is leaning over bed on the floor,m yelling for pain relief, 1st mw trying to manouver (sp) under her legs to see what is what, manage to get trousers off, 2nd mw suddenly realises and offers M g&a, almost gets her arm ripped off as M grabs mouthpiece. I am leaning across bed, trying to keep M calm, and reasurring her that she is about to meet her baby, and WHERE THE BLOODY HELL IS t!!!!!(the latter to self)

T walks into room, just in time to see baby L breathed into the world with a couple of wiffs of g&a.

FANTASTIC

What a result, they had a really traumatic time with no.1 , and so wanted natural birth with little intervention, well, safely say, they achieved that. lol

Waters had indeed, gone earlier, and took a bit of time to get some membranes left behind, mw were very hands off though, no rush, no pressure to have synto and vit, K. Baby was so calm, and peaceful. She has a little tongue tie, but my last client had this too so am up to date. Fed beautifully on both sides,Mum was up and bathed and i was home by midnight.

I am sooo pleased for them, lovely couple.

Thanks for your halp ladies, don't you just love a happy ending.

incidentally, 2nd mw, when introduced to me as the doula, said, "that's nice" hmm some people are funny aren't they?

Have a good day everyone. x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By BabiesEverywhere on Thu 15-May-08 08:48:56
Aw, this story made me cry. How pleased I am for that lady to have a much better second birth
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By largeginandtonic on Thu 15-May-08 08:56:46
grin That has just made my day! You did a fab job and she must be so pleased with herself. Clever, clever lady.

<< sighs wistfully >>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain on Thu 15-May-08 09:15:38
Awwwww good stuff all round

Well done you!!! Oh and mum I suppose!! wink

Didn't she do well?!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By vbacqueen1 on Thu 15-May-08 10:52:29
aww that's brilliant! Sometimes you just KNOW it's going to happen quickly don't you? Thank God you went over when you did as it sounds like she'd never have left for the hospital! She can have the next one at home grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Pidge on Thu 15-May-08 11:10:43
What a fabulous fabulous story (shouldn't be reading this, as am at work, but spotted this thread yesterday and can't resist a good birth story!!!).

Congrats all round.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By VictorianSqualor on Thu 15-May-08 11:27:18
Awesome, what a great story.
And well done you!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cheerfulvicky on Thu 15-May-08 13:13:16
Nice work! And a lovely story Congrats to them - and to you on some great doula-ing
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Lulumama on Thu 15-May-08 14:36:01
she'll have to have the next one at home, we need an online commentary grin welcome to the new baby ! glad she got the intervention free birth she wanted . lovely smile
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Thu 15-May-08 17:41:32
I am planning on having my next one at home so will involve everyone,

cakes more than welcome. smile
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ButterflyMcQueen on Thu 15-May-08 17:48:57
sob - how lovely

(nervous emotion) very well recounted liahgen but after that are you sure you still want to go for no 6?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By quint on Thu 15-May-08 17:56:44
Thats fab - I've never really read one of the labour posts before, will make sure I do in future - brought back so many happy memories (though of course at the time I wasn;t happy!).
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Thu 15-May-08 18:01:49
absolutely butterfly. Since training to become a doula, i have realised just how much difference could have been made to my own experiences. Obviously that is not the only reason we are ttc no. 6 smile

Incidentally dh will not be attending next birth, by our mutual choice, so just mumsnet and my doula then. grin
We have just done an article for next months Practical Parenting about fathers at the birth, and dh hopes he's not gonna get slated for not attending.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ButterflyMcQueen on Thu 15-May-08 18:08:08
dh does annoy me quite a lot at the birth

at the borth the mw said to me during transition' tell me what you want' and i said 'tell dp to stop talking to me'

but i would be nervous without him

dreading this tbh......
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ButterflyMcQueen on Thu 15-May-08 18:09:06
?

'at the birth of dc 4' that should read!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Thu 15-May-08 18:09:56
are you expecting now butterfly?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ButterflyMcQueen on Thu 15-May-08 18:17:39
yes dc6!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ShowOfHands on Thu 15-May-08 18:19:15
I'm welling up. How lovely. Sounds like a very healing experience after a previous traumatic delivery.

LG&T's my doula at the next one (succesful homebirth I hope). grin

Almost makes me want to have another sooner rather than later. Almost. Not quite.

<<crosses legs>>
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Thu 15-May-08 18:20:42
grin

ahh, suddenly question becomes clear. When are you due?

I can't wait, don't think my bfp will be any time soon as no periods, still bf one year old. (yeah yeah I know not completely but stands true for us, still bf, no pg) sad

how old are your dc's?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ButterflyMcQueen on Thu 15-May-08 18:42:46
early july...

dreading it

had first epidural last delivery as i have developed such a fear!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By liahgen on Thu 15-May-08 19:24:50
what has happened to make you feel this way, (doula hat on now, feel free to tell me to mind my own business.)


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